| Harry McGuire. 20:44 - Oct 14 with 2919 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
Reminds me so much of an expensive Paul Butler.
Whilst we continue to play him in the England team we will win nothing! |  |
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| Harry McGuire. on 20:48 - Oct 14 with 2901 views | SuddenLad |
The lad needs a rest. Didn't deserve a red card, but when things are going against you, the sh!t keeps coming.
I hope the media don't increase his agony. |  |
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| Harry McGuire. on 21:07 - Oct 14 with 2833 views | boromat |
| Harry McGuire. on 20:48 - Oct 14 by SuddenLad |
The lad needs a rest. Didn't deserve a red card, but when things are going against you, the sh!t keeps coming.
I hope the media don't increase his agony. |
Agree. In hindsight probably should have been left out of the England squad again this time. Or in the squad but left out of the team. |  |
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| Harry McGuire. on 05:09 - Oct 15 with 2657 views | Sandyman |
Whatever the media circumstances, plain to see McGuire isn't good enough for England. Paul Butler at his best game would be much better for the national side. |  | | |
| Harry McGuire. on 08:12 - Oct 15 with 2579 views | judd |
| Harry McGuire. on 05:09 - Oct 15 by Sandyman |
Whatever the media circumstances, plain to see McGuire isn't good enough for England. Paul Butler at his best game would be much better for the national side. |
Yes, he is not good enough for England. He is Manu standard. |  |
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| Harry McGuire. on 08:15 - Oct 15 with 2573 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Harry McGuire. on 20:48 - Oct 14 by SuddenLad |
The lad needs a rest. Didn't deserve a red card, but when things are going against you, the sh!t keeps coming.
I hope the media don't increase his agony. |
Could have been straight red for the first one |  |
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| Harry McGuire. on 10:04 - Oct 15 with 2421 views | D_Alien |
Talk about kick a man when he's down
(Yeah, yeah, he did some kicking last night)
Maguire was plenty good enough when we made the World Cup semis, and has shown outstanding form for much of the time since
We all know what's causing his current fall from that place; seeking to defend his sister from attack in a foreign land
Have a go if you must, he's an easy target right now
Would I have picked him last night? No. But I hope he can recover from this and restore his form in due course
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| Harry McGuire. on 10:10 - Oct 15 with 2405 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Harry McGuire. on 20:48 - Oct 14 by SuddenLad |
The lad needs a rest. Didn't deserve a red card, but when things are going against you, the sh!t keeps coming.
I hope the media don't increase his agony. |
I disagree, it was awful defending and as RR said he could have gone for the first one.
Media and personal life aside, I’m always surprised at how immobile and slow he can be. He’s similar to Eric Dier at Spurs. Big and clunky. I’m not sure that you can be that slow and be at the top of the modern game anymore. [Post edited 15 Oct 2020 10:58]
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| Harry McGuire. on 10:21 - Oct 15 with 2390 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Harry McGuire. on 10:04 - Oct 15 by D_Alien |
Talk about kick a man when he's down
(Yeah, yeah, he did some kicking last night)
Maguire was plenty good enough when we made the World Cup semis, and has shown outstanding form for much of the time since
We all know what's causing his current fall from that place; seeking to defend his sister from attack in a foreign land
Have a go if you must, he's an easy target right now
Would I have picked him last night? No. But I hope he can recover from this and restore his form in due course
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As much as I enjoyed England’s trip to the semis a few years back, a bit of perspective is required. We didn’t play what you would call a ‘good’ team until we got to the semis and when we did the usual failings came flooding back.
As most United fans would testify, he’s done ok but I’m not sure he’s been outstanding. | |
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| Harry McGuire. on 10:25 - Oct 15 with 2380 views | fitzochris |
| Harry McGuire. on 10:21 - Oct 15 by BigDaveMyCock |
As much as I enjoyed England’s trip to the semis a few years back, a bit of perspective is required. We didn’t play what you would call a ‘good’ team until we got to the semis and when we did the usual failings came flooding back.
As most United fans would testify, he’s done ok but I’m not sure he’s been outstanding. |
Actually, we did - we met Belgium in the group stages and duly lost! [Post edited 15 Oct 2020 10:26]
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| Harry McGuire. on 10:51 - Oct 15 with 2337 views | Hopwoodblue |
As it always seems when shove comes to push every manager seems to freeze when it comes to putting so called flare players on the pitch. Denmark were well organised defensively in both games.They were never going to play an attacking game but we need to field players who will cause teams problems. I know we had players missing last night but the likes of Grealish running at their defence would have been the last thing they wanted. It would have created space and drawn fouls which would have created opportunities for us. I would have also started both Calvert Lewin and Kane and got balls into them. Also the fact that we cannot seem to find a someone good enough who’s left sided amazes me you would think we could find three or four that could do a job even if it’s not on a regular basis. If have to say it was disappointing last night even before the sending off.
I think the team selection caused that. |  |
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| Harry McGuire. on 10:57 - Oct 15 with 2330 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| Harry McGuire. on 10:25 - Oct 15 by fitzochris |
Actually, we did - we met Belgium in the group stages and duly lost! [Post edited 15 Oct 2020 10:26]
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I remember now, and those same failings returned. Again, just not good enough against better (or even on par) opposition. | |
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| Harry McGuire. on 11:20 - Oct 15 with 2291 views | nordenblue |
| Harry McGuire. on 10:51 - Oct 15 by Hopwoodblue |
As it always seems when shove comes to push every manager seems to freeze when it comes to putting so called flare players on the pitch. Denmark were well organised defensively in both games.They were never going to play an attacking game but we need to field players who will cause teams problems. I know we had players missing last night but the likes of Grealish running at their defence would have been the last thing they wanted. It would have created space and drawn fouls which would have created opportunities for us. I would have also started both Calvert Lewin and Kane and got balls into them. Also the fact that we cannot seem to find a someone good enough who’s left sided amazes me you would think we could find three or four that could do a job even if it’s not on a regular basis. If have to say it was disappointing last night even before the sending off.
I think the team selection caused that. |
I don't get the sudden big love in for Grealish,yes he's got talent without doubt,I just think from a formation point of view he is sometimes too much of a flair player,regularly holds on to the ball far too long also for my liking. [Post edited 15 Oct 2020 12:13]
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| Harry McGuire. on 11:27 - Oct 15 with 2278 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Harry McGuire. on 10:04 - Oct 15 by D_Alien |
Talk about kick a man when he's down
(Yeah, yeah, he did some kicking last night)
Maguire was plenty good enough when we made the World Cup semis, and has shown outstanding form for much of the time since
We all know what's causing his current fall from that place; seeking to defend his sister from attack in a foreign land
Have a go if you must, he's an easy target right now
Would I have picked him last night? No. But I hope he can recover from this and restore his form in due course
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I agree about the media pundits attacking him, it’s just bullying, and will no doubt be affecting his mental health. He hasn’t just become a bad player, but we don’t know the full story about what happened in Greece , the sister claims seem a bit dodgy to me. He does need resting for a bit, for his own well being | |
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| Harry McGuire. on 12:05 - Oct 15 with 2204 views | D_Alien |
| Harry McGuire. on 10:21 - Oct 15 by BigDaveMyCock |
As much as I enjoyed England’s trip to the semis a few years back, a bit of perspective is required. We didn’t play what you would call a ‘good’ team until we got to the semis and when we did the usual failings came flooding back.
As most United fans would testify, he’s done ok but I’m not sure he’s been outstanding. |
I get your point about who we played, but my post wasn't lacking perspective
The media (and fans) love building players up and Maguire performed well; but they love knocking them down again even more, and some of the posts in this thread exemplify that | |
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| Harry McGuire. on 12:21 - Oct 15 with 2161 views | AtThePeake |
| Harry McGuire. on 11:20 - Oct 15 by nordenblue |
I don't get the sudden big love in for Grealish,yes he's got talent without doubt,I just think from a formation point of view he is sometimes too much of a flair player,regularly holds on to the ball far too long also for my liking. [Post edited 15 Oct 2020 12:13]
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I find it remarkable that Southgate spoke for ages about England "not playing with a number 10" as justification for not including the likes of Maddison and Grealish in his squad - but then vs Wales he played Danny Ings wide right. If we are all of a sudden willing to play players out of positions, then surely Grealish and Maddison could have done a job on either side of a front three, given that they've both played there quite a few times for their clubs?
Didn't catch the game last night but the fact that Ainsley Maitland-Niles is good enough to start tells me that we are a long, long way from being one of the top international sides. |  |
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| Harry McGuire. on 15:43 - Oct 15 with 2003 views | Shun |
| Harry McGuire. on 10:04 - Oct 15 by D_Alien |
Talk about kick a man when he's down
(Yeah, yeah, he did some kicking last night)
Maguire was plenty good enough when we made the World Cup semis, and has shown outstanding form for much of the time since
We all know what's causing his current fall from that place; seeking to defend his sister from attack in a foreign land
Have a go if you must, he's an easy target right now
Would I have picked him last night? No. But I hope he can recover from this and restore his form in due course
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Agree there. He's a very good defender who's plainly drastically out of form at the moment. He improved both England's and United's defence no end when he was first introduced (United had the 3rd best defence last season, conceding only 3 more than the top defence - Liverpool).
It's clear what's affecting him is a mental problem rather than simply being out of form. Whether having your play affected so much by something like that qualifies him to be a top player is another debate. Nevertheless the idea that he's suddenly a poor defender is absurd.
He needs a rest. It won't happen though as he's the media's number one target and it's fun to laugh at his downfall. Apparently. |  | | |
| Harry McGuire. on 20:03 - Oct 15 with 1809 views | Thacks_Rabbits |
| Harry McGuire. on 15:43 - Oct 15 by Shun |
Agree there. He's a very good defender who's plainly drastically out of form at the moment. He improved both England's and United's defence no end when he was first introduced (United had the 3rd best defence last season, conceding only 3 more than the top defence - Liverpool).
It's clear what's affecting him is a mental problem rather than simply being out of form. Whether having your play affected so much by something like that qualifies him to be a top player is another debate. Nevertheless the idea that he's suddenly a poor defender is absurd.
He needs a rest. It won't happen though as he's the media's number one target and it's fun to laugh at his downfall. Apparently. |
A mental problem does not give you the turning speed of an oil tanker, which is generous to him. His apparent inability to read the game and his stupid mistakes and poor judgment you could put down to mental issues maybe.
He is a decent player but against any form of pace or flair he will get ripped apart, unless he has someone next to him able to cover his errors. At our level Reeves was amazing next to Butler, they just worked, Rio at his best would have been ideal.
If he has issues mentally then he needs resting, but he has to a point brought them on himself, even if you believe the paper stories which I don’t. If he can afford 60k plus on a bar bill he can afford adequate security, or just don’t go on holiday there, Ferguson would not have let him.
I hope Cody gets a real run as he looks the real deal, maybe Declan rice as well but not sure he is ready, but playing a very very bad version of Butcher/Adams/Terry won’t get us anywhere | |
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| Harry McGuire. on 05:00 - Oct 16 with 1631 views | DiddyDave |
Poor chap must have a lot on his mind,like how he`s going to spend his nine hundred grand a month. Must be worrying. | | | |
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