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Two city rugby 08:03 - Aug 10 with 18301 viewsWhiterockin

Are the WRU looking to go to two regions, one in Swansea one in Cardiff. Scarlets seem to think it is on the cards as local politicians are objecting to St Helens development, although they have a new sponsorship deal.

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Two city rugby on 19:55 - Dec 16 with 1186 viewsWhiterockin

Two city rugby on 19:50 - Dec 16 by max936

It'll be the making or breaking of some of these Welsh boys, hopefully the making and Wales could benefit massively.


It can only be good for Wales, the standard of regional rugby is quite poor.
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Two city rugby on 20:03 - Dec 16 with 1166 viewsRhonddaSwans

Two city rugby on 11:05 - Aug 10 by union_jack

I’m not a Scarlets supporter but to eliminate a presence at the top level in what is a very enthusiastic area steeped with history is mind blowing. Their supporters are not going to support a Swansea based team purely on grounds of principle.

Likewise, to dissolve the Ospreys or a Swansea based club is equally senseless. No Swansea based supporter will go to Parc y Scarlets for a ‘home’ game. And as a large city, it wouldn’t make sense for one of the two sides to be based here.

The WRU have royally effed up and are now having to make some very unpopular decisions.

They should be going all out to be part of an Anglo Welsh league though why the well supported, successful English clubs would want the Welsh sides is open to debate. I do believe it would raise attendance and interest to all sides if it were to happen though.


They done it to Ponty and Bridgend no problem .
I was Ponty through and through and could never support the blues.
They assumed we would all migrate around the time.

We were winning the prem title a few years ago to the chant I will never be a blue .
Awesome moment tbh .

I worked stewarding at parc y scarlets their fans are passionate.
What will happen to the ground there?
Way too nice to become abandoned?

The ospreys not having a ground it’s written in the stars.
Another chunk of Wales will not be producing players. The Valleys pipe line is now gone that have given wales some of the finest talent ever.
Same for Swansea such a shame.
With Neath and Swansea being the big boys back in the day .
Welsh rugby is a dumpster fire

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Two city rugby on 20:10 - Dec 16 with 1155 viewsmax936

Two city rugby on 20:03 - Dec 16 by RhonddaSwans

They done it to Ponty and Bridgend no problem .
I was Ponty through and through and could never support the blues.
They assumed we would all migrate around the time.

We were winning the prem title a few years ago to the chant I will never be a blue .
Awesome moment tbh .

I worked stewarding at parc y scarlets their fans are passionate.
What will happen to the ground there?
Way too nice to become abandoned?

The ospreys not having a ground it’s written in the stars.
Another chunk of Wales will not be producing players. The Valleys pipe line is now gone that have given wales some of the finest talent ever.
Same for Swansea such a shame.
With Neath and Swansea being the big boys back in the day .
Welsh rugby is a dumpster fire


It was mostly Neath, Ponty and Llanelli back in the day before regions, Swansea was up there, but those three were the main top feeders, I followed Neath back in those days and I'm Swansea born, but living in Neath and still here unfortunately.

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Two city rugby on 21:24 - Dec 16 with 1129 viewsmajorraglan

Two city rugby on 18:55 - Dec 16 by EagleEye

Of course Jamie Roberts will not speak against it, firstly he is from Cardiff, and isn’t he on the WRU board as some kind of non executive director ? I’d have thought someone like AWJ would have had something to say but he is apparently up the for the £160kpa Technical Director position. The silence from recent ex pro players & coaches from the Ospreys region is deafening.

As already stated the people in charge do not understand the game or history of rugby in Wales. This new lot at the WRU are addressing the whole issue from the top down trying to justify all their decisions on business actions. Whereas they should be serving the sport of rugby in Wales from the bottom up. Nothing like a solid foundation to work from, but they just don’t want to see it. They haven’t learnt from the loss of opportunity of regional rugby. They have already alienated & lost Pontypridd & the Rhondda, they have lost most of the Gwent valleys & now they will lose a huge mass of the country from Bridgend to Swansea. Clueless doesn’t begin to cover it
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Jamie Toberts is now training to be a doctor, but you are right he’s a non executive director at the WRU. Can’t comment on AWJ and the job other than to say I’ve nothing against him but surely he should be cutting his teeth in coaching set up instead of just stepping in to this role.

Shaun Holley, Fox Davies and I think it was Alex Cuthbert were talking about this in a recent edition of Scrum V, if you have 1/2 hour to spare watch it on BBC iPlayer. TBH I think Holley would be a good shout as technical director, but I think he’s too much his own man to toe the the line at the WRU.

Agree with your comments about the WRU alienating supporters, I’ve no intention of going to watch Wales play in the 6 nations going forward.
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Two city rugby on 22:34 - Dec 16 with 1100 viewsEagleEye

Two city rugby on 21:24 - Dec 16 by majorraglan

Jamie Toberts is now training to be a doctor, but you are right he’s a non executive director at the WRU. Can’t comment on AWJ and the job other than to say I’ve nothing against him but surely he should be cutting his teeth in coaching set up instead of just stepping in to this role.

Shaun Holley, Fox Davies and I think it was Alex Cuthbert were talking about this in a recent edition of Scrum V, if you have 1/2 hour to spare watch it on BBC iPlayer. TBH I think Holley would be a good shout as technical director, but I think he’s too much his own man to toe the the line at the WRU.

Agree with your comments about the WRU alienating supporters, I’ve no intention of going to watch Wales play in the 6 nations going forward.


I have watched the Scrum V that you mentioned. Sean Holley did open up a little bit, Jonathan Davies was a bit more reserved. I sensed that both were biting their lip a bit being very careful what they said. ‘Don’t bite the hand that feeds’ is an expression that comes to mind. Many ex players are still making a living out of their rugby connections and they don’t want to mess that up by being outspoken
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Two city rugby on 23:29 - Dec 16 with 1080 viewsjack_lord

Two city rugby on 16:56 - Dec 16 by max936

In won't stop watching Wales, but I won't be watching any regional rugby if when Osprey are disbanded, I can see a long drawn out legal battle over it all if I'm honest, which won't do Welsh rugby any good at all.

Brought about by administrators from over the bridge who have no idea on how Welsh rugby works and just how Jamie Roberts can come out and support this is baffling to me, I'd hate to think that it's because of self interest because he works for the WRU.
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Steve, I just feel that if first class rugby is stolen from this area then I don't want to be a part of it.
I remember as a kid going to St Helens, Stradey Park and the Gnoll and seeing the likes of Mervyn Davies, Phil Bennett JJ Williams and the grounds were regularly full (well it seemed like they were). I have watched Australia and New Zealand at St Helens and it was fantastic, especially the 1992 win. So to see the suits packing up our heritage I just can't follow the "National Team" that they don't want us to be part of.

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Two city rugby on 01:21 - Dec 17 with 1062 viewsRobbie

My late departed dad had some tickets available via a Neef legend who was his Manager at that time to see Wales at the Arms Park , lets go Wales v Scotland and looking back that famous Gareth Edwards try in the mud which even now I use You Tube to watch back .

Have I watched Wales in the 6 Nations since them great days , no way .

A big money making exercise which will alienate the true fan of Rugby .
Beer sales are more important these days and money talks more than player skills .

Jac Morgan and Dewi Lake have got out of it , and good luck to them too .
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Two city rugby on 09:32 - Dec 19 with 933 viewsRhonddaSwans

Two city rugby on 20:10 - Dec 16 by max936

It was mostly Neath, Ponty and Llanelli back in the day before regions, Swansea was up there, but those three were the main top feeders, I followed Neath back in those days and I'm Swansea born, but living in Neath and still here unfortunately.


Neath use to be a cracking match Shane Williams playing for you every week in the prem there would be internationals playing.
The regional game never translated into having passion for the team.
Unfortunately the wru couldn’t see that telling supporters you now support this team oh aiy also your home games will now all be in Bridgend or Swansea wasn’t going to work out.
The grand slams really papered over the cracks of a house falling apart from the foundations.
The new generation not getting to see the very best playing their home town. The passion from the stands was never replicated anywhere across the regions other than the scarlets of course.
But that is only due to them just being traditional Llanelli with a new name.

I can’t wait to see how the scrapped regions fans take it.
Bet the you are living in the past thing will be forgotten about .
BTW it should be the dragons that are axed as they have always been crap.

The only team that is safe is Cardiff sad really isn’t it mate .

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Two city rugby on 11:29 - Dec 19 with 907 viewsYrAlarch

Two city rugby on 01:21 - Dec 17 by Robbie

My late departed dad had some tickets available via a Neef legend who was his Manager at that time to see Wales at the Arms Park , lets go Wales v Scotland and looking back that famous Gareth Edwards try in the mud which even now I use You Tube to watch back .

Have I watched Wales in the 6 Nations since them great days , no way .

A big money making exercise which will alienate the true fan of Rugby .
Beer sales are more important these days and money talks more than player skills .

Jac Morgan and Dewi Lake have got out of it , and good luck to them too .


Back in the 1960s there was a schoolboys enclosure for international matches at the Arms Park. If my memory serves me right the cost of a ticket was 5 shillings (25p).
Could you imagine the WRU doing something like that these days!
I know we are in a different, professional era but it seems that they are only interested in making money. No thought to the future generation of potential international players.
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Two city rugby on 11:43 - Dec 19 with 902 viewsunion_jack

The WRU are trying to fix the problem by adopting a top down approach which is an attempt at a quick fix that will not work. It needs a root and branch approach starting at grass roots level and working their way up. That takes time and more importantly the wherewithal that they don’t have. So in their quest for being hailed the saviours of Welsh rugby they are alienating a large chunk of rugby supporters whoever they decide to axe.

But to paraphrase Kevin Keegan, I’d love it, really love it if The Ospreys joined The Premiership 😂😂

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Two city rugby on 12:00 - Dec 19 with 894 viewsbuilthjack

Crowds of 3000 at regional games is awful.
Then you get the cowboy hat wearers at the internationals who never ever go to club or region games. But can afford to pay £100 for a ticket. They dont even know the rules.
Then you have the completely closed shop that is international rugby. The same 6 teams playing the same 5 games every spring. People are bored to tears. Get a 2nd division, and a 3rd division. Expand the game.
i used to love rugby. Now i wouldnt walk across the road to watch a Wales game.

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Two city rugby on 15:25 - Dec 19 with 859 viewsonehunglow

Two city rugby on 23:29 - Dec 16 by jack_lord

Steve, I just feel that if first class rugby is stolen from this area then I don't want to be a part of it.
I remember as a kid going to St Helens, Stradey Park and the Gnoll and seeing the likes of Mervyn Davies, Phil Bennett JJ Williams and the grounds were regularly full (well it seemed like they were). I have watched Australia and New Zealand at St Helens and it was fantastic, especially the 1992 win. So to see the suits packing up our heritage I just can't follow the "National Team" that they don't want us to be part of.


were you around for the South Africa game,the St Helens war game

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Two city rugby on 15:29 - Dec 19 with 858 viewsonehunglow

Two city rugby on 12:00 - Dec 19 by builthjack

Crowds of 3000 at regional games is awful.
Then you get the cowboy hat wearers at the internationals who never ever go to club or region games. But can afford to pay £100 for a ticket. They dont even know the rules.
Then you have the completely closed shop that is international rugby. The same 6 teams playing the same 5 games every spring. People are bored to tears. Get a 2nd division, and a 3rd division. Expand the game.
i used to love rugby. Now i wouldnt walk across the road to watch a Wales game.


Well," I support the boys.
Its something I read often.
total shite of course
Rugby is dying on its feet in Wales ,so much so that Saffas and Kiwis and England actually feel sorry for us.
That's the dying legacy of WRU
Looking at the anti eggers though,they will be chuffed to bits

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Two city rugby on 23:17 - Dec 19 with 797 viewsmajorraglan

I really dislike the Scarlets but I really really really dislike Cardiff and am pleased that the men from the west put one over on the WRU’s precious Cardiff.
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Two city rugby on 09:03 - Dec 24 with 654 viewsWhiterockin

The WRU miss the December deadline but reiterate there will be three regions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/ru
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Two city rugby on 10:20 - Dec 24 with 624 viewsYrAlarch

Two city rugby on 09:03 - Dec 24 by Whiterockin

The WRU miss the December deadline but reiterate there will be three regions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/ru


Constant delays. Hardly a sign of a dynamic, forward thinking organisation.
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Two city rugby on 19:52 - Dec 26 with 519 viewsmax936

Good win for the Ospreys at Scarlets safternoon pity the O's let them have the last word and a losing bonus point though.

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Two city rugby on 20:09 - Dec 26 with 507 viewsWhiterockin

Two city rugby on 19:52 - Dec 26 by max936

Good win for the Ospreys at Scarlets safternoon pity the O's let them have the last word and a losing bonus point though.


Cracking game and a well deserved win. If there isn't another derby at least we went out with a win.
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Two city rugby on 20:17 - Dec 26 with 500 viewsGwyn737

Two city rugby on 20:09 - Dec 26 by Whiterockin

Cracking game and a well deserved win. If there isn't another derby at least we went out with a win.


Great win. Very frustrated at the reffing, mind.
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Two city rugby on 20:21 - Dec 26 with 497 viewsWhiterockin

Two city rugby on 20:17 - Dec 26 by Gwyn737

Great win. Very frustrated at the reffing, mind.


I thought it should have been a straight red at the end.
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Two city rugby on 20:22 - Dec 26 with 495 viewsmax936

Two city rugby on 20:09 - Dec 26 by Whiterockin

Cracking game and a well deserved win. If there isn't another derby at least we went out with a win.


6 wins out of the last 7 for the O's in this fixture Harri Deaves is a monster of a No7 fairplay.

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Two city rugby on 20:25 - Dec 26 with 490 viewsmax936

Two city rugby on 20:21 - Dec 26 by Whiterockin

I thought it should have been a straight red at the end.


Their last try should have been chalked off and at least a yellow card issued for Scarlet player charging into the ruck and smashing in to Walsh's head, he knew what he was doing.

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Two city rugby on 20:50 - Dec 26 with 482 viewsGwyn737

Two city rugby on 20:09 - Dec 26 by Whiterockin

Cracking game and a well deserved win. If there isn't another derby at least we went out with a win.


Great win. Very frustrated at the reffing, mind.
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Two city rugby on 00:32 - Dec 28 with 379 viewsRhonddaSwans

Pontypridd Boxing Day game local derby had a crowd of over 5k

The scarlets played Glasgow in nov and had a crowd of 3k.
The wru are tone deaf.

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Two city rugby on 08:45 - Dec 28 with 312 viewsWhiterockin

Two city rugby on 00:32 - Dec 28 by RhonddaSwans

Pontypridd Boxing Day game local derby had a crowd of over 5k

The scarlets played Glasgow in nov and had a crowd of 3k.
The wru are tone deaf.


The recent Scarlets v Ospreys match had an attendance of 12,000 they used to sell out. We all know that regional rugby is in a mess but the WRU are going the wrong way about resolving the issues. Lose regional identity and the "name" players and the crowds will never return.
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