| Third Covid Wave 10:36 - Jul 16 with 55925 views | Sadoldgit |
Infection and hospital rates climbing rapidly. Death rates projected at 200 per day. Nearly 4m people at serious risk. New information coming out about the problems Covid cause the body if it doesn’t kill you. People laid up for the best part of a year with serious complications. Concern over the AstraZenica vaccine. Is it really wise to lift most of the restrictions on Monday? We have been told that we aren’t going back into another lockdown situation no matter what, but Whitty seems to think it might have to be on the cards. [Post edited 18 Jul 2021 9:29]
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| Third Covid Wave on 09:01 - Sep 7 with 796 views | DorsetIan |
| Third Covid Wave on 08:34 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
Over the past 35yrs or so we've had many well known figures express that the human population has gotten out of control.. the new parasite was one quote...
Dr David Attenborough is just one of the many that have spoken about the situation along with Bill Gates and countless others( obviously the prime minister's father being an advocate).
I don't think we are privvy to full disclosure from the scientific community in relation to global warming the relentless wrecking of the planet by us humans, but there will be some that are.
I'd imagine maybe a dynasty that has the ear of every government across the globe...a dynasty that has on countless occasions financed both sides and even all sides fighting wars for the past couple of hundred years..is there such a dynasty.
Imagine that for their own future wellbeing they see no other option than to eradicate the threat in a manner that doesn't wreck the planet Any further(war is hell) but a more controlled way that doesn't leave city's in ruins and infrastructure destroyed...
Obviously they will be offering those who support the golden ticket..that in itself is enough for many to keep silent...3yrs of disruption to endure the planet survives..not to difficult to fathom.
Far fetched or plausible..they have previous as you well know |
You'd imagine maybe a dynasty...
But you don't know who or where or when. Or, despite them being in contact with 'every government across the globe' how they manage to keep themselves pretty much completely under the radar.
It's fantasy. |  |
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| Third Covid Wave on 09:20 - Sep 7 with 783 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 09:00 - Sep 7 by Sadoldgit |
It would be stupid to rule out another lockdown should one be needed in order to help the NHS but it would appear that it has just been mentioned and isn’t going to happen as they are looking to the vaccines for protection of the vulnerable. That would be the vaccines that have caused minimal problems to a minimum of people against as against letting people take their chances against a virus that has killed hundreds of thousands of people. [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 9:02]
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You just don't listen do you Israel the most heavily vaccinated per capita country has its hospitals overflowing with fully vaccinated patients.. its a fact . .there however is a anomaly in that country..the UNVACCINATED orthodox Jewish community aren't seeing any significant rises..they aren't vaxed they aren't taking up hospital beds..the vaccine is filling those beds..open your eyes..its the same here for god sake man...70% of beds currently in the over 50's is those that are vaccinated..your logic is flawed follow the science and statistics not your ignorance [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 9:41]
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| Third Covid Wave on 09:22 - Sep 7 with 778 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 09:01 - Sep 7 by DorsetIan |
You'd imagine maybe a dynasty...
But you don't know who or where or when. Or, despite them being in contact with 'every government across the globe' how they manage to keep themselves pretty much completely under the radar.
It's fantasy. |
My God man. Learn some bloody history..the Rothschilds.. | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 10:15 - Sep 7 with 747 views | Sadoldgit |
| Third Covid Wave on 09:20 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
You just don't listen do you Israel the most heavily vaccinated per capita country has its hospitals overflowing with fully vaccinated patients.. its a fact . .there however is a anomaly in that country..the UNVACCINATED orthodox Jewish community aren't seeing any significant rises..they aren't vaxed they aren't taking up hospital beds..the vaccine is filling those beds..open your eyes..its the same here for god sake man...70% of beds currently in the over 50's is those that are vaccinated..your logic is flawed follow the science and statistics not your ignorance [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 9:41]
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Don’t follow ignorance huh? Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
If you want to get worked up about something why not go after the fact that the super rich have got richer during the pandemic and the rest of us poorer. Poorer still when NI goes up as likely to be revealed today. | | | |
| Third Covid Wave on 10:35 - Sep 7 with 744 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 10:15 - Sep 7 by Sadoldgit |
Don’t follow ignorance huh? Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
If you want to get worked up about something why not go after the fact that the super rich have got richer during the pandemic and the rest of us poorer. Poorer still when NI goes up as likely to be revealed today. |
You shout and scream daily about the Tory elite that keep the common man down..but you fail to even fathom that there is a level above them of mega elite that have no conscience when it comes to enabling wars that killed millions and have financed Genocides over the past 200yrs...you are blind to that very disturbing reality...says a lot about you.
You herald scientists as if they are the answer to all our woes..the very same community that has developed sold and distributed chemical and biological weapons..but you fail to even compute that...you are on a flawed platform of lateral thinking...you think you know that it will all be fine ..but you are only guessing/hoping that your blind assumption is correct ..you can't be selective and cherry pick the bits that suit your narrative.. | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 11:07 - Sep 7 with 729 views | Sadoldgit |
| Third Covid Wave on 10:35 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
You shout and scream daily about the Tory elite that keep the common man down..but you fail to even fathom that there is a level above them of mega elite that have no conscience when it comes to enabling wars that killed millions and have financed Genocides over the past 200yrs...you are blind to that very disturbing reality...says a lot about you.
You herald scientists as if they are the answer to all our woes..the very same community that has developed sold and distributed chemical and biological weapons..but you fail to even compute that...you are on a flawed platform of lateral thinking...you think you know that it will all be fine ..but you are only guessing/hoping that your blind assumption is correct ..you can't be selective and cherry pick the bits that suit your narrative.. |
Yes, scientist develop weapons of mass destruction. They also develop cures for polio, cancer and vaccines against pandemics. So what should we do? Assume that every scientist has an ulterior motive and wants us dead? There is a reason that people don’t take serial conspiracy theorists seriously. I am more than happy to believe that the Royal family are shape shifting lizards, but I need to see the hard evidence first. | | | |
| Third Covid Wave on 11:21 - Sep 7 with 724 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 11:07 - Sep 7 by Sadoldgit |
Yes, scientist develop weapons of mass destruction. They also develop cures for polio, cancer and vaccines against pandemics. So what should we do? Assume that every scientist has an ulterior motive and wants us dead? There is a reason that people don’t take serial conspiracy theorists seriously. I am more than happy to believe that the Royal family are shape shifting lizards, but I need to see the hard evidence first. |
Yet again you shift track to escape answering.. I notice you have nothing to say in regards to the situation in Israel that makes the vaccine sceptics look correct..explain the anomaly of the unvaxed there..you can't because it directly goes against your staunch unmovable adoration of these vaccines...you want your cake and everyone else's it would seem.. | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 11:24 - Sep 7 with 722 views | Sadoldgit |
| Third Covid Wave on 11:21 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
Yet again you shift track to escape answering.. I notice you have nothing to say in regards to the situation in Israel that makes the vaccine sceptics look correct..explain the anomaly of the unvaxed there..you can't because it directly goes against your staunch unmovable adoration of these vaccines...you want your cake and everyone else's it would seem.. |
Adoration is a strange word to use, but yes, I am thankful that I have had a vaccine that will make my death from Covid 19 less likely.
As regards the situation in Israel, it just backs up what was thought, that a booster will be required. Better than long term illness or death surely? [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 11:30]
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| Third Covid Wave on 11:33 - Sep 7 with 717 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 11:24 - Sep 7 by Sadoldgit |
Adoration is a strange word to use, but yes, I am thankful that I have had a vaccine that will make my death from Covid 19 less likely.
As regards the situation in Israel, it just backs up what was thought, that a booster will be required. Better than long term illness or death surely? [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 11:30]
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And the UNVACCINATED in israel | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 11:50 - Sep 7 with 690 views | Butty101 |
| Third Covid Wave on 11:33 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
And the UNVACCINATED in israel |
You two should get a room |  |
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| Third Covid Wave on 11:54 - Sep 7 with 698 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 11:50 - Sep 7 by Butty101 |
You two should get a room |
That would be fantastic..can we start a funding thread to make that happen? | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 12:04 - Sep 7 with 693 views | Sadoldgit |
| Third Covid Wave on 11:33 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
And the UNVACCINATED in israel |
Which means what exactly? | | | |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:35 - Sep 7 with 674 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:04 - Sep 7 by Sadoldgit |
Which means what exactly? |
It means that Israel is In crisis with its hospitals full of double vaccinated patients..however its unvaccinated orthodox community isn't suffering a similar problem..so those that haven't taken a single vaccine are not bed blocking..those that have are. .the same here in the over 50's so simplified because you really are struggling...israels vaccinated population are worse off/sicker/suffering than its not vaccinated..CAPICHE!! | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 12:43 - Sep 7 with 671 views | cynicalsaint |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:35 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
It means that Israel is In crisis with its hospitals full of double vaccinated patients..however its unvaccinated orthodox community isn't suffering a similar problem..so those that haven't taken a single vaccine are not bed blocking..those that have are. .the same here in the over 50's so simplified because you really are struggling...israels vaccinated population are worse off/sicker/suffering than its not vaccinated..CAPICHE!! |
Apologies, joining this a little late so it may have been covered earlier in the thread.
If we go with your theory about this being part of a much larger and far more sinister plot, what do you suggest we do about it?
In real, practical terms what should the response be? | | | |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:43 - Sep 7 with 671 views | Sadoldgit |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:35 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
It means that Israel is In crisis with its hospitals full of double vaccinated patients..however its unvaccinated orthodox community isn't suffering a similar problem..so those that haven't taken a single vaccine are not bed blocking..those that have are. .the same here in the over 50's so simplified because you really are struggling...israels vaccinated population are worse off/sicker/suffering than its not vaccinated..CAPICHE!! |
So the article I just read that says you are 6 times more likely to end up with serious complications in Israel if you haven’t had a vaccination aren’t true then? Apparently a recent surge in infectition rates has been put down to the Delta variant, hence the need for a booster. You seem to completely ignore the difference in death rates from before vaccination programmes in countries to after. | | | |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:57 - Sep 7 with 664 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:43 - Sep 7 by Sadoldgit |
So the article I just read that says you are 6 times more likely to end up with serious complications in Israel if you haven’t had a vaccination aren’t true then? Apparently a recent surge in infectition rates has been put down to the Delta variant, hence the need for a booster. You seem to completely ignore the difference in death rates from before vaccination programmes in countries to after. |
You are in denial mate .unvaccinated orthodox Jews aren't suffering from either variant in anywhere near their fellow vaccinated countrymen..they rubshoulders walk the same streets and shops..but they aren't seeing massive surges but the vaccinated are ..you're starting to look a little bit ignorant now..accept that these unvaccinated orthodox Jews are not being hammered by the virus/vaccine..it wouldn't hurt to acknowledge that obvious verifiable situation .your hocuspocus jab isn't the answer..this incidence pours cold water on your stancevif the jab is king..it isnt [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 14:30]
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| Third Covid Wave on 13:06 - Sep 7 with 657 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:43 - Sep 7 by cynicalsaint |
Apologies, joining this a little late so it may have been covered earlier in the thread.
If we go with your theory about this being part of a much larger and far more sinister plot, what do you suggest we do about it?
In real, practical terms what should the response be? |
Hold the government to account as is being done by the very respected Anna De Buisseret ..
Start to ignore BBC propaganda and fear tactics...refuse any vaccine until its licenced in 2023
The government stated that 120000 people died last year of covid-19 .but the annual death rate doesn't correlate to that amount..
They don't follow the science they just do as they feel
They have removed masses of legally binding centuries old and more recent legislation to act in anyway they see fit..thats non democratic and will be found in time to be wholy illegal and unjustifiable. [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 13:24]
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| Third Covid Wave on 13:52 - Sep 7 with 626 views | Butty101 |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:57 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
You are in denial mate .unvaccinated orthodox Jews aren't suffering from either variant in anywhere near their fellow vaccinated countrymen..they rubshoulders walk the same streets and shops..but they aren't seeing massive surges but the vaccinated are ..you're starting to look a little bit ignorant now..accept that these unvaccinated orthodox Jews are not being hammered by the virus/vaccine..it wouldn't hurt to acknowledge that obvious verifiable situation .your hocuspocus jab isn't the answer..this incidence pours cold water on your stancevif the jab is king..it isnt [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 14:30]
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So if you are orthodox you are safe as houses. Un-orthodox you are screwed. That pretend god is a picky bugger for sure | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 14:29 - Sep 7 with 606 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 13:52 - Sep 7 by Butty101 |
So if you are orthodox you are safe as houses. Un-orthodox you are screwed. That pretend god is a picky bugger for sure |
They chose not to have the vaccine and they just arent suffering in anyway near the same as those vaccinated..this has been heavily covered in the New York Times amongst other outlets..
But totally agree regards religion..its definitely not my cup of tea. | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 14:56 - Sep 7 with 596 views | Sadoldgit |
| Third Covid Wave on 12:57 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
You are in denial mate .unvaccinated orthodox Jews aren't suffering from either variant in anywhere near their fellow vaccinated countrymen..they rubshoulders walk the same streets and shops..but they aren't seeing massive surges but the vaccinated are ..you're starting to look a little bit ignorant now..accept that these unvaccinated orthodox Jews are not being hammered by the virus/vaccine..it wouldn't hurt to acknowledge that obvious verifiable situation .your hocuspocus jab isn't the answer..this incidence pours cold water on your stancevif the jab is king..it isnt [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 14:30]
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So what are you telling us? That unvaccinated Jews are actually the chosen race? | | | |
| Third Covid Wave on 15:07 - Sep 7 with 583 views | Heisenberg |
| Third Covid Wave on 14:29 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
They chose not to have the vaccine and they just arent suffering in anyway near the same as those vaccinated..this has been heavily covered in the New York Times amongst other outlets..
But totally agree regards religion..its definitely not my cup of tea. |
If Saints got to a cup final and the rules said only those who could prove they were vaccinated could attend would you take the vaccine ? |  |
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| Third Covid Wave on 15:15 - Sep 7 with 577 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 15:07 - Sep 7 by Heisenberg |
If Saints got to a cup final and the rules said only those who could prove they were vaccinated could attend would you take the vaccine ? |
Not if Stephens in defence and McCarthy is between the sticks | |
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| Third Covid Wave on 15:21 - Sep 7 with 575 views | Sadoldgit |
| Third Covid Wave on 14:29 - Sep 7 by saint68 |
They chose not to have the vaccine and they just arent suffering in anyway near the same as those vaccinated..this has been heavily covered in the New York Times amongst other outlets..
But totally agree regards religion..its definitely not my cup of tea. |
Can you provide a link please? If this is true, how do you account for the death rate before the vaccinations and the fall in the death rate after vaccinations in the rest of the world? | | | |
| Third Covid Wave on 15:37 - Sep 7 with 560 views | saint68 |
| Third Covid Wave on 14:56 - Sep 7 by Sadoldgit |
So what are you telling us? That unvaccinated Jews are actually the chosen race? |
Don't be absurd, that's rather a disgusting thing to insinuate. | |
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