| Will it stop Liverpool? 15:11 - Feb 25 with 5257 views | dirk_doone |
Harvard University epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch is predicting the coronavirus "will ultimately not be containable" and, within a year, will infect somewhere between 40 and 70 percent of the world's population.
If he is right, it's certainly possible that all major sporting events will be cancelled although matches could still possibly be played in empty stadiums, which is what they are going to do in Italy. |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 15:46 - Feb 25 with 2834 views | PatfromPoole |
Must admit, I am beginning to worry about the Euros this summer, for which I have tickets for every England game (assuming we win the Group in June, which is looking a bit dicey given the growing injury list.....) |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 17:04 - Feb 25 with 2791 views | dirk_doone |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 15:46 - Feb 25 by PatfromPoole |
Must admit, I am beginning to worry about the Euros this summer, for which I have tickets for every England game (assuming we win the Group in June, which is looking a bit dicey given the growing injury list.....) |
It's reached 40 countries so far and it now looks likely to spread to every corner of the earth. It will only require one country to fail to contain it for it to spread rapidly to millions of people. Then any event where crowds could gather would be cancelled. The next couple of weeks are critical because the window to prevent such a pandemic will soon close.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/51631954 [Post edited 25 Feb 2020 18:24]
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:38 - Feb 25 with 2723 views | washington_saint |
I think some perspective is required here instead of the mass hysteria in the media, etc.
Here's some stats for you:
14,000 deaths and 250,000 hospitalized.......that is just the US for the winter 19/20 to date for regular flu. |  | | |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:44 - Feb 25 with 2716 views | Heisenberg |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:38 - Feb 25 by washington_saint |
I think some perspective is required here instead of the mass hysteria in the media, etc.
Here's some stats for you:
14,000 deaths and 250,000 hospitalized.......that is just the US for the winter 19/20 to date for regular flu. |
The issue isn't about the number of deaths. This virus is a new strand that no one yet understands how contagious it is, how treatable it is and if it mutates whether existing medicines can respond to it. It's of extreme concern. |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 21:37 - Feb 25 with 2628 views | dirk_doone |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:38 - Feb 25 by washington_saint |
I think some perspective is required here instead of the mass hysteria in the media, etc.
Here's some stats for you:
14,000 deaths and 250,000 hospitalized.......that is just the US for the winter 19/20 to date for regular flu. |
Like me, you are obviously not a trained epidemiologist.
Laymen may refer to 'regular flu' but there are in fact more than 300 flu viruses, which have evolved throughout the history of mankind, responsible for those deaths. The epidemiologists at both Harvard and Yale are talking about just one new one, COVID-19, which they say may result in a pandemic. So, divide your numbers by 300 and you will have some perspective.
So far, I'd say there has been little in the way of 'mass hysteria" from the UK media. They have been remarkably sanguine about it all. I guess it must be different over there in the US.
The cancellation of sporting events is merely a statement of fact as it's already post eventum and discussions as to whether more events will be cancelled are already under way.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/world/europe/coronavirus-soccer.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-51668572
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/51631954 [Post edited 28 Feb 2020 3:52]
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 23:16 - Feb 25 with 2526 views | this_charming_man |
Pardon my ignorance but isn’t it just another version of a cold? | |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 23:26 - Feb 25 with 2517 views | dirk_doone |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 23:16 - Feb 25 by this_charming_man |
Pardon my ignorance but isn’t it just another version of a cold? |
No. Colds are another set of viruses, which can also cause respiratory illnesses. There are just 200 of them and they are far less dangerous than the 300 flu viruses.
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 06:43 - Feb 26 with 2395 views | Marcus_y |
Coronavirus was caused by the launch of 5G in Wuhan. Read up on it and you will see the symptoms are exactly what people were warning of hen 5G was launched. Respiratory, fever. 5G tinkers with the construction of Oxygen molecule and thus creates issues with breathing. |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 06:50 - Feb 26 with 2386 views | Kennington |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 21:37 - Feb 25 by dirk_doone |
Like me, you are obviously not a trained epidemiologist.
Laymen may refer to 'regular flu' but there are in fact more than 300 flu viruses, which have evolved throughout the history of mankind, responsible for those deaths. The epidemiologists at both Harvard and Yale are talking about just one new one, COVID-19, which they say may result in a pandemic. So, divide your numbers by 300 and you will have some perspective.
So far, I'd say there has been little in the way of 'mass hysteria" from the UK media. They have been remarkably sanguine about it all. I guess it must be different over there in the US.
The cancellation of sporting events is merely a statement of fact as it's already post eventum and discussions as to whether more events will be cancelled are already under way.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/world/europe/coronavirus-soccer.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-51668572
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/51631954 [Post edited 28 Feb 2020 3:52]
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I’ve studied public health to masters level, and I’d say you’re spot on. I’m particularly worried from a completely selfish perspective that the London Marathon will be cancelled in April. April feels a long time away for London not to have more cases. | |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 15:03 - Feb 26 with 2298 views | Waylander |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 06:43 - Feb 26 by Marcus_y |
Coronavirus was caused by the launch of 5G in Wuhan. Read up on it and you will see the symptoms are exactly what people were warning of hen 5G was launched. Respiratory, fever. 5G tinkers with the construction of Oxygen molecule and thus creates issues with breathing. |
"5G tinkers with the construction of the oxygen molecule"
Utter nonsense. | | | |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:00 - Feb 26 with 2248 views | darthvader |
Ironically im currently suffering from the worst flu ive had in a long old time ive been to work today but i wish i hadnt , i worked in the fresh air and alone so no chance of spreding it ,( before i get shouted at ). Though had to come home early.
In bed now . Im hopeing to be over it soon but its getting worse .
Im not fishing for " u ok huns " or shït like that i know this aint freakbook .
However if anyone has any advice as to how i would know the difference between corona and flu symptoms id appreciate it . As atm from what ive heard it pretty much the same .
The only difference is the shortness of breath or dificulty breathing i dont have that thankfully .
Lets just say a bit of tummy trouble is also a bit of a complication .
I havent been travelling around the globe or come into contact with anyone who has .
I did go to the circus last week though . A few eastern europeans performing but i never touched any of them .
Any advice by our resident medical experts id appreciate it cheers
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:31 - Feb 26 with 2214 views | TheMoog |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:00 - Feb 26 by darthvader |
Ironically im currently suffering from the worst flu ive had in a long old time ive been to work today but i wish i hadnt , i worked in the fresh air and alone so no chance of spreding it ,( before i get shouted at ). Though had to come home early.
In bed now . Im hopeing to be over it soon but its getting worse .
Im not fishing for " u ok huns " or shït like that i know this aint freakbook .
However if anyone has any advice as to how i would know the difference between corona and flu symptoms id appreciate it . As atm from what ive heard it pretty much the same .
The only difference is the shortness of breath or dificulty breathing i dont have that thankfully .
Lets just say a bit of tummy trouble is also a bit of a complication .
I havent been travelling around the globe or come into contact with anyone who has .
I did go to the circus last week though . A few eastern europeans performing but i never touched any of them .
Any advice by our resident medical experts id appreciate it cheers
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Doesn't seem like you have either. |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:52 - Feb 26 with 2202 views | Heisenberg |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 19:00 - Feb 26 by darthvader |
Ironically im currently suffering from the worst flu ive had in a long old time ive been to work today but i wish i hadnt , i worked in the fresh air and alone so no chance of spreding it ,( before i get shouted at ). Though had to come home early.
In bed now . Im hopeing to be over it soon but its getting worse .
Im not fishing for " u ok huns " or shït like that i know this aint freakbook .
However if anyone has any advice as to how i would know the difference between corona and flu symptoms id appreciate it . As atm from what ive heard it pretty much the same .
The only difference is the shortness of breath or dificulty breathing i dont have that thankfully .
Lets just say a bit of tummy trouble is also a bit of a complication .
I havent been travelling around the globe or come into contact with anyone who has .
I did go to the circus last week though . A few eastern europeans performing but i never touched any of them .
Any advice by our resident medical experts id appreciate it cheers
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There wasn’t a clown from the Far East at the circus was there ?
Hope you feel better. I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about. | |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 20:03 - Feb 26 with 2184 views | Occasional_Showers |
It only kills 1% of those who contract it. No worse than influenza. |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 21:14 - Feb 26 with 2143 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 17:04 - Feb 25 by dirk_doone |
It's reached 40 countries so far and it now looks likely to spread to every corner of the earth. It will only require one country to fail to contain it for it to spread rapidly to millions of people. Then any event where crowds could gather would be cancelled. The next couple of weeks are critical because the window to prevent such a pandemic will soon close.
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Saint22 would be the nightmare super spreader. | |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 22:11 - Feb 26 with 2117 views | Bison |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 20:03 - Feb 26 by Occasional_Showers |
It only kills 1% of those who contract it. No worse than influenza. |
I am currently within 500 yards of at least 2. corona victims as in Sheffield near the Hallamshire hospital. Speaking to a Chinese guy today and the real death rate out there is 4% he reckons and they under stating by a factor of 10 the actual infections.
If you have just read this post go wash your hands as I just sneezed on the screen. |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 04:15 - Feb 27 with 2057 views | dirk_doone |
Viruses can stay with you until you die. Some, your body can keep under control; others it can't. Herpes and HIV are examples of viruses the body struggles to contain.
Japanese woman tests positive for coronavirus again
A Japanese woman who was treated for coronavirus and then recovered has now tested positive again, say local media reports quoting government officials.
The woman is reportedly a tour guide in her 40s, from the city of Osaka.
She first tested positive in late January but was discharged from hospital after recovering on 1 February. She later developed a sore throat and chest pains and then tested positive again.
This is the first case in Japan where a patient has tested positive after being discharged.
However, there have been reports of patients in China testing positive again. [Post edited 27 Feb 2020 9:20]
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 05:01 - Feb 27 with 2025 views | Marcus_y |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 15:03 - Feb 26 by Waylander |
"5G tinkers with the construction of the oxygen molecule"
Utter nonsense. |
I could post several links, but will let you learn for yourself. Clue: 60 GHz is the frequency at which oxygen molecules oscillate | |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 07:08 - Feb 27 with 1994 views | BuenosSaint |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 05:01 - Feb 27 by Marcus_y |
I could post several links, but will let you learn for yourself. Clue: 60 GHz is the frequency at which oxygen molecules oscillate |
I'm with you on this. A lot of research on health / WiFi has been suppressed and won't get funded. | |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 07:38 - Feb 27 with 1969 views | Kennington |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 04:15 - Feb 27 by dirk_doone |
Viruses can stay with you until you die. Some, your body can keep under control; others it can't. Herpes and HIV are examples of viruses the body struggles to contain.
Japanese woman tests positive for coronavirus again
A Japanese woman who was treated for coronavirus and then recovered has now tested positive again, say local media reports quoting government officials.
The woman is reportedly a tour guide in her 40s, from the city of Osaka.
She first tested positive in late January but was discharged from hospital after recovering on 1 February. She later developed a sore throat and chest pains and then tested positive again.
This is the first case in Japan where a patient has tested positive after being discharged.
However, there have been reports of patients in China testing positive again. [Post edited 27 Feb 2020 9:20]
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Not true, most viruses can be cleared by a healthy immune system and will leave no trace. HIV however can only be suppressed. Herpes can be treated so you’re right there’s isn’t a cure for that either. But both are extreme examples and misleading in the wider discussion on how the body and medicine cures viruses. The most common virus people get is a cold. Another example is the chicken pox virus that after having it once will more often than not make the person immune to it, as the body has developed its own antibodies.
I don’t really understand your second point other than it probably shows a lack of sensitivity in the actual tests. [Post edited 27 Feb 2020 8:00]
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 07:55 - Feb 27 with 1956 views | saint22 |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 21:14 - Feb 26 by Occasional_Showers |
Saint22 would be the nightmare super spreader. |
Whereas you alone in your bedsit will self contain | | | |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 08:00 - Feb 27 with 1947 views | Heisenberg |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 05:01 - Feb 27 by Marcus_y |
I could post several links, but will let you learn for yourself. Clue: 60 GHz is the frequency at which oxygen molecules oscillate |
I could post several links confirming that 9/11 was an inside job, Elvis lives and there were 75,000 at Fratton Park last week. Doesn't mean they are true though. Conspiracy theory nonsense. | |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 08:00 - Feb 27 with 1947 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 20:03 - Feb 26 by Occasional_Showers |
It only kills 1% of those who contract it. No worse than influenza. |
Yes it is; I get a flu jab every year to not get the most common strains of flu. I do that (for free) as I have bronchiectasis and am high risk. A lung virus with no vaccine (yet) is a nightmare for people like me. |  |
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| Will it stop Liverpool? on 08:21 - Feb 27 with 1929 views | Waylander |
| Will it stop Liverpool? on 05:01 - Feb 27 by Marcus_y |
I could post several links, but will let you learn for yourself. Clue: 60 GHz is the frequency at which oxygen molecules oscillate |
Don't bullshit this group with your fake science. I have a PhD in Chemistry and know far more about oxygen molecules than you do | | | |
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