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Look, I'm not a narc, I support decriminalisation, and I don't want to put a dampener on the day, but my word. The flagrant and open usage of gear at the game yesterday was jaw dropping.
And I work in advertising.
I went to the loo during the long injury break and was surprised to find the packed toilets were full of people not going for a wee, instead people openly snffing from bags
Saw 2 QPR fans fighting as we got in, both visibily charged up
Saw a few lads really looking quite worse for wear and in bad ways
Lads in front of us, oldest 18 max spent the whole first half ringing one of their Dads to come and meet them. Dad arrives and starts dishing out the packet onto their fists and they start sniffing in the stands and vaping relentlessly
I'm not an idiot. I know it's endemic in the UK and would the same in any away end, but the openness, brazenness and volume of consumption really caught me off guard yesterday.
Haha that's classic. I couldn't imagine tripping at a football match. It might just make those dull QPR games more interesting, lol.
I've done magic 🍄 3 times in the last calander year. Life changing full stop. The war on drugs from the US absolutely killed what potentials we would now have in front of us for helping our mental states in a variety of what are now Class A drugs. Heroine and 🍄 should never be spoken about in the same class of substance. I did a lot of research on how I could improve my own mental health and came across Magic 🍄 and I am absolutely astounded in the magic of their existence. It really is like pulling the veil off on why we exist and I always find I come out of the other side of it feeling much better about life in general and I'm now not afraid of death like I used to be.
Big bug advocate on them. Educate yourselves if you are having a hard time mentally. It's not for everyone but for the majority it definitely will be.
Done 'em a few times when I was younger. Gotta say I didn't have the best time! Suspect I am/was too uptight to be able to let go properly
Also recalled last night, late after the game in one of the breweries a very wide eyed young man in a Rangers scarf inserted himself into our conversation and his opening gambit was "I grew up on a council estate but now I part own QPR cos I made loads on crypto". Helluva drug eh
Ironically I realised I had a mushroom chocolate bar in my bag as we were going through the many searches.
Wasn’t quite the occasion for it mind you, but pleased that all the dogs and minimum wage lads didn’t spot it. Mushrooms at the right time and in moderation are superb anti-depressants IMO, something a lot of people need, and they grow in Richmond Park every year.
Great post Tony, like a lot of people on here I suppose, I’ve partaken and been around coke over the years but glad it never took hold on me.
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Mushroom chocolate bars? Are they really a thing?
How might one get hold of these? Asking for a friend, of course.
Haha that's classic. I couldn't imagine tripping at a football match. It might just make those dull QPR games more interesting, lol.
I've done magic 🍄 3 times in the last calander year. Life changing full stop. The war on drugs from the US absolutely killed what potentials we would now have in front of us for helping our mental states in a variety of what are now Class A drugs. Heroine and 🍄 should never be spoken about in the same class of substance. I did a lot of research on how I could improve my own mental health and came across Magic 🍄 and I am absolutely astounded in the magic of their existence. It really is like pulling the veil off on why we exist and I always find I come out of the other side of it feeling much better about life in general and I'm now not afraid of death like I used to be.
Big bug advocate on them. Educate yourselves if you are having a hard time mentally. It's not for everyone but for the majority it definitely will be.
I've taking a fair variety of substances, and totally agree that some are much easier to make a case for (psychedelics) than others (coke, alcohol).
Totally agree about how life changing psychedelics can be. I've taken LSD three times, and all three occasions made powerful impressions on me. The first time, I found myself laughing at myself for how cliched it was that I was absolutely fascinated by the intricacies of a flower growing by the road outside my front door - flower power indeed.
I remember reading about how Bill Hicks and his friends made a yearly pilgrimage to a farm one of them owned, where they would spend the weekend taking mushrooms. They would fast before hand, then spend a day meditating etc - treating it as a sacred event. Seems like the right approach to me - not as something trivial and recreational.
On the clinical application, there is definitely growing recognition of the potential. I was following it quite closely for a while. I think there are still significant barriers, especially in the US, but psychedelic-assisted therapy is definitely coming. A friend of mine is a clinical psychologist, and is a big advocate. He makes the point though that the evidence shows that psychedelic-assisted therapy is a shorter process than traditional therapy and traditional psychopharmacology - and so likely to face resistance from e.g. the pharmaceutical companies.
The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman describes the research he did in to DMT - and how he managed to get it past the regulatory barriers at time. It's fascinating stuff - and really leaves you hoping further research can be done.
On DMT - if you've got 18 minutes to spare I just love this comedy sketch. Stick with it until the end if you have time, it's got an amazing pay off!
"I remember reading about how Bill Hicks and his friends made a yearly pilgrimage to a farm one of them owned, where they would spend the weekend taking mushrooms."
I recall he drew particular amusement from mushrooms growing out of cow dung.
"I remember reading about how Bill Hicks and his friends made a yearly pilgrimage to a farm one of them owned, where they would spend the weekend taking mushrooms."
I recall he drew particular amusement from mushrooms growing out of cow dung.
Bill Hicks, even after all these years, still my favourite comedian. Such a tragic loss...
Great post. For example my father has / had bladder cancer and needs to pee often. That’s difficult enough at LR but for a time had a bag which can be embarrassing. So he would choose to go in a cubicle. I expect there are many like him . I also accept that there will be a fair few on cocaine . Coming from the underground music scene of the last 30 years I have been around a lot of bad substances . At one stage almost everyone I knew was doing drugs recreationally which when I look back is just awful. You were an outlier if you declined. I look back now and hold them people to higher regard. Good for them . I also look back on the Covid vaccines argument from the time , and whatever your argument or view point was / is , it seemed hugely hypocritical to me that the same people who were putting ‘stuff up their noses for the past 30 years with god knows what in it every weekend, argued they weren’t going to get a vaccine because “ you don’t know what they put in it”.
Conversely, the powers that be who tell us drugs are bad (they are) were the same people who ordered everybody to take the completely untested COVID vaccine with no idea of the consequences to our health.
Conversely, the powers that be who tell us drugs are bad (they are) were the same people who ordered everybody to take the completely untested COVID vaccine with no idea of the consequences to our health.
Really don't want to go down this rabbit hole for Clive's benefit but whilst I understand the thought behind that, at the time this all happened I was talking to my friends daughter who was a nurse at the Royal Free and she said all vaccines have a base (think of it like a pizza base) and then the 'toppings' are added to make it into the vaccine that was required. They're not just a bunch of ingredients chucked into a petrie dish and hope for the best.
Funny how the was a huge anti-vax and anti-mask movement in the US but suddenly there are now all these fukkers running around in cosplay army uniforms all masked up.
Conversely, the powers that be who tell us drugs are bad (they are) were the same people who ordered everybody to take the completely untested COVID vaccine with no idea of the consequences to our health.
Fortunately the vaccine was incredibly successful. And no one was ordered to take it, it was voluntary.
Had some fab times in late teens/early twenties with the old mushroom tea, freshly picked on Weston Green in Thames Ditton early Autumn. But as with everything - moderation moderation moderation! Knew a few that seriously overdid it, had bad times and became somewhat unhinged as a result.
Bill Hicks, even after all these years, still my favourite comedian. Such a tragic loss...
My old username - fishdrivingcars - was taken from his sketch about being pulled over whilst tripping.
"Cops don't appreciate fish driving around... They frown on that"
I went through a deeply obsessive Bill Hicks stage in my 20s. Absolutely idolised him! I must have watched the Sane Man videos on the old Sacred Cow website thousands of times. The Dominion Theatre recording that was popular is good, but those smaller gigs when he was younger and more combatant are the real shit.
I've taking a fair variety of substances, and totally agree that some are much easier to make a case for (psychedelics) than others (coke, alcohol).
Totally agree about how life changing psychedelics can be. I've taken LSD three times, and all three occasions made powerful impressions on me. The first time, I found myself laughing at myself for how cliched it was that I was absolutely fascinated by the intricacies of a flower growing by the road outside my front door - flower power indeed.
I remember reading about how Bill Hicks and his friends made a yearly pilgrimage to a farm one of them owned, where they would spend the weekend taking mushrooms. They would fast before hand, then spend a day meditating etc - treating it as a sacred event. Seems like the right approach to me - not as something trivial and recreational.
On the clinical application, there is definitely growing recognition of the potential. I was following it quite closely for a while. I think there are still significant barriers, especially in the US, but psychedelic-assisted therapy is definitely coming. A friend of mine is a clinical psychologist, and is a big advocate. He makes the point though that the evidence shows that psychedelic-assisted therapy is a shorter process than traditional therapy and traditional psychopharmacology - and so likely to face resistance from e.g. the pharmaceutical companies.
The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman describes the research he did in to DMT - and how he managed to get it past the regulatory barriers at time. It's fascinating stuff - and really leaves you hoping further research can be done.
On DMT - if you've got 18 minutes to spare I just love this comedy sketch. Stick with it until the end if you have time, it's got an amazing pay off!
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That 3rd paragraph rings absolutely true. If you want a spiritual journey it's not a substance you take with your mates down at the pub. Set and setting is absolutely crucial as to how your mental state will be affected while doing it.
I'd absolutely love to try LSD, no idea how I'd get it out here in New Zealand. I love the visuals that 🍄 gives and I've heard LSD is acutely visual.
Yeah it's been refreshing that western medicine is finally catching up and it's being used as an alternative. Plants are literally our saviour in a variety of ways.
They say our brains actually harden as we get older and we have evolved as a species alongside 🍄 as when taken they elasticate the neurons in our brains like when we were children again. It makes total sense on how we have evolved into an intelligent species when there are plants that give us insights and use parts of the brain that have been dormant for centuries.
That 3rd paragraph rings absolutely true. If you want a spiritual journey it's not a substance you take with your mates down at the pub. Set and setting is absolutely crucial as to how your mental state will be affected while doing it.
I'd absolutely love to try LSD, no idea how I'd get it out here in New Zealand. I love the visuals that 🍄 gives and I've heard LSD is acutely visual.
Yeah it's been refreshing that western medicine is finally catching up and it's being used as an alternative. Plants are literally our saviour in a variety of ways.
They say our brains actually harden as we get older and we have evolved as a species alongside 🍄 as when taken they elasticate the neurons in our brains like when we were children again. It makes total sense on how we have evolved into an intelligent species when there are plants that give us insights and use parts of the brain that have been dormant for centuries.
I find the whole topic absolutely fascinating.
I'll check out that video, thanks for posting.
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Re visuals, yes my experience is that LSD is more visual than mushrooms.
Last time I took mushrooms was last summer. I was meeting someone that id been meeting online for about year, discussing a business venture. He's made his money in a previous venture, lives in a big old house, and had invited me and my wife round for a BBQ. I turned up, and immediately he gave me a handful of mushrooms. Ok then.
Problem was they kicked in just as we sat down to eat - and to my surprise his five kids and assorted grandchildren turned up. Not what I had anticipated .
Whilst this is going on, he decided it was the moment to really get down to business. As i was looking at him, with the sun behind him giving a weird blue hue to his face, he turned in to a smurf - but a smurf talking at me about AI in very intense way.
I had to excuse myself to go and take a moment in the toilet. Talk about set and setting.
Fortunately the vaccine was incredibly successful. And no one was ordered to take it, it was voluntary.
Agreed.
But I feel for those who do not take vaccines and then infect others, there should be some sort of justice for the victims of those disease carriers.
In the US, measles is spreading again due to idiots who are anti-vax. A small number of kids are now dying because parents think they know better than scientists with years of training and experience.
I also find people don't have the basics of what a Vaccine actually is. They think it's something that permanently changes your body against its natural state. This is not so.
Vaccines act as a training simulation for your immune system by introducing a dead version or component of a virus (like a protein or weakened strain) into your body. Which is why we often feel ill when receiving them.
This dead part of the virus (as it's a dead virus) tricks your immune system into believing it is under attack, triggering white blood cells to produce specific weapons called antibodies designed to kill it before it kills you.
Once the body does this, you have then trained your body to retain a memory of these antibodies (which is the natural state of our body); so, if you encounter the real virus or a near variant in the future, your immune system recognises it instantly and deploys its pre-trained antibodies to destroy the virus before it can make you sick and kill you. This is explained in many places.
Here is the part that is not widely explained.
If you don't do this, the risk is that the body develops antibodies that don't kill the virus. This takes time, so the body has to do it again and again, taking more time. In that time, the Virus could ravage your body and kill you. This is what Covid did to people: it killed them before their bodies could kill the virus. It also explains why some people only had mild flu symptoms (they were lucky their bodies recognised the virus and produced antibodies in time).
And it also explains why the vaccines are not 100% guranteed to stimulate the body to create the correct antibodies. The first one available had only about an 85% chance of doing this. That's why we had to have a second jab to reach 95%. There are no guarantees in science, only probabilities.
I prefer the higher probability chance of 95% for surviving a nasty virus to crossing my fingers and hoping for the best, not to mention we need like 85% of the population vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. I don't like death, thanks.
So, in short, they do not mutate you in any way; instead, they train your own body to defend itself. It's training and practice for your body to defeat the real virus should it encounter it.
But I feel for those who do not take vaccines and then infect others, there should be some sort of justice for the victims of those disease carriers.
In the US, measles is spreading again due to idiots who are anti-vax. A small number of kids are now dying because parents think they know better than scientists with years of training and experience.
I also find people don't have the basics of what a Vaccine actually is. They think it's something that permanently changes your body against its natural state. This is not so.
Vaccines act as a training simulation for your immune system by introducing a dead version or component of a virus (like a protein or weakened strain) into your body. Which is why we often feel ill when receiving them.
This dead part of the virus (as it's a dead virus) tricks your immune system into believing it is under attack, triggering white blood cells to produce specific weapons called antibodies designed to kill it before it kills you.
Once the body does this, you have then trained your body to retain a memory of these antibodies (which is the natural state of our body); so, if you encounter the real virus or a near variant in the future, your immune system recognises it instantly and deploys its pre-trained antibodies to destroy the virus before it can make you sick and kill you. This is explained in many places.
Here is the part that is not widely explained.
If you don't do this, the risk is that the body develops antibodies that don't kill the virus. This takes time, so the body has to do it again and again, taking more time. In that time, the Virus could ravage your body and kill you. This is what Covid did to people: it killed them before their bodies could kill the virus. It also explains why some people only had mild flu symptoms (they were lucky their bodies recognised the virus and produced antibodies in time).
And it also explains why the vaccines are not 100% guranteed to stimulate the body to create the correct antibodies. The first one available had only about an 85% chance of doing this. That's why we had to have a second jab to reach 95%. There are no guarantees in science, only probabilities.
I prefer the higher probability chance of 95% for surviving a nasty virus to crossing my fingers and hoping for the best, not to mention we need like 85% of the population vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. I don't like death, thanks.
So, in short, they do not mutate you in any way; instead, they train your own body to defend itself. It's training and practice for your body to defeat the real virus should it encounter it.
That's what a vaccine is.
The other thing about the measles virus is that those that contract it actually lose the ability to recognise other diseases they previously had antibodies for; the virus has the ability to undo our defences.
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