Forum | England v Fiji RL at Spotland by judd

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 19:08 - Jul 22 with 3315 views

No update at all on the Hornets site since this in August 2021:
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/927/england-v-fiji-postponed-until-

Following the recent announcement that the Rugby League World Cup would be moved to Autumn 2022, the club has worked tirelessly with partners to ensure Rochdale Hornets would still host international rugby league in the run up to the rescheduled tournament.

An agreement in principle is now in place between Rochdale Hornets, the Rugby Football League and Fiji Rugby League for a fixture to be played at the Crown Oil Arena in the run up to the RLWC in 2022.

A date for the rearranged fixture is yet to be confirmed.

Tickets, hospitality, and sponsorship purchased for this year’s event will be valid for the rearranged fixture and tickets will be issued prior to the event fixture. The event fixture is currently unavailable for purchase but will be made available for sale once a new date is set.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 19:09 - Jul 22 with 3312 views

Thanks for that, you 70s porn star.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 19:16 - Jul 22 with 3290 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 19:09 - Jul 22 by judd
Thanks for that, you 70s porn star.

Comparisons of that kind are inevitable when one has a moustache. Being truthful it was more the late 60's when things were in full swing.

The commercial brochure for the game is still available:
https://issuu.com/rochdalehornets/docs/commercial_properties

The ticket FAQ's are here:
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/tickets-new/england-vs-fiji-faqs

Q. If the match is cancelled can I have a refund?

A. Yes, we are offering a 'Money Back Guarantee' on your tickets if the event is cancelled due to the covid 19. Fans can therefore buy with confidence and we look forward to welcoming you to the Crown Oil Arena.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 19:23 - Jul 22 with 3246 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 19:16 - Jul 22 by RAFCBLUE

Cancelled due to the covid 19.

That could be interesting.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:36 - Jul 22 with 3133 views

No chance of the game taking place, crowd restriction is just 900 +apparently enforced by the football club, you couldn't make it up really. Certainly a lot of bar takings, hospitality revenue lost as well as a lot of us wanting to see International rugby. Own goal? https://media.tenor.com/images/c4bc658bec6abbbbee8855037332b259/tenor.gif?c=VjFf

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:38 - Jul 22 with 3125 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:36 - Jul 22 by lenrichleysneighbour
No chance of the game taking place, crowd restriction is just 900 +apparently enforced by the football club, you couldn't make it up really. Certainly a lot of bar takings, hospitality revenue lost as well as a lot of us wanting to see International rugby. Own goal? https://media.tenor.com/images/c4bc658bec6abbbbee8855037332b259/tenor.gif?c=VjFf

Isn't the restriction related to Hornets games?

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:46 - Jul 22 with 3084 views

kel

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:36 - Jul 22 by lenrichleysneighbour
No chance of the game taking place, crowd restriction is just 900 +apparently enforced by the football club, you couldn't make it up really. Certainly a lot of bar takings, hospitality revenue lost as well as a lot of us wanting to see International rugby. Own goal? https://media.tenor.com/images/c4bc658bec6abbbbee8855037332b259/tenor.gif?c=VjFf

“Just 900+”

Doesn’t sound like a restriction to me.

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:49 - Jul 22 with 3064 views

pioneer

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:38 - Jul 22 by judd
Isn't the restriction related to Hornets games?

Yes, it relates to the lease with Hornets.

Strange that there has been no announcement on this. England are to play a yet to be announced warm up game on October 7th according to a recent press release relating to their yet to confirmed world cup strip.

Dale are at Newport on Oct 8th so stadium likely to be available on 7th.

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:52 - Jul 22 with 3057 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:38 - Jul 22 by judd
Isn't the restriction related to Hornets games?

No idea, I guess if Hornets are organising it then the restrictions will still apply, if not then we can be accursed of a bit of hypocrisy.

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:57 - Jul 22 with 3049 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:46 - Jul 22 by kel
“Just 900+” Doesn’t sound like a restriction to me.

between 900 and a thousand then.

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:02 - Jul 22 with 3027 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:52 - Jul 22 by lenrichleysneighbour
No idea, I guess if Hornets are organising it then the restrictions will still apply, if not then we can be accursed of a bit of hypocrisy.

Why is it hypocrisy?

Surely it's the Stadium.Compamy owners hosting a rugby league friendly international and so should be entitled to.eirher rent the place out under the terms of the safety certificate, or keep ticket proceeds.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:09 - Jul 22 with 3001 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:02 - Jul 22 by judd
Why is it hypocrisy? Surely it's the Stadium.Compamy owners hosting a rugby league friendly international and so should be entitled to.eirher rent the place out under the terms of the safety certificate, or keep ticket proceeds.

Sorry but I thought it was organised through Hornets. Apologies for that didnt realise it was through the Stadium Company

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:10 - Jul 22 with 2999 views

EllDale

The England versus Fiji game, as I understand it, was awarded to Spotland in recognition of the town’s relationship with Fiji.
It wasn’t awarded to Hornets as such.
There was plenty of lobbying by the likes of Mike Ratu to get the match staged in Rochdale but it wasn’t anything to do with the regime at Hornets.
The RFL were renting the stadium from the owners.

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:17 - Jul 22 with 2978 views

kel

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:52 - Jul 22 by lenrichleysneighbour
No idea, I guess if Hornets are organising it then the restrictions will still apply, if not then we can be accursed of a bit of hypocrisy.

“Accursed”

You’re a rugger fan aren’t you!

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:17 - Jul 22 with 2975 views

kel

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 20:57 - Jul 22 by lenrichleysneighbour
between 900 and a thousand then.

Why not say that then?

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:18 - Jul 22 with 2974 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:10 - Jul 22 by EllDale
The England versus Fiji game, as I understand it, was awarded to Spotland in recognition of the town’s relationship with Fiji. It wasn’t awarded to Hornets as such. There was plenty of lobbying by the likes of Mike Ratu to get the match staged in Rochdale but it wasn’t anything to do with the regime at Hornets. The RFL were renting the stadium from the owners.

Thank you for that, everything on this forum seems to be a Rochdale / Hornets battleground.

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:19 - Jul 22 with 2970 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:09 - Jul 22 by lenrichleysneighbour
Sorry but I thought it was organised through Hornets. Apologies for that didnt realise it was through the Stadium Company

I thought it was to celebrate 150 years of Rochdale Hornets, a book covering the history not available from their club shop.

I believe it was a deal done with the displaced former CE so wouldn't surprise me if it was on a nod and a wink

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:24 - Jul 22 with 2959 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:10 - Jul 22 by EllDale
The England versus Fiji game, as I understand it, was awarded to Spotland in recognition of the town’s relationship with Fiji. It wasn’t awarded to Hornets as such. There was plenty of lobbying by the likes of Mike Ratu to get the match staged in Rochdale but it wasn’t anything to do with the regime at Hornets. The RFL were renting the stadium from the owners.

I don't think that's right EllDale.

According to this:
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/927/england-v-fiji-postponed-until-

"An agreement in principle is now in place between Rochdale Hornets, the Rugby Football League and Fiji Rugby League for a fixture to be played at the Crown Oil Arena in the run up to the RLWC in 2022.

A date for the rearranged fixture is yet to be confirmed."

There's no mention I can see of this on our official site.

It must be a big crowd too because "Rochdale Hornets CEO, Steve Kerr said:

“Work can now continue to make the England v Fiji game an incredibly special event for all fans, and I thank the thousands of people who have already purchased tickets, hospitality and sponsorship for their support, patience and understanding."

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:27 - Jul 22 with 2948 views

EllDale

Fair enough, I stand corrected.
I just remembered a conversation with someone from the RFL at the time who said that Spotland was ideal as far as they were concerned as the game would probably sell out and they wouldn’t lose money.
It was going to be England’s only warmup game before the World Cup.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:33 - Jul 22 with 2932 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:27 - Jul 22 by EllDale
Fair enough, I stand corrected. I just remembered a conversation with someone from the RFL at the time who said that Spotland was ideal as far as they were concerned as the game would probably sell out and they wouldn’t lose money. It was going to be England’s only warmup game before the World Cup.

Funny mentioning the RFL because I can't find any trace of the England vs Fiji game anywhere else other than the Rochdale Hornets website.

This is from the RFL site:
https://www.rugby-league.com/article/60556/england-rugby-league-to-launch-new-pl

England Men will wear the new kit for the first time in their World Cup warm-up match on Friday 7 October, with more details to follow on this event next week.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:46 - Jul 22 with 2891 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:33 - Jul 22 by RAFCBLUE

Probably because Hornets themselves don't know if the game can be played maybe?

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:52 - Jul 22 with 2877 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:46 - Jul 22 by lenrichleysneighbour
Probably because Hornets themselves don't know if the game can be played maybe?

Would be very odd if Hornets didn't know when the game is given they have the agreement in principle!

According to this:
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/927/england-v-fiji-postponed-until-

"An agreement in principle is now in place between Rochdale Hornets, the Rugby Football League and Fiji Rugby League for a fixture to be played at the Crown Oil Arena in the run up to the RLWC in 2022.

A date for the rearranged fixture is yet to be confirmed."

The announcement might be tied to some commercial contract which is why they can't announce it but I'd expect that they would know.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:53 - Jul 22 with 2875 views

EllDale

The RFL would have to be involved as the national team comes under their jurisdiction and so any game like this would have to have their approval.
At the time I understood that they would take the net gate receipts after all allowable expenses and Hornets would get commercial revenue from hospitality and merchandising plus recognition of their 150th anniversary.

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:54 - Jul 22 with 2873 views

England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 21:52 - Jul 22 by RAFCBLUE

Plus those thousands who have stumped up already means there's probably a pretty cash pile that can't yet be spent.

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England v Fiji RL at Spotland on 22:01 - Jul 22 with 2852 views