| Keir Starmer Speech On Now 10:09 - May 11 with 4090 views | SaintNick | How long has he left, will this save him |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 10:24 - May 11 with 3238 views | Butty101 | I didnt vote for any of the goons in the last election. However im genuinely disappointed with him as i thought he would be whiter than white. As ever lots of scandals follow and he dosent sack people until theres no other option. I dont think it really matters whos in as nothing changes - they cant grow the economy or build more houses or fix the NHS etc. I would rather he sees out the term to keep some stabililty |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 10:41 - May 11 with 3186 views | SaintNick |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 10:24 - May 11 by Butty101 | I didnt vote for any of the goons in the last election. However im genuinely disappointed with him as i thought he would be whiter than white. As ever lots of scandals follow and he dosent sack people until theres no other option. I dont think it really matters whos in as nothing changes - they cant grow the economy or build more houses or fix the NHS etc. I would rather he sees out the term to keep some stabililty |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 10:52 - May 11 with 3162 views | kingolaf | He’s dying on his arse, it’s quite unedifying. He’s got some cheerleaders in the room, clapping on demand. So embarrassing. |  | |  |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:14 - May 11 with 3142 views | dirk_doone | Andy Burnham is probably the only person who could have led Labour to victory at the next election and Starmer stopped him from becoming an MP. Starmer is dull and comes across as a bit of a drip, but I don't think he's corrupt. He just isn't cut out to withstand the inevitable onslaught from the right-wing media. The same people who voted for Brexit are voting for Reform now: just about the final nail in the coffin of this once great country. The end of the NHS, state pensions etc. and a decline into poverty. Government corruption will be off the charts. [Post edited 11 May 11:20]
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:33 - May 11 with 3079 views | Ninja9 |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:14 - May 11 by dirk_doone | Andy Burnham is probably the only person who could have led Labour to victory at the next election and Starmer stopped him from becoming an MP. Starmer is dull and comes across as a bit of a drip, but I don't think he's corrupt. He just isn't cut out to withstand the inevitable onslaught from the right-wing media. The same people who voted for Brexit are voting for Reform now: just about the final nail in the coffin of this once great country. The end of the NHS, state pensions etc. and a decline into poverty. Government corruption will be off the charts. [Post edited 11 May 11:20]
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Yes this once great country that has been destroyed by consecutive Left wing Governments . |  | |  |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:53 - May 11 with 3061 views | Bazza |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:14 - May 11 by dirk_doone | Andy Burnham is probably the only person who could have led Labour to victory at the next election and Starmer stopped him from becoming an MP. Starmer is dull and comes across as a bit of a drip, but I don't think he's corrupt. He just isn't cut out to withstand the inevitable onslaught from the right-wing media. The same people who voted for Brexit are voting for Reform now: just about the final nail in the coffin of this once great country. The end of the NHS, state pensions etc. and a decline into poverty. Government corruption will be off the charts. [Post edited 11 May 11:20]
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Some extreme comments amongst some fair notes. Starmer is more than a drip; he was slow to act on Mandelson after sneaking him to the USA job, slow to act on grooming gangs and still allows questionable actions by Miliband and is now recruiting two 75 year old has-beens to deflect from his poor actions. His major weakness is being bullied by far left to extreme welfare spending. The NHS has been sliding towards privatisation for years, state pensions without doubt will remain. Poverty will always remain as it defined by the calculation of those on lower than 60% of the median household income. |  | |  |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:56 - May 11 with 3037 views | SaintNick |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:14 - May 11 by dirk_doone | Andy Burnham is probably the only person who could have led Labour to victory at the next election and Starmer stopped him from becoming an MP. Starmer is dull and comes across as a bit of a drip, but I don't think he's corrupt. He just isn't cut out to withstand the inevitable onslaught from the right-wing media. The same people who voted for Brexit are voting for Reform now: just about the final nail in the coffin of this once great country. The end of the NHS, state pensions etc. and a decline into poverty. Government corruption will be off the charts. [Post edited 11 May 11:20]
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Government corruption has been off the charts for the last 20 years. The truth is the tail is wagging the dog, no one has any experience of running anything, not just in this government but the one before. In the old days you had career politicians on both sides of the house who knew how government & politics worked, now you have a load of chances. David Cameron was working for the Conservative party the moment he graduated from University, he at least had an inkling about how politics worked, he just wasn't very good at it.. since then it's been a load of chancers in charge, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, our own Rishi Sunak, none were career MP's. Keir Starmer is a lawyer and was head of the Crown Prosecution service hardly running a business. A look at his challengers does not inspire confidence, all like Starmer will make big claims they can never pull off. Andy Burnham - Perhaps the best candidate in terms of he has been in politics for over 30 years but he lost a couple of leadership campaigns and was shipped out to be mayor of Manchester, perhaps the best we could hope for if Starmer stands down. Angela Rayner,- Not a career politician, She has little experience in running anything let alone the country, already shown that money has gone to her head and a lack of respect for the law as was shown in two seperate attempts to avoid taxation on her houses. Wes Streeting, Another who made his way up through the unions no real experience of running anything. When you look at the other two main parties, the Greens is no longer about the ozone layer of hugging trees, it has been taken over by those who saw it as a quick way to get into parliament rather than forming a new party. Everyone knows about Nigel Farage. Truth is that this country is split across so many parties now, it will never get an overall victory for any of them. I truly despair whoever gets elected |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 12:03 - May 11 with 3004 views | yateleysaint |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:33 - May 11 by Ninja9 | Yes this once great country that has been destroyed by consecutive Left wing Governments . |
I’m gutted I missed all these left-wing governments. I must have been in a coma for 40 years without realising. |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 16:28 - May 11 with 2877 views | SalisburySaint |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 12:03 - May 11 by yateleysaint | I’m gutted I missed all these left-wing governments. I must have been in a coma for 40 years without realising. |
Bang on, same people fooled by lies regards Brexit, still being fooled by the Russian and Thai funded multi millionaire, who like Trump is only in it for himself, yet pretends to be a man of the people, whilst destabilising the country. Although I dislike Starmer, we would be better with someone else in charge, illegal immigration is actually failing and applications being processed has increased significantly and many have been deported and so numbers in hotels is falling, but don’t let facts get in the way of personal agendas For some reason this is not being widely reported in the British Media https://www.gov.uk/government/ [Post edited 11 May 16:58]
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 17:30 - May 11 with 2783 views | Heisenberg | Imagine any of these as your manager Boris Johnson - lying clown Liz Truss - Mad Keir Starmer - backstabbing bore with no backbone trying to be your mate. Add the endless unqualified MPs who have never done anything that qualifies them to be in the job and there is the problem. |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 17:47 - May 11 with 2752 views | Southamptonfan | If he goes, there will surely need to be a general election. |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 17:54 - May 11 with 2748 views | SalisburySaint |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 17:47 - May 11 by Southamptonfan | If he goes, there will surely need to be a general election. |
What like we did when Thatcher, Blair, May, Cameron, Johnson, Truss resigned ! [Post edited 11 May 17:57]
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 18:02 - May 11 with 2723 views | Southamptonfan |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 17:54 - May 11 by SalisburySaint | What like we did when Thatcher, Blair, May, Cameron, Johnson, Truss resigned ! [Post edited 11 May 17:57]
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And that's part of the terrible state of politics. Having people running the country that nobody has voted for, is just a soap opera. Starmer was elected, he should see out the term, and the people will give their verdict at the next election. These MP's that keep trying to go against their leader, bringing in the next one until they decide the next one isn't good enough, will just go round and round in circles. He's only been in for 2 years. He was the first Labour leader to be elected for 18 years. I notice Angela Raynor spouting off, but was happy to enjoy Starmer's landslide election 2 years ago as his deputy. Now, she is helping to get him removed. [Post edited 11 May 18:16]
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 18:36 - May 11 with 2637 views | Ninja9 |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 16:28 - May 11 by SalisburySaint | Bang on, same people fooled by lies regards Brexit, still being fooled by the Russian and Thai funded multi millionaire, who like Trump is only in it for himself, yet pretends to be a man of the people, whilst destabilising the country. Although I dislike Starmer, we would be better with someone else in charge, illegal immigration is actually failing and applications being processed has increased significantly and many have been deported and so numbers in hotels is falling, but don’t let facts get in the way of personal agendas For some reason this is not being widely reported in the British Media https://www.gov.uk/government/ [Post edited 11 May 16:58]
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Absolute Bollox . Wake up and smell the coffee . Oh and carry on watching MSM they always speak the truth . |  | |  |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 19:01 - May 11 with 2587 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 18:02 - May 11 by Southamptonfan | And that's part of the terrible state of politics. Having people running the country that nobody has voted for, is just a soap opera. Starmer was elected, he should see out the term, and the people will give their verdict at the next election. These MP's that keep trying to go against their leader, bringing in the next one until they decide the next one isn't good enough, will just go round and round in circles. He's only been in for 2 years. He was the first Labour leader to be elected for 18 years. I notice Angela Raynor spouting off, but was happy to enjoy Starmer's landslide election 2 years ago as his deputy. Now, she is helping to get him removed. [Post edited 11 May 18:16]
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Probem nowadays is that majority of politicians are in it for themselves rather than for the good of the country which is what they were elected for. And Starmer clearly had his own agenda which was away from their manifesto. He just cannot see that the majority simply does not trust him! |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 19:11 - May 11 with 2576 views | shotters | Didn't vote for him, didn't vote for anyone, but I wanted and still want him to succeed, if that happens then we as a country will all benefit. Just seems to be one bad decision and policy after another He's the English Jimmy Carter |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 20:59 - May 11 with 2487 views | saintmark1976 |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 18:02 - May 11 by Southamptonfan | And that's part of the terrible state of politics. Having people running the country that nobody has voted for, is just a soap opera. Starmer was elected, he should see out the term, and the people will give their verdict at the next election. These MP's that keep trying to go against their leader, bringing in the next one until they decide the next one isn't good enough, will just go round and round in circles. He's only been in for 2 years. He was the first Labour leader to be elected for 18 years. I notice Angela Raynor spouting off, but was happy to enjoy Starmer's landslide election 2 years ago as his deputy. Now, she is helping to get him removed. [Post edited 11 May 18:16]
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Spot on, as you usually are Southampton. Also, if people think that Andy Burnham is the answer then what on earth is the question. When there was last an election for leader of the Labour Party didn’t he finish fifth ? Of more concern to me is what will the Government Bond Market Vigilantes do in the current circumstances. Our economy is and has been for many years, supported by borrowed money. If they want a better return on their money due to political uncertainty there are only two ways of providing it, raise taxes or cut spending. Neither are very attractive. [Post edited 11 May 21:01]
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 22:07 - May 11 with 2420 views | shotters | Sky News reporting that Shabana Mahmood has called on him to resign, not a good look when the home secretary is telling him to go Fully expecting The Sun to have a picture of him as a sausage with the headline "Stick A Fork In It" tomorrow |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 22:07 - May 11 with 2417 views | Bazza |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 18:02 - May 11 by Southamptonfan | And that's part of the terrible state of politics. Having people running the country that nobody has voted for, is just a soap opera. Starmer was elected, he should see out the term, and the people will give their verdict at the next election. These MP's that keep trying to go against their leader, bringing in the next one until they decide the next one isn't good enough, will just go round and round in circles. He's only been in for 2 years. He was the first Labour leader to be elected for 18 years. I notice Angela Raynor spouting off, but was happy to enjoy Starmer's landslide election 2 years ago as his deputy. Now, she is helping to get him removed. [Post edited 11 May 18:16]
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Labour win was a landslide in seats but only a third of the votes went for Labour - due to the first past the post system. |  | |  |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 22:52 - May 11 with 2354 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 11:14 - May 11 by dirk_doone | Andy Burnham is probably the only person who could have led Labour to victory at the next election and Starmer stopped him from becoming an MP. Starmer is dull and comes across as a bit of a drip, but I don't think he's corrupt. He just isn't cut out to withstand the inevitable onslaught from the right-wing media. The same people who voted for Brexit are voting for Reform now: just about the final nail in the coffin of this once great country. The end of the NHS, state pensions etc. and a decline into poverty. Government corruption will be off the charts. [Post edited 11 May 11:20]
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I’m curious. It’s 2026 - could you pls define ‘right wing media’? |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 23:03 - May 11 with 2335 views | dirk_doone |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 22:52 - May 11 by Chesham_Saint | I’m curious. It’s 2026 - could you pls define ‘right wing media’? |
Daily Express, Daily Mail, Telegraph, GB News, Sky News, X and the Putin bots on social media.... Murdoch's News Corp/Fox Corporation and Putin exert enormous control over politics in the western world nowadays, especially online. [Post edited 11 May 23:10]
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 23:10 - May 11 with 2321 views | Jellybaby |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 22:07 - May 11 by Bazza | Labour win was a landslide in seats but only a third of the votes went for Labour - due to the first past the post system. |
It was called a landslide, but only 17% of the available electorate voted for him. |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 23:13 - May 11 with 2312 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 23:03 - May 11 by dirk_doone | Daily Express, Daily Mail, Telegraph, GB News, Sky News, X and the Putin bots on social media.... Murdoch's News Corp/Fox Corporation and Putin exert enormous control over politics in the western world nowadays, especially online. [Post edited 11 May 23:10]
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Sky? Versus quite an array of other outlets (putting aside the BBC) - Mirror, Guardian, Independent, Metro. My point being, there’s a lot more choice than there was back in the day. And the likes of Gen Zed don’t even go near the MSM. It’s unrecognisable from the days when the Sun kiboshed Kinnick for example. |  |
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| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 23:27 - May 11 with 2296 views | dirk_doone |
| Keir Starmer Speech On Now on 23:13 - May 11 by Chesham_Saint | Sky? Versus quite an array of other outlets (putting aside the BBC) - Mirror, Guardian, Independent, Metro. My point being, there’s a lot more choice than there was back in the day. And the likes of Gen Zed don’t even go near the MSM. It’s unrecognisable from the days when the Sun kiboshed Kinnick for example. |
I don't disagree with you. The Metro has certainly balanced things in London. I dislike Corbyn as much as I dislike Farage. I don't like extremists. They always damage countries. My point was that the right-wing media wage a relentless campaign against any Labour leader and Starmer hasn't been able to stand up to it. Andy Burnham might, if he gets the chance. He's a bit more charismatic and media-savvy. Being PM is a bit like being England football manager. You're under constant scrutiny and If you have any weakness, the media will find it and take you down. Of course, results count too and we haven't had positive results from any PM in this country for a very long time. [Post edited 12 May 0:55]
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