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Stephen Dooley 17:11 - Sep 12 with 2305 viewsboromat

Think he deserves his own thread. Since he's been at the club he's always been a nearly player. Showing glimpses but never being confident and consistent enough to hold down a place in the first team.

This season with the drop to League 2 and the change to central midfield he's been brilliant and has a great relationship going with Morley.

I never want to see him on the wing again! Keep it up Dooley

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Stephen Dooley on 17:22 - Sep 12 with 2256 viewsEllDale

He’s not the only player to show a marked a marked improvement.
Perhaps it’s playing at a lower level?
Or because he’s being encouraged to play more positively and not just as part of a project?
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Stephen Dooley on 17:46 - Sep 12 with 2192 viewstony_roch975

Great post boromat. As a long-term advocate for Dooley (or rather attempting a balance to the 'all-or-nothing' critiques some posts rely on) I've often been in dispute on here with other posters.

I agree he has benefitted from the drop in leagues (Newby even more so in my opinion), but he has always given 100% and often been far more effective than has sometimes been appreciated at knitting the midfield together - especially this season he is the one always within 10 yards of the ball, ready to slip a short pass to a teammate.

I've noticed this season how much closer (narrower) our m/fielders are playing but that does put demands on the 2 wide strikers to provide cover - something Joe Thompson did brilliantly.

Perhaps, as someone said after the game on Saturday, there's been too much expectations from Dooley's first few games after he signed where his attacking wing play was so effective but having added some crunching tackling to his play he's a real asset.

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Stephen Dooley on 17:46 - Sep 12 with 2186 viewsjonahwhereru

Stephen Dooley on 17:22 - Sep 12 by EllDale

He’s not the only player to show a marked a marked improvement.
Perhaps it’s playing at a lower level?
Or because he’s being encouraged to play more positively and not just as part of a project?


I think the drop in level is significant in him impacting matches, and the fact he is currently not constantly in and out of the team. I always thought he could make a mark at this level. However have to say that if we were to get promoted I just don’t think he could cut it back in league one.
Call me suspicious but I think he falls into the category where he would have more chance of another contract if the team stayed in L2, rather than if the team got promoted. I can’t help but really scrutinise these types, towards seasons end, when what is better for the individual doesn’t tally with what is best for the club.
I’ve talked myself into thinking I am being unfair.
Keep up the good work SD.
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Stephen Dooley on 17:50 - Sep 12 with 2169 viewsD_Alien

Stephen Dooley on 17:22 - Sep 12 by EllDale

He’s not the only player to show a marked a marked improvement.
Perhaps it’s playing at a lower level?
Or because he’s being encouraged to play more positively and not just as part of a project?


Both the drop in level and the positive play are making a difference, but the biggest difference of all is his new-found ability to tackle effectively and win the ball

The biggest frustration before this season was the powder-puff way he'd let the opposition past him and lose out on 60/40 balls

The myth that BBM is even a good coach (let alone manager) needs revising in the light of what Robbie Stockdale is bringing to the game of players we've seen going backwards under the previous regime. If a coach can't improve players, what's he there for?

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Stephen Dooley on 17:58 - Sep 12 with 2143 viewsR17ALE

Stephen Dooley on 17:50 - Sep 12 by D_Alien

Both the drop in level and the positive play are making a difference, but the biggest difference of all is his new-found ability to tackle effectively and win the ball

The biggest frustration before this season was the powder-puff way he'd let the opposition past him and lose out on 60/40 balls

The myth that BBM is even a good coach (let alone manager) needs revising in the light of what Robbie Stockdale is bringing to the game of players we've seen going backwards under the previous regime. If a coach can't improve players, what's he there for?


I can't think of one player who has gone backwards under Stockdale.

Conversely, I can't think of one who'd improved under BBM!

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Stephen Dooley on 18:19 - Sep 12 with 2085 viewsboromat

Agree with the tackling does feel like he's got more about him in that department but maybe that's also down to the position he now finds himself in. He's no longer as likely to be one on one with fast tricky full backs and wingers but in the centre of the pitch where it's easier to stand up an opponent with team mates usually either side of you and behind you.

I also agree he's not the only one to see an improvement due to the drop in leagues but I think he's probably seen the biggest improvement. And maybe that is compounded by the position change. Newby for example looks much better but I don't think that's as much to do with the drop in League but more to do with the style in play. We're much more direct and it's really suiting him. He's being given the freedom to do whatever he wants to get that ball into dangerous areas.

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Stephen Dooley on 18:38 - Sep 12 with 2002 viewsjudd

Same player, different manager.

It's really that simple.

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Stephen Dooley on 18:42 - Sep 12 with 1996 viewsrich_dale

Good post and full credit to Stockdale for his part in reinventing him as a central midfielder. He's also benefitted from the confidence of knowing he's now a first X1 choice and it shows.
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Stephen Dooley on 19:37 - Sep 12 with 1845 viewsjonahwhereru

Stephen Dooley on 17:58 - Sep 12 by R17ALE

I can't think of one player who has gone backwards under Stockdale.

Conversely, I can't think of one who'd improved under BBM!


Really. Swiss Army Jimmy went from bit part player under Hill and the early days of BBM. To a player confident enough to turn his hand to any position, score double figures and get voted player of the season, by the time BBM walked.
Think again.
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Stephen Dooley on 20:05 - Sep 12 with 1757 viewsEllDale

He might have to play right wingback this week if O'Keeffe is ineligible.
Andy White on the other flank or Matty Done?
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Stephen Dooley on 20:10 - Sep 12 with 1729 viewsD_Alien

Stephen Dooley on 20:05 - Sep 12 by EllDale

He might have to play right wingback this week if O'Keeffe is ineligible.
Andy White on the other flank or Matty Done?


Shouldn't even be a question

Aidy White has played lwb at a high level, and was brought in to improve us in that position

If he's fit, and SAJ switches wings, he plays

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Stephen Dooley on 20:22 - Sep 12 with 1683 viewsTVOS1907

Stephen Dooley on 20:05 - Sep 12 by EllDale

He might have to play right wingback this week if O'Keeffe is ineligible.
Andy White on the other flank or Matty Done?


Andy White used to post on here.

A wise man once said, "It's a shame some people take more pleasure in defeat than victory."

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Stephen Dooley on 20:30 - Sep 12 with 1656 viewsboromat

Stephen Dooley on 20:10 - Sep 12 by D_Alien

Shouldn't even be a question

Aidy White has played lwb at a high level, and was brought in to improve us in that position

If he's fit, and SAJ switches wings, he plays

[Post edited 12 Sep 2021 20:11]


Aidy White looked very good in the Liverpool game think he'd be the better choice. I'd rather see Done up top.

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Stephen Dooley on 23:07 - Sep 12 with 1410 viewsR17ALE

Stephen Dooley on 19:37 - Sep 12 by jonahwhereru

Really. Swiss Army Jimmy went from bit part player under Hill and the early days of BBM. To a player confident enough to turn his hand to any position, score double figures and get voted player of the season, by the time BBM walked.
Think again.


You are right. I'd forgotten him. Thank you for your prompt.

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Stephen Dooley on 09:09 - Sep 13 with 1059 viewsblackdogblue

Stephen Dooley on 23:07 - Sep 12 by R17ALE

You are right. I'd forgotten him. Thank you for your prompt.


What about R Luke? but agree with the overall comment

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