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Tough read 12:04 - Apr 19 with 14108 viewssaint22

This tells you how mistakes have cost lives and futures

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/how-did-britain-get-its-response-t
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Tough read on 19:44 - Apr 24 with 603 viewsDellHero_Would

Tough read on 19:15 - Apr 24 by Sadoldgit

Here we go again. You said I was obsessed with this but yet again you bring the subject up. I will say thus again as someone who worked for the CPS for many years. The CPS were right to bring the case for trial. They have a duty of care to the victim, not to the defendant. If the defendant was not mentally fit enough to stand trial it is down to her defence team to seek an adjournment, not the CPS. What is your problem with this? It really isn’t very difficult to understand.

By the way, her previous boyfriend, Danny Sipriani, has subsequently said that she told him that she was going to plead guilty.

Can you imagine the outcry if the CPS had dropped the case. Women are just as capable of committing domestic violence as men. Just to remind you, the victim phoned the police and said that she was trying to kill him. She had to be restrained by the police when they arrived at the scene.

Maybe, at some point, you will get it?


Your an embarrassment Pal!...Time to give it rest.

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Tough read on 19:57 - Apr 24 with 579 viewsOccasional_Showers

Tough read on 19:15 - Apr 24 by Sadoldgit

Here we go again. You said I was obsessed with this but yet again you bring the subject up. I will say thus again as someone who worked for the CPS for many years. The CPS were right to bring the case for trial. They have a duty of care to the victim, not to the defendant. If the defendant was not mentally fit enough to stand trial it is down to her defence team to seek an adjournment, not the CPS. What is your problem with this? It really isn’t very difficult to understand.

By the way, her previous boyfriend, Danny Sipriani, has subsequently said that she told him that she was going to plead guilty.

Can you imagine the outcry if the CPS had dropped the case. Women are just as capable of committing domestic violence as men. Just to remind you, the victim phoned the police and said that she was trying to kill him. She had to be restrained by the police when they arrived at the scene.

Maybe, at some point, you will get it?


I get that you have strange opinions about things. I think you should let it go and move on.

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Tough read on 20:58 - Apr 24 with 554 viewsthis_charming_man

Tough read on 19:07 - Apr 24 by Sadoldgit

So where did TCM dig you up from?

I did not embarrass myself. Get your facts right. Ched Evans was found guilty of rape. Many attempts at appeal were turned down. He eventually did get an appeal. His financees family put up a large sum of money for “new evidence”. The CPS believed that the family coached the new witnesses (that had nothing to do with the original rape) and that the new evidence should not be admitted. They also made the point that the victims previous sexual history should not be included in the case. The judge did not agree. The new evidence was allowed and Evans won his appeal. The victim cannot consent to sex if he/she is incapacitated by drink or drugs. The CPS demonstrated the the victim was indeed incapacitated by drink, therefore unable to consent to sex. In the view of the prosecution, Evans committed rape.

Geoffrey Boycott was convicted for domestic violence. I did not say he was innocent. From the evidence published it was his word against hers. A family member said that she told her that the victim had fallen. Boycott said the victim had fallen. The bruising shown on the evidence didn’t look to me like it was the result of a pummelling with a fist as described. I wondered why the judge found him guilty on the evidence I had seen and if they was any other evidence that might have made the case stronger. I did not say he was innocent.

So wrong on both counts. Do your own dirty work TCM. Or if you are going to get someone to do your dirt work for you, make sure that they get their facts right.


Calm down pal, he’s nothing to do with me! You’ve been vocal on mongboarda the last few years using the same user name and believe it or not some people post on more than one! It’s not my Fault some one else didn’t agree with you

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Tough read on 21:03 - Apr 24 with 547 viewsSadoldgit

Tough read on 19:44 - Apr 24 by DellHero_Would

Your an embarrassment Pal!...Time to give it rest.


Why?
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Tough read on 21:05 - Apr 24 with 544 viewsSadoldgit

Tough read on 19:36 - Apr 24 by this_charming_man

It’s a catalogue of embarrassment isn’t it soggy


What is embarrassing about this post?
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Tough read on 21:09 - Apr 24 with 540 viewsSadoldgit

Tough read on 19:57 - Apr 24 by Occasional_Showers

I get that you have strange opinions about things. I think you should let it go and move on.


This is not a strange opinion. It is how the Criminal Justice System works.
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Tough read on 21:12 - Apr 24 with 537 viewsSadoldgit

Back on topic. It appears that Donald Trump has found the solution. Either inject or inject disinfectant.
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Tough read on 21:25 - Apr 24 with 524 viewsOccasional_Showers

Tough read on 21:09 - Apr 24 by Sadoldgit

This is not a strange opinion. It is how the Criminal Justice System works.


It has been demonstrated on this thread that you have form when it comes to taking views that are a bit odd.

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Tough read on 21:30 - Apr 24 with 519 viewsgrumpy

Tough read on 21:25 - Apr 24 by Occasional_Showers

It has been demonstrated on this thread that you have form when it comes to taking views that are a bit odd.


What! Like yours on Trump?
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Tough read on 21:49 - Apr 24 with 503 viewsthis_charming_man

Tough read on 21:05 - Apr 24 by Sadoldgit

What is embarrassing about this post?


Apart from the fact you’re still yet to answer my question on hamas other people have shown you have shall we call them unusual views.

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Tough read on 08:43 - Apr 25 with 396 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 21:49 - Apr 24 by this_charming_man

Apart from the fact you’re still yet to answer my question on hamas other people have shown you have shall we call them unusual views.


I think Grumpy answered your point quite well

Why wouldn't Hamas and Hezbollah be anti Jewish,they have lost so much of their territory
and lives to them.
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Tough read on 08:45 - Apr 25 with 391 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 21:25 - Apr 24 by Occasional_Showers

It has been demonstrated on this thread that you have form when it comes to taking views that are a bit odd.


When were the Labour Party found to be institutionally racist?
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Tough read on 08:47 - Apr 25 with 385 viewsJaySaint

Tough read on 08:45 - Apr 25 by huelinsaint

When were the Labour Party found to be institutionally racist?


Not my words, but........

Labour has become an institutionally racist organisation through its failure to deal with antisemitism

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Tough read on 08:53 - Apr 25 with 373 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 08:47 - Apr 25 by JaySaint

Not my words, but........

Labour has become an institutionally racist organisation through its failure to deal with antisemitism


Whose words?
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Tough read on 08:59 - Apr 25 with 357 viewsOccasional_Showers

Tough read on 08:47 - Apr 25 by JaySaint

Not my words, but........

Labour has become an institutionally racist organisation through its failure to deal with antisemitism


It’s no surprise when you have a party controlled by far left fanatics.

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Tough read on 09:02 - Apr 25 with 348 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 08:59 - Apr 25 by Occasional_Showers

It’s no surprise when you have a party controlled by far left fanatics.


When were the Labour Party found to be institutionally racist?
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Tough read on 09:03 - Apr 25 with 343 viewsOccasional_Showers

Tough read on 09:02 - Apr 25 by huelinsaint

When were the Labour Party found to be institutionally racist?


Who said racist?

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Tough read on 09:06 - Apr 25 with 344 viewsDorsetIan

Tough read on 21:49 - Apr 24 by this_charming_man

Apart from the fact you’re still yet to answer my question on hamas other people have shown you have shall we call them unusual views.


Sadoldgit posts measured pieces with views that you personally might disagree with but which are views you could hear across Britain, read in the newspapers or watch on the TV or radio any day of the week. But you pile into him and call his views ‚unusual‘.

Occassional Showers on the other hand posts deliberately extremist twaddle which would not be allowed on any mainstream British media, and yet you never say a word. And your justification is that ‚everyone piles into Dune‘ and that this forum should be a place for many viewpoints.

I say that you are a little selective in your defence of the underdog and your championing of free speech.

Truth of the matter is that your views are more aligned with your nutty friend than you are able to admit. Say what you like about sadoldgit but he has the courage of his convictions and is not pretending to be something he’s not.

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Tough read on 09:13 - Apr 25 with 340 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 09:03 - Apr 25 by Occasional_Showers

Who said racist?


Labour has been found be institutionally anti Semitic. That means institutionally Jew hating.

Why do you not accept the findings?© Dune

If you're anti semitic ,you're racist. You're just playing with semantics now.
Now can you back up the statement above please
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Tough read on 09:23 - Apr 25 with 333 viewsRon11

Tough read on 09:02 - Apr 21 by Sadoldgit

It is reported that the government are gently trying to persuaded doctors and coroners not to put Covid-19 on death certificates. Surely the “People’s Government” aren’t trying to massage the mortality figures?


I voted Tory because I thought Corbyn and his far left ideology will never work in this country, and I still believe that. With Starmer now leading them, socialist rather than marxist policies my return. But the bloke is already looking over his shoulder.
However, the levels of incompetence and arrogance displayed by this current government are breathtaking.
There will be a reckoning when this is over. If it's ever going to be over.
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Tough read on 09:26 - Apr 25 with 329 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 09:23 - Apr 25 by Ron11

I voted Tory because I thought Corbyn and his far left ideology will never work in this country, and I still believe that. With Starmer now leading them, socialist rather than marxist policies my return. But the bloke is already looking over his shoulder.
However, the levels of incompetence and arrogance displayed by this current government are breathtaking.
There will be a reckoning when this is over. If it's ever going to be over.


If you think Starmer is a socialist,you're in for a shock.He's a centrist which means tweaking around at the edges but not actually changing much.
Corbyn's Labour wasn't far left, it's policies were very much Nordic Social Democratic
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Tough read on 09:28 - Apr 25 with 323 viewsSadoldgit

According to newspaper reports, Dominic Cummings has been attending meetings of the Government’s independent advisery body, SAGE. Not so independent then.
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Tough read on 09:29 - Apr 25 with 323 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 09:23 - Apr 25 by Ron11

I voted Tory because I thought Corbyn and his far left ideology will never work in this country, and I still believe that. With Starmer now leading them, socialist rather than marxist policies my return. But the bloke is already looking over his shoulder.
However, the levels of incompetence and arrogance displayed by this current government are breathtaking.
There will be a reckoning when this is over. If it's ever going to be over.


So knowing that this Conservative government was led by shysters, liars and charlatans, you still voted for them,i just can't get my head round why someone who says they vote labour would ever vote for these fraudsters.
Which piece of the Labour manifesto was Marxist?
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Tough read on 09:30 - Apr 25 with 319 viewsOccasional_Showers

Tough read on 09:23 - Apr 25 by Ron11

I voted Tory because I thought Corbyn and his far left ideology will never work in this country, and I still believe that. With Starmer now leading them, socialist rather than marxist policies my return. But the bloke is already looking over his shoulder.
However, the levels of incompetence and arrogance displayed by this current government are breathtaking.
There will be a reckoning when this is over. If it's ever going to be over.


Labour is still very much an extreme far left party. The membership dictates this. It will be a very long time before they can be trusted to run the country again.

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Tough read on 09:32 - Apr 25 with 317 viewshuelinsaint

Tough read on 09:30 - Apr 25 by Occasional_Showers

Labour is still very much an extreme far left party. The membership dictates this. It will be a very long time before they can be trusted to run the country again.


Labour has been found be institutionally anti Semitic. That means institutionally Jew hating.

Why do you not accept the findings?© Dune

If you're anti semitic ,you're racist. You're just playing with semantics now.
Now can you back up the statement above please
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