| Sheffield United 18:21 - May 27 with 4300 views | terryb |
For those of you with better knowledge than myself please. What is the view on The Blades appointing Slavisa Jokanovic as their manager/head coach?
I think Konk was a huge fan of his at Fulham, but is he likely to overcome the hangover of relegation in time for August? He certainly seems a better bet to me than the usual suspects that the media put forward. |  | | |  |
| Sheffield United on 18:50 - May 27 with 4177 views | davman |
The three of them coming down are all going to challenge next season; would not be at all surprised to see all three go straight back up. The Premier League finances are coming home to roost.
Hopefully I am wrong, but none of them seem to be in free fall - Sheff U possibly the worst of the three as they have been over-achieving for the last 4-5 years, but I'd still fancy them to finish top three... |  |
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| Sheffield United on 19:46 - May 27 with 4029 views | derbyhoop |
I'm not sure the 3 relegated sides will be as strong as some think. Of course, parachute payments give them a huge advantage, but it isn't the be all and end all.
Sheffield United may well have gone up 2 seasons ago on the back of it being Chris Wilder's home town club. They were v poor in the PL and Jokanovic will have a job to get rid of that losing mentality/
Fulham, as Konk implied, were over reliant on loanees. Cairney, if fit, is a class act. Mitrovic has proved in the past he can score goals at Championship level, without ever pulling up trees in the PL. Defensively, I'm not convinced.
WBA look the best bet, but not having a current manager will be a major hindrance. Can't see them keeping Pereira. Not sure of the rest of the squad other than 1 of our own at RB. |  |
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| Sheffield United on 21:46 - May 27 with 3731 views | tonyQPR |
Did jojo and joko’s paths cross at Fulham would be very concerned about our chances of signing jojo if the case 😔 | | | |
| Sheffield United on 22:01 - May 27 with 3682 views | daveB |
I think Sheff Utd will be strong, Fulham will probably be playoffs at least but thinK West Brom might struggle |  | | |
| Sheffield United on 22:01 - May 27 with 3683 views | karl |
| Sheffield United on 21:46 - May 27 by tonyQPR |
Did jojo and joko’s paths cross at Fulham would be very concerned about our chances of signing jojo if the case 😔 |
The BBC report had him down as a strong part of 3 central midfielders who were instrumental in getting them promoted. Boooo!
I can't find the page it was on just now. |  | | |
| Sheffield United on 22:13 - May 27 with 3657 views | Myke |
| Sheffield United on 19:46 - May 27 by derbyhoop |
I'm not sure the 3 relegated sides will be as strong as some think. Of course, parachute payments give them a huge advantage, but it isn't the be all and end all.
Sheffield United may well have gone up 2 seasons ago on the back of it being Chris Wilder's home town club. They were v poor in the PL and Jokanovic will have a job to get rid of that losing mentality/
Fulham, as Konk implied, were over reliant on loanees. Cairney, if fit, is a class act. Mitrovic has proved in the past he can score goals at Championship level, without ever pulling up trees in the PL. Defensively, I'm not convinced.
WBA look the best bet, but not having a current manager will be a major hindrance. Can't see them keeping Pereira. Not sure of the rest of the squad other than 1 of our own at RB. |
I am not sure the 'losing mentality' is such an important factor. Can't remember the exact figures. but Norwich lost their last 12 PL games or something like that, but it didn't affect them last season at all. Covid has widened the gap between the Prem and those below it and that will certainly be a factor next season. I would expect all three relegated clubs to be there or thereabouts (certainly all in the top six), just like this year. | | | |
| Sheffield United on 10:51 - May 28 with 3334 views | philc |
| Sheffield United on 19:46 - May 27 by derbyhoop |
I'm not sure the 3 relegated sides will be as strong as some think. Of course, parachute payments give them a huge advantage, but it isn't the be all and end all.
Sheffield United may well have gone up 2 seasons ago on the back of it being Chris Wilder's home town club. They were v poor in the PL and Jokanovic will have a job to get rid of that losing mentality/
Fulham, as Konk implied, were over reliant on loanees. Cairney, if fit, is a class act. Mitrovic has proved in the past he can score goals at Championship level, without ever pulling up trees in the PL. Defensively, I'm not convinced.
WBA look the best bet, but not having a current manager will be a major hindrance. Can't see them keeping Pereira. Not sure of the rest of the squad other than 1 of our own at RB. |
I saw this morning that West Brom have released 21 players, including Charlie of course, I don’t know if they are first team squad or not, but when you add in loans returning its a very high churn. I always think that a team has a better chance of a straight return if they hold their nerve and resist change if possible.
With new managers at both West Brom and Sheffield Utd it would appear that both teams could under go significant change in both coaching and squad this summer, which in my opinion reduces their chances of a top 2 finish. | | | |
| Sheffield United on 12:22 - May 28 with 3209 views | Northernr |
| Sheffield United on 18:50 - May 27 by davman |
The three of them coming down are all going to challenge next season; would not be at all surprised to see all three go straight back up. The Premier League finances are coming home to roost.
Hopefully I am wrong, but none of them seem to be in free fall - Sheff U possibly the worst of the three as they have been over-achieving for the last 4-5 years, but I'd still fancy them to finish top three... |
Be the first time ever if they do. This year was as close as we’ve ever come. |  | | |
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| Sheffield United on 12:33 - May 28 with 3160 views | daveB |
| Sheffield United on 21:46 - May 27 by tonyQPR |
Did jojo and joko’s paths cross at Fulham would be very concerned about our chances of signing jojo if the case 😔 |
pretty sure he was a regular under Jokanovic | | | |
| Sheffield United on 12:40 - May 28 with 3140 views | Northernr |
| Sheffield United on 21:46 - May 27 by tonyQPR |
Did jojo and joko’s paths cross at Fulham would be very concerned about our chances of signing jojo if the case 😔 |
V good point. Could test that “wants to stay in London” line. | | | |
| Sheffield United on 13:07 - May 28 with 3033 views | sprocket |
| Sheffield United on 12:40 - May 28 by Northernr |
V good point. Could test that “wants to stay in London” line. |
moving family would be an issue in such a scenario...hopefully. fingers crossed. | | | |
| Sheffield United on 13:09 - May 28 with 3015 views | PinnerPaul |
| Sheffield United on 22:13 - May 27 by Myke |
I am not sure the 'losing mentality' is such an important factor. Can't remember the exact figures. but Norwich lost their last 12 PL games or something like that, but it didn't affect them last season at all. Covid has widened the gap between the Prem and those below it and that will certainly be a factor next season. I would expect all three relegated clubs to be there or thereabouts (certainly all in the top six), just like this year. |
this year was the first time that has happened in ages though and parachute payments have been around for years. | | | |
| Sheffield United on 13:52 - May 28 with 2917 views | Myke |
| Sheffield United on 13:09 - May 28 by PinnerPaul |
this year was the first time that has happened in ages though and parachute payments have been around for years. |
That's why I said 'Covid has widened the gap considerably'. Prem clubs depend on attendance revenue much less than those lower down the divisions. Even with crowds (hopefully) back next season, it'll be a least the following season before that gap is narrowed back to what is was pre the first lockdown | | | |
| Sheffield United on 14:02 - May 28 with 2891 views | Northernr |
| Sheffield United on 13:52 - May 28 by Myke |
That's why I said 'Covid has widened the gap considerably'. Prem clubs depend on attendance revenue much less than those lower down the divisions. Even with crowds (hopefully) back next season, it'll be a least the following season before that gap is narrowed back to what is was pre the first lockdown |
I'm interested to see how this plays out too. The other factor in their favour this season was they've got much bigger, deeper squads, which was crucial in a seven month season - next season is back to the usual length so that advantage won't be so acute.
There's just as many horror stories as immediate returns, even recently. Look at Stoke and Hudds. | | | |
| Sheffield United on 14:04 - May 28 with 2883 views | SimonJames |
| Sheffield United on 19:46 - May 27 by derbyhoop |
I'm not sure the 3 relegated sides will be as strong as some think. Of course, parachute payments give them a huge advantage, but it isn't the be all and end all.
Sheffield United may well have gone up 2 seasons ago on the back of it being Chris Wilder's home town club. They were v poor in the PL and Jokanovic will have a job to get rid of that losing mentality/
Fulham, as Konk implied, were over reliant on loanees. Cairney, if fit, is a class act. Mitrovic has proved in the past he can score goals at Championship level, without ever pulling up trees in the PL. Defensively, I'm not convinced.
WBA look the best bet, but not having a current manager will be a major hindrance. Can't see them keeping Pereira. Not sure of the rest of the squad other than 1 of our own at RB. |
"I'm not sure the 3 relegated sides will be as strong as some think..."
I'm not sure they need to be. The rest of the championship teams might be so weakened by the financial and psychological effects of covid that it could take more than a season to recover. |  |
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| Sheffield United on 14:22 - May 28 with 2832 views | enfieldargh |
Bournemouth must really be in the mire.
Not only did they get parachute payments they also creamed in £60M on the sales of King & Aki plus loads of money from Sheff U for ramsdale and offloading Wilson, Daniels plus quite a few more.
Solanke is extremely wanekey and well worth all the money they blew on him. Mepham looks dreadful and Kelly much the same player he was at Bristol but with a 10 millionish price tag.
Only Brooks, Lermer & Danjuma looked quality, the rest you wouldn't want fighting alongside you in the trenches.
Add to that one of the smallest stadium capacities in the champ. Diminishing parachute payments team re-building on the cheap?
Be interesting to see if they do splash the cash they dont have |  |
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| Sheffield United on 14:43 - May 28 with 2797 views | Konk |
| Sheffield United on 21:46 - May 27 by tonyQPR |
Did jojo and joko’s paths cross at Fulham would be very concerned about our chances of signing jojo if the case 😔 |
Johansen, Cairney and McDonald were an amazingly good and complementary midfield under Jokanovic. Scored plenty of goals between them and were brilliant to watch. I’d be surprised if neither Johansen or Cairney weren’t of interest to Joka. |  |
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| Sheffield United on 16:04 - May 28 with 2711 views | tonyQPR |
| Sheffield United on 14:43 - May 28 by Konk |
Johansen, Cairney and McDonald were an amazingly good and complementary midfield under Jokanovic. Scored plenty of goals between them and were brilliant to watch. I’d be surprised if neither Johansen or Cairney weren’t of interest to Joka. |
Guess we’ll find out soon enough how much he loved his time at QPR and living in London, as I’m sure sheff Utd could quite easily offer a lot more in wages I’m thinking 🤨 | | | |
| Sheffield United on 16:17 - May 28 with 2680 views | hantssi |
| Sheffield United on 16:04 - May 28 by tonyQPR |
Guess we’ll find out soon enough how much he loved his time at QPR and living in London, as I’m sure sheff Utd could quite easily offer a lot more in wages I’m thinking 🤨 |
And a cheaper cost of living! | | | |
| Sheffield United on 07:44 - May 29 with 2333 views | rsonist |
| Sheffield United on 14:43 - May 28 by Konk |
Johansen, Cairney and McDonald were an amazingly good and complementary midfield under Jokanovic. Scored plenty of goals between them and were brilliant to watch. I’d be surprised if neither Johansen or Cairney weren’t of interest to Joka. |
Centre mid clearly where they need most work done too. Norwood might be fine for the Cairney role but Johansen would be spot on there unfortunately.
Could see a sharp improvement in fortunes for Freeman now. |  | | |
| Sheffield United on 08:01 - May 29 with 2303 views | rsonist |
Blades need the least work done but I don't think any of the relegated sides are conclusive shoo-ins at this early stage, there's definite potential for a poor summer's recruitment tanking them if they're not careful.
If it's Wilder for West Brom it'll be interesting to see if he tries and repeats his tactical trick or plays to what he's got. They have plenty of solid Champ stoppers that will look like idiots if they're made to do overlaps for instance - could be good times for Furs though. | | | |
| Sheffield United on 08:05 - May 29 with 2284 views | rsonist |
| Sheffield United on 14:04 - May 28 by SimonJames |
"I'm not sure the 3 relegated sides will be as strong as some think..."
I'm not sure they need to be. The rest of the championship teams might be so weakened by the financial and psychological effects of covid that it could take more than a season to recover. |
Yeah it's not like Watford and Bournemouth were actually strong at all this season. Just enough bodies and residual talent there to stay functional at best. [Post edited 29 May 2021 8:06]
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| Sheffield United on 08:35 - May 29 with 2231 views | TGRRRSSS |
| Sheffield United on 16:17 - May 28 by hantssi |
And a cheaper cost of living! |
Hardly an issues on the kind of wages even at that level and living in or around London offers.
Not sure I would choose Sheffield due to cost of living if I were a footballer. |  | | |
| Sheffield United on 08:55 - May 29 with 2181 views | distortR |
| Sheffield United on 16:04 - May 28 by tonyQPR |
Guess we’ll find out soon enough how much he loved his time at QPR and living in London, as I’m sure sheff Utd could quite easily offer a lot more in wages I’m thinking 🤨 |
I'm one of those who would play for QPR for a fifth of what I could earn elsewhere. This would have 2 advantages;
1) get to play for Rangers
2) the wife would leave me when she found out I could be earning so much more | | | |
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