| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:09 - Jan 17 with 3728 views | KeithHaynes |
Just added Beale’s comments he made just now on sky sports regards Whittaker. |  |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:32 - Jan 17 with 3644 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:09 - Jan 17 by KeithHaynes |
Just added Beale’s comments he made just now on sky sports regards Whittaker. |
January Cluster Flex.
a) Cooper did not rate Goykeres. (available for £1m) £5-10m+ mistake
b) Martin does not rate Whittaker. £10m+ mistake again?
Who has Martin got as g forwards who want to play for him? Cullen and Piroe and Piroe is not minded to sign a new deal. No guarentee Cullen can continue this good t run of form
Ogbene scored 1 in 10 in League 1 not 4 in 10 like Whittaker. He is having a Patterson style purple patch. [Post edited 17 Jan 2023 14:33]
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:43 - Jan 17 with 3602 views | nantywatcher |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:32 - Jan 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
January Cluster Flex.
a) Cooper did not rate Goykeres. (available for £1m) £5-10m+ mistake
b) Martin does not rate Whittaker. £10m+ mistake again?
Who has Martin got as g forwards who want to play for him? Cullen and Piroe and Piroe is not minded to sign a new deal. No guarentee Cullen can continue this good t run of form
Ogbene scored 1 in 10 in League 1 not 4 in 10 like Whittaker. He is having a Patterson style purple patch. [Post edited 17 Jan 2023 14:33]
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a) No-one in the stadium rated Gyorkes - he was nigh on useless down here.
b) I get a feeling its more to do with the relationship between Whittaker and the managers rather than not rate him. People keep going on about his hat trick before he left but he was hopeless that match and could have easily been subbed after a pathetic first 60 minutes.
It would not be unreasonable to lump Patterson, Obafemi and Whittaker in the same group of players who are not willing to fit into our club. Move on. |  | | |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 15:56 - Jan 17 with 3429 views | max936 |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:43 - Jan 17 by nantywatcher |
a) No-one in the stadium rated Gyorkes - he was nigh on useless down here.
b) I get a feeling its more to do with the relationship between Whittaker and the managers rather than not rate him. People keep going on about his hat trick before he left but he was hopeless that match and could have easily been subbed after a pathetic first 60 minutes.
It would not be unreasonable to lump Patterson, Obafemi and Whittaker in the same group of players who are not willing to fit into our club. Move on. |
I get the feeling that Whittaker doesn't feel Martin has the confidence in him and I think Martin could be the type that if your face doesn't fit you're out sort of thing, I think somin like that happened to Piroe, but to Piroe's credit it seems like he rose above that knuckled down and the rest is history.
I'd imagine Whittaker's head has dropped several notches since he's been back, especially with Martin stating publicly that he's well down the pecking order, even after the promise that he's shown at Plymouth.
Think Martin wants Ogbene, like he wanted Fisher and look at how that's turned out, similar as Darling in some respects, although Darling does look a player.
I'm just surmising here, I don't know what's actually gone on or what is going on of course.
At the end of the day my feeling would be to Martin and get him up tp speed, he's proved he can do it, he's quick skill ful and can score goals, Perfect Fit. [Post edited 17 Jan 2023 15:58]
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 16:52 - Jan 17 with 3305 views | swan_si |
Everything I'm reading about Wittaker is how many goals he's scored, not that I know, but I'm guessing Martin wants players to give Everything on the pitch, by that I mean without the ball as well as with it, again I think, when Oli was given a run in the starting 11 it showed how little effort Patterson made, people were slating Martin for not picking Oko Flex, again great going forward willing to take people on, but without the ball he'd make the odd token gesture of closing players down, but no real effort to chase back, same can be said about Liam Cullen when he was given his opportunity, people slated Martin for having him in the squad and bringing him on as sub, I think his effort and commitment earned him is starting place and he's gone on to repay the managers trust by adding goals to his willingness to give everything for the Swans, goals are what we all want to see, but sometimes the roar and applause can be just as load when a player is seen to make a GENUINE effort to win the ball back, or put in a committed tackle. Maybe this is what Russ wants in a player. |  | | |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 17:43 - Jan 17 with 3236 views | max936 |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 16:52 - Jan 17 by swan_si |
Everything I'm reading about Wittaker is how many goals he's scored, not that I know, but I'm guessing Martin wants players to give Everything on the pitch, by that I mean without the ball as well as with it, again I think, when Oli was given a run in the starting 11 it showed how little effort Patterson made, people were slating Martin for not picking Oko Flex, again great going forward willing to take people on, but without the ball he'd make the odd token gesture of closing players down, but no real effort to chase back, same can be said about Liam Cullen when he was given his opportunity, people slated Martin for having him in the squad and bringing him on as sub, I think his effort and commitment earned him is starting place and he's gone on to repay the managers trust by adding goals to his willingness to give everything for the Swans, goals are what we all want to see, but sometimes the roar and applause can be just as load when a player is seen to make a GENUINE effort to win the ball back, or put in a committed tackle. Maybe this is what Russ wants in a player. |
Goals win the games and the difference between Morgan and who Martin wants to replace him with doesn't seem to find the net often, Morgan has had some very good assists as well, I'm not putting this on Martin though, its the owners doing this, they've pulled the rug from under Martin this window and some.
Negotiations were apparently well underway for a couple of players, including Ogbene, but they've been stopped reading between the lines. | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 18:02 - Jan 17 with 3193 views | swan_si |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 17:43 - Jan 17 by max936 |
Goals win the games and the difference between Morgan and who Martin wants to replace him with doesn't seem to find the net often, Morgan has had some very good assists as well, I'm not putting this on Martin though, its the owners doing this, they've pulled the rug from under Martin this window and some.
Negotiations were apparently well underway for a couple of players, including Ogbene, but they've been stopped reading between the lines. |
I'm aware that goals win games, I'm also aware that defending from the front also helps prevent conceding goals, with our recent history of defending, I think we need everyone to put a genuine shift in, that includes our forward players, its the norm that goal scourers get the plaudits ahead of a good defensive display because as you say goals win games, but without a good defensive display most goals mean nothing.
Only my opinion obviously.  | | | |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:38 - Jan 21 with 2963 views | KeithHaynes |
Yes, back for Whittaker. | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:55 - Jan 21 with 2917 views | Flashberryjack |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:43 - Jan 17 by nantywatcher |
a) No-one in the stadium rated Gyorkes - he was nigh on useless down here.
b) I get a feeling its more to do with the relationship between Whittaker and the managers rather than not rate him. People keep going on about his hat trick before he left but he was hopeless that match and could have easily been subbed after a pathetic first 60 minutes.
It would not be unreasonable to lump Patterson, Obafemi and Whittaker in the same group of players who are not willing to fit into our club. Move on. |
I rated Gyorkes, just saying. |  |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:26 - Jan 21 with 2783 views | jojaca |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:55 - Jan 21 by Flashberryjack |
I rated Gyorkes, just saying. |
He didn't really play much for us. |  |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 22:04 - Jan 21 with 2661 views | pencoedjack |
Genuine question who are Martins signings?
Fisher
Darling
Wood
Sorinola
Anyone else? |  | | |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 08:26 - Jan 22 with 2528 views | jack247 |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 22:04 - Jan 21 by pencoedjack |
Genuine question who are Martins signings?
Fisher
Darling
Wood
Sorinola
Anyone else? |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 11:08 - Jan 22 with 2417 views | Fireboy2 |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:55 - Jan 21 by Flashberryjack |
I rated Gyorkes, just saying. |
So did I, he never got a fair crack of the whip flash
Now we both have been justified 😠|  | | |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 18:32 - Jan 24 with 2162 views | Smallmawl |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:26 - Jan 21 by jojaca |
He didn't really play much for us. |
To me a manger with such a rigid
Opinion of what works and what doesn't is crippling us. If injury hadn't forced him to play Fulton he would have been frozen out and moved on. Again with the back 3 and Fisher being the first choice, his insistence with playing from the back. These views he has have been costly, and its the situation that has dictated change not him.
To me this is a situation is probably going to come back to bite us. There has to be something about the kid if Rangers are interested. But what do we we do now we have possibly 3 plays who are being paid and will not play, or he will not play going forward. | | | |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:00 - Jan 24 with 2110 views | KeithHaynes |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:55 - Jan 21 by Flashberryjack |
I rated Gyorkes, just saying. |
Cooper completely mismanaged him and excluded him from the team every week.
Destroyed his confidence and his return to Coventry was shocking.
Replace Cooper with Martin. | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:07 - Jan 24 with 2068 views | onehunglow |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:00 - Jan 24 by KeithHaynes |
Cooper completely mismanaged him and excluded him from the team every week.
Destroyed his confidence and his return to Coventry was shocking.
Replace Cooper with Martin. |
I agree with you.
I was not a Cooperfan either
Ugly too | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:11 - Jan 24 with 2066 views | KeithHaynes |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:07 - Jan 24 by onehunglow |
I agree with you.
I was not a Cooperfan either
Ugly too |
I preferred the dapper Paul Clement, problem was he wasn’t a manager either. | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:13 - Jan 24 with 2058 views | Flashberryjack |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 08:26 - Jan 22 by jack247 |
Downes |
1 out of 5 is that good ? | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:16 - Jan 24 with 2045 views | KeithHaynes |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:13 - Jan 24 by Flashberryjack |
1 out of 5 is that good ? |
Darling ? | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 21:08 - Jan 24 with 1921 views | Flashberryjack |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:16 - Jan 24 by KeithHaynes |
Darling ? |
Jury is out.
Personally, I think he'll come good. | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 21:17 - Jan 24 with 1897 views | vetchonian |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:16 - Jan 24 by KeithHaynes |
Darling ? |
I not sure Darling will progress whilst he is great bringing the ball forward from defence he is crap defending in the air...he fails to challenge his man ....watch the highlights back.....MKDons did us there....there werent other clubs queuing up for him unlike O Reilly | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 21:54 - Jan 24 with 1834 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 14:43 - Jan 17 by nantywatcher |
a) No-one in the stadium rated Gyorkes - he was nigh on useless down here.
b) I get a feeling its more to do with the relationship between Whittaker and the managers rather than not rate him. People keep going on about his hat trick before he left but he was hopeless that match and could have easily been subbed after a pathetic first 60 minutes.
It would not be unreasonable to lump Patterson, Obafemi and Whittaker in the same group of players who are not willing to fit into our club. Move on. |
Thanks for saving me the typing. |  |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 21:57 - Jan 24 with 1827 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 11:08 - Jan 22 by Fireboy2 |
So did I, he never got a fair crack of the whip flash
Now we both have been justified 😠|
Show me your comments at the time telling the forum your thoughts on him, or anyone else’s for that matter.
He was God awful that season and he continued to be so at Coventry to barely started him.
He came good this season, not last season. That’s what happens sometimes with young players. | |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 23:06 - Jan 24 with 1747 views | Badlands |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 21:17 - Jan 24 by vetchonian |
I not sure Darling will progress whilst he is great bringing the ball forward from defence he is crap defending in the air...he fails to challenge his man ....watch the highlights back.....MKDons did us there....there werent other clubs queuing up for him unlike O Reilly |
Darling is older than Cababgo as it Lati as was Rodon when he trabsfered.
While I expect a 23 yo to improve his technique the football brain is pretty much set. |  |
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| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 07:05 - Jan 25 with 1650 views | jack247 |
| Glasgow Rangers back for Whittaker on 19:13 - Jan 24 by Flashberryjack |
1 out of 5 is that good ? |
If you’re classing Darling and Wood as failures, I think that’s very harsh.
Sorinola is on loan, though Martin did say he’d have liked to have brought him in permanently. We overpaid for Fisher, given that he’s good with his feet, but Benda is better at pretty much every other aspect of goalkeeping.
Our owners have already admitted they want him to bring players in and sell them for a profit. I doubt they’ll look at it as 1 in 5 or 3 in 5, they’ll look at it as what they’ve spent in transfers, fees, wages versus what they’ve sold Downes for and the potential value of the others.
I don’t look at it that way personally, but to me it’s a football club, to them it’s a business. | | | |
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