| Time to take EFL to court 12:15 - May 23 with 3094 views | robcoe5 |
Why haven’t we taken action against the EFL
The independent committee was biased
Every thing was to get Middlesbrough in the final
Saints should of been given time to get there case together and let the media frenzy calmed down
Middlesbrough should be taken to count for their action as they have sent out details effecting the case
Most people in football believe punishment was over the top
Why haven’t we heard from Dragon Solak surely a rich man would be taking on the EFL
At least we shouldn’t of got penalised twice ie 4 point deductions |  | | |  |
| Time to take EFL to court on 12:30 - May 23 with 3009 views | SanMarco |
Interesting question. So far since the appeal verdict Saints seem to have rolled over and said pour some more sh1te on us we deserve it.
The club's response from the start was pathetic. Legal action needed to happen before the stitch-up happened. I'm no great admirer of Cortese but he would have in court as soon as the 'independent' panel was announced. So would the appalling Gibson in reverse circumstances. Is not a little part of my/our current hatred of M'boro a sneaky jealously that they had an aggressive so-and-so who knew how to play the game and we had a lettuce left out in the sun for a month?
I don't see the club can do much legally now as they appear to have formally accepted the punishment (bar a bit of whining about it being harsh.) The big thing now is to make sure now that if lawsuits come from teams like Millwall, Wrexham and Hull (if they lose today) then we are lawyered up to show that their gripes are with the EFL. No-one at Saints thinks Mboro deserved reinstatement and the procedural flaws and dishonesty were down to the EFL-Mboro axis. Sue Gibson and the league, we've had our punishment. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 12:43 - May 23 with 2962 views | kentsouthampton |
LOL, that's some nuclear weapons grade state of denial.
"Why haven’t we taken action against the EFL "
Come on then Einstein where's the evidence? apart from a load of shyte posted on Facebook. [Post edited 23 May 12:44]
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| Time to take EFL to court on 12:54 - May 23 with 2938 views | robcoe5 |
So the panel was not biased towards Middlesbrough no connections in the past
Middlesbrough releasing information out to the media to stir up their case
Releasing details of will salt and card information all this should of been just presented to the case not the media
Saints not given time as per EFL rules 14 days [Post edited 23 May 13:03]
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| Time to take EFL to court on 13:13 - May 23 with 2879 views | kingolaf |
Dear oh dear. Get over it and move on.
We admitted cheating and were kicked out of a knockout competition.
That is it. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 13:21 - May 23 with 2856 views | dirk_doone |
| Time to take EFL to court on 12:43 - May 23 by kentsouthampton |
LOL, that's some nuclear weapons grade state of denial.
"Why haven’t we taken action against the EFL "
Come on then Einstein where's the evidence? apart from a load of shyte posted on Facebook. [Post edited 23 May 12:44]
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I see the the cheating liar from Portsmouth is still here. I expect you post a lot of shyte on Facebook as well. [Post edited 23 May 13:22]
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| Time to take EFL to court on 13:47 - May 23 with 2767 views | saint22 |
| Time to take EFL to court on 13:13 - May 23 by kingolaf |
Dear oh dear. Get over it and move on.
We admitted cheating and were kicked out of a knockout competition.
That is it. |
Agreed but why haven’t the clubbed sacked all involved that should have happened by now
Make a statement that we won’t tolerate this behaviour | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 13:52 - May 23 with 2741 views | kentsouthampton |
| Time to take EFL to court on 13:21 - May 23 by dirk_doone |
I see the the cheating liar from Portsmouth is still here. I expect you post a lot of shyte on Facebook as well. [Post edited 23 May 13:22]
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I'm not from there numbnuts, you have no clue who I am. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:07 - May 23 with 2692 views | dirk_doone |
| Time to take EFL to court on 13:52 - May 23 by kentsouthampton |
I'm not from there numbnuts, you have no clue who I am. |
If you're really not a Pompey fan, post: I am a Saints fan. | |
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| Time to take EFL to court on 14:23 - May 23 with 2644 views | Ifonly |
By all accounts, we have accepted:
- the rules of the competition
- the validity of the charges
- the process of the hearing and appeal
- the membership of the panel
- the timetable of the hearing and appeal
- our guilt on all charges
If so, we have exhausted the agreed process and now don't have a leg to stand on. Saying that we should take the EFL to court would be like a German saying that they should now appeal Geoff Hurst's goal in the 66 world cup, or England now appealing Frank Lampard's goal against Germany in 2006. Bad decisions or not, it's over, we have no legal basis to take it any further and now the club has to set about dealing with it. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:32 - May 23 with 2620 views | PatfromPoole |
Seems Hull are now threatening to sue them if they lose today…… |  |
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| Time to take EFL to court on 14:45 - May 23 with 2591 views | sledger |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:32 - May 23 by PatfromPoole |
Seems Hull are now threatening to sue them if they lose today…… |
of course they are,Wrexham going to stick their oar in as well,if they were going to kick us out it should have been done at the semi final stage,EFL what a bunch of to++ers they really are. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:55 - May 23 with 2565 views | UTS1885 |
The evidence submitted is overwhelming and thus, all it needed was box ticking. [Post edited 23 May 14:55]
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| Time to take EFL to court on 14:55 - May 23 with 2564 views | DorsetIan |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:32 - May 23 by PatfromPoole |
Seems Hull are now threatening to sue them if they lose today…… |
As they should.
Hull have been prejudiced by the very late change of opponent, and Boro, having absolutely bottled an automatic slot and been well beaten in the end in the semi, simply don’t deserve to be promoted. |  |
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| Time to take EFL to court on 15:03 - May 23 with 2537 views | DorsetIan |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:45 - May 23 by sledger |
of course they are,Wrexham going to stick their oar in as well,if they were going to kick us out it should have been done at the semi final stage,EFL what a bunch of to++ers they really are. |
As they should too.
Having kicked us out, a fair and pragmatic solution would have been a replayed semi-final between Wrexham and Boro.
All our infringements were before the play offs commenced. So by rights we shouldn’t have been in the play offs at all.
It’s really really convenient that that apparently meant Boro should progress.
Even if you say that you can only run the playoffs on the teams who qualify, that should still leave the 4 playoff teams being reduced to 3, with then no 4th placed team. Millwall (3) would then get a by to the final and Boro (now the next team) would play Hull for the other slot.
It completely stinks. | |
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| Time to take EFL to court on 15:06 - May 23 with 2526 views | solent_toffee |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:45 - May 23 by sledger |
of course they are,Wrexham going to stick their oar in as well,if they were going to kick us out it should have been done at the semi final stage,EFL what a bunch of to++ers they really are. |
Wrexham also have Shaun Harvey as their CEO who was the CEO of EFL and is very canny and will know everything there is to know about the processes involved. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 15:14 - May 23 with 2500 views | Ifonly |
| Time to take EFL to court on 15:03 - May 23 by DorsetIan |
As they should too.
Having kicked us out, a fair and pragmatic solution would have been a replayed semi-final between Wrexham and Boro.
All our infringements were before the play offs commenced. So by rights we shouldn’t have been in the play offs at all.
It’s really really convenient that that apparently meant Boro should progress.
Even if you say that you can only run the playoffs on the teams who qualify, that should still leave the 4 playoff teams being reduced to 3, with then no 4th placed team. Millwall (3) would then get a by to the final and Boro (now the next team) would play Hull for the other slot.
It completely stinks. |
After the sanctions applied to Saints, Wrexham still finished 7th. The 7th placed team doesn't qualify for the play-offs. End of. The only way that would change is if the EFL changed the rules in the middle of the competition, which is obviously impossible.
I don't like it any more than you, but Boro being there is within the rules of the competition. What they should have done, which is also within the rules, is to give Hull a bye. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 15:27 - May 23 with 2431 views | kentsouthampton |
| Time to take EFL to court on 14:07 - May 23 by dirk_doone |
If you're really not a Pompey fan, post: I am a Saints fan. |
I am a saints fan weirdo. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 15:47 - May 23 with 2372 views | dirk_doone |
| Time to take EFL to court on 15:27 - May 23 by kentsouthampton |
I am a saints fan weirdo. |
Gotcha. At least the last part of that statement is true. | |
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| Time to take EFL to court on 15:58 - May 23 with 2316 views | kentsouthampton |
| Time to take EFL to court on 15:47 - May 23 by dirk_doone |
Gotcha. At least the last part of that statement is true. |
It's all true I'm a saints fan and you're a full on stalkery weirdo. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 16:06 - May 23 with 2292 views | DorsetIan |
| Time to take EFL to court on 15:14 - May 23 by Ifonly |
After the sanctions applied to Saints, Wrexham still finished 7th. The 7th placed team doesn't qualify for the play-offs. End of. The only way that would change is if the EFL changed the rules in the middle of the competition, which is obviously impossible.
I don't like it any more than you, but Boro being there is within the rules of the competition. What they should have done, which is also within the rules, is to give Hull a bye. |
Don’t you think that bringing Wrexham back in would have been the fair and logical outcome?
They could have ensured that happened. Wouldn’t a 12 point penalty applied this season have had the result of Wrexham finishing 6th?
They chose the option which favoured Boro. | |
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| Time to take EFL to court on 16:42 - May 23 with 2233 views | Ifonly |
| Time to take EFL to court on 16:06 - May 23 by DorsetIan |
Don’t you think that bringing Wrexham back in would have been the fair and logical outcome?
They could have ensured that happened. Wouldn’t a 12 point penalty applied this season have had the result of Wrexham finishing 6th?
They chose the option which favoured Boro. |
Yes, they definitely chose an option that favoured Boro. They could have done what you suggest if the semi finals hadn't been played yet and that would be fair, as you say.
The problem is that the semi finals had already been played. Hull had already got through to the final and that creates massive problems with giving us a 12 point deduction for this season, because Hull (now 5th) had beaten Millwall (3rd). But the competition rules say that 3rd plays 6th, not 5th. So is that semi final now void and Hull have to play a semi again? If so, Hull would rightly be pissed off and sue the EFL. Or do they accept the Hull result and Wrexham play Boro? Well that's also against the rules and both Hull and Boro would be entitled to sue the EFL in that case.
Bascially, if we're eliminated with the semi finals already played, then the only options that don't create legal issues are either what is happening today, or Hull being declared the winners. I'm sure nobody would like the loss of revenue, but the only fair option was for Hull to have a bye. | | | |
| Time to take EFL to court on 00:56 - May 24 with 1965 views | SanMarco |
Ifonly is right on Wrexham. Saints would have needed to be docked points retospectively so they sank below Wrexham. That didnt happen so 7th place foes not a play off place make. It will next season though. | | | |
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