| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 10:50 - Jul 24 with 2636 views | arfurdent |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:07 - Jul 24 with 2610 views | WinchesterExile |
“Whoever did this seems to have no grasp on how football and supporting your team works” = Sport Republic |  | | |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:12 - Jul 24 with 2603 views | SaintNick |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:07 - Jul 24 by WinchesterExile |
“Whoever did this seems to have no grasp on how football and supporting your team works” = Sport Republic |
It is easy to blame everything on Sport Republic, but give them a chance, they dont set the ticket prices for the friendlies |  |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:32 - Jul 24 with 2556 views | Southamptonfan |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:12 - Jul 24 by SaintNick |
It is easy to blame everything on Sport Republic, but give them a chance, they dont set the ticket prices for the friendlies |
If I was owner and it was my club, I would instruct all my employees below me to make the tickets £5 for adults and £1 for kids. If those below me, tried to make them more expensive, I would overrule them and lecture them in how important it is to respect the fans. The owner is the ultimate boss. They would do as I tell them. I'm pretty sure any owner has the ultimate authority to do what he wants. [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 11:37]
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:48 - Jul 24 with 2525 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:12 - Jul 24 by SaintNick |
It is easy to blame everything on Sport Republic, but give them a chance, they dont set the ticket prices for the friendlies |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:56 - Jul 24 with 2508 views | Buggalugs |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:32 - Jul 24 by Southamptonfan |
If I was owner and it was my club, I would instruct all my employees below me to make the tickets £5 for adults and £1 for kids. If those below me, tried to make them more expensive, I would overrule them and lecture them in how important it is to respect the fans. The owner is the ultimate boss. They would do as I tell them. I'm pretty sure any owner has the ultimate authority to do what he wants. [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 11:37]
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I doubt the owner has a clue how much we charge for any matches on an individual basis...there will be layers of management below him with these sorts of responsibilities. We're not a small community club....you can't honestly expect Solak himself to get involved in shit like this. |  |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:57 - Jul 24 with 2502 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:56 - Jul 24 by Buggalugs |
I doubt the owner has a clue how much we charge for any matches on an individual basis...there will be layers of management below him with these sorts of responsibilities. We're not a small community club....you can't honestly expect Solak himself to get involved in shit like this. |
No but it is a Sport Republic issue.
If Tesco stop selling beer Nick would be saying we can't blame Tesco as the actual owners didn't make the decision themselves... | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:00 - Jul 24 with 2495 views | IanSouthstander |
In hindsight it would of been better playing this crowd behind closed doors , play Alkmaar midweek and make Benfica the star attraction on the saturday.
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:06 - Jul 24 with 2484 views | Southamptonfan |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:56 - Jul 24 by Buggalugs |
I doubt the owner has a clue how much we charge for any matches on an individual basis...there will be layers of management below him with these sorts of responsibilities. We're not a small community club....you can't honestly expect Solak himself to get involved in shit like this. |
The owner should get involved in all aspects of the club in my opinion. I bet Solak wished he got more involved with the decisions last season. Those below him, cost him millions. His money was spent on Mara, Onuachu, Jones, Selles and so on. If it was my millions, I would want a say in how it was spent and I would also not buy a club only to allow those below me to p!ss off my customers. The owner could and should be having a say on what is right for his customers and therefore his investment. [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 12:09]
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:20 - Jul 24 with 2456 views | SaintNick |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:57 - Jul 24 by saints__fan__73 |
No but it is a Sport Republic issue.
If Tesco stop selling beer Nick would be saying we can't blame Tesco as the actual owners didn't make the decision themselves... |
The Ceo of tesco doesnt rubber stamp every decision made by those under him, I doubt if he has any say in opening new stores for instance, I doubt if they ask him his views on whether they should put the aisle selling alcohol next to the one selling crisps, or what price they should sell those crisps for.
It is all a line manager basis and that is how football clubs are these days, the man who reports to Sport Republic last season was Martin Semmens, they got the shirt thing badly wrong last season, that didn't get Semmens sacked or leaving by mutual consent, but getting relegated did, despite the fact that he never picked a team or kicked a ball. | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:23 - Jul 24 with 2447 views | Southamptonfan |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:20 - Jul 24 by SaintNick |
The Ceo of tesco doesnt rubber stamp every decision made by those under him, I doubt if he has any say in opening new stores for instance, I doubt if they ask him his views on whether they should put the aisle selling alcohol next to the one selling crisps, or what price they should sell those crisps for.
It is all a line manager basis and that is how football clubs are these days, the man who reports to Sport Republic last season was Martin Semmens, they got the shirt thing badly wrong last season, that didn't get Semmens sacked or leaving by mutual consent, but getting relegated did, despite the fact that he never picked a team or kicked a ball. |
But Solak could have intervened in the decisions last season. After losing millions, possible over hundred million, I bet he wishes he did. | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:25 - Jul 24 with 2445 views | SaintNick |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:06 - Jul 24 by Southamptonfan |
The owner should get involved in all aspects of the club in my opinion. I bet Solak wished he got more involved with the decisions last season. Those below him, cost him millions. His money was spent on Mara, Onuachu, Jones, Selles and so on. If it was my millions, I would want a say in how it was spent and I would also not buy a club only to allow those below me to p!ss off my customers. The owner could and should be having a say on what is right for his customers and therefore his investment. [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 12:09]
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How can an owner get involved in all the aspects of the club, it is just physically impossible and the fans would be the first to get on his back and telling him to stop mucking about in selecting the shirt design or lawnmower brand and get on with making sure we were signing good players.
It is all line manager basis, last season Semmens paid the price for those below him and now new people are in place.
Most football club owners do not know their customers, they don't live locally, in some cases theyy don't even attend matches, so how does the owner know what the fans want and dont want, the owners job is to put in a good CEO who knows what he is doing and then it all should spread out from there. | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:31 - Jul 24 with 2432 views | Southamptonfan |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:25 - Jul 24 by SaintNick |
How can an owner get involved in all the aspects of the club, it is just physically impossible and the fans would be the first to get on his back and telling him to stop mucking about in selecting the shirt design or lawnmower brand and get on with making sure we were signing good players.
It is all line manager basis, last season Semmens paid the price for those below him and now new people are in place.
Most football club owners do not know their customers, they don't live locally, in some cases theyy don't even attend matches, so how does the owner know what the fans want and dont want, the owners job is to put in a good CEO who knows what he is doing and then it all should spread out from there. |
Put it this way, if you invested 200 million pounds of your own money into Saints, would you have allowed those below you to not get an experienced centre back, knowing that doing so would have probably protected your investment? If it was me, I would have insisted that we bought an experienced centre back and a decent striker. I would get involved in things like this, of I knew not doing so would lose hundreds of millions. | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:53 - Jul 24 with 2406 views | SaintNick |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:31 - Jul 24 by Southamptonfan |
Put it this way, if you invested 200 million pounds of your own money into Saints, would you have allowed those below you to not get an experienced centre back, knowing that doing so would have probably protected your investment? If it was me, I would have insisted that we bought an experienced centre back and a decent striker. I would get involved in things like this, of I knew not doing so would lose hundreds of millions. |
Most owners have never played football at a professional level, most CEO's of supermarkets have never worked at the checkout or in a supermarket.
When Rupert Lowe allegedly got involved in selecting players to buy, he was roundly lambasted by the fan base for interfering in something he knew nothing about.
So are you suggesting that Dragam Solak a man who had never had any experience in running anything other than a media company, should have insisted that we but certain players and got involved in selecting them ?
I am sure that Solak would have been speaking to Rasmus Ankersen, the man in the company responsible for overseeing the entire operation and i'm sure they were trying to sign someone
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 13:33 - Jul 24 with 2345 views | Southamptonfan |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 12:53 - Jul 24 by SaintNick |
Most owners have never played football at a professional level, most CEO's of supermarkets have never worked at the checkout or in a supermarket.
When Rupert Lowe allegedly got involved in selecting players to buy, he was roundly lambasted by the fan base for interfering in something he knew nothing about.
So are you suggesting that Dragam Solak a man who had never had any experience in running anything other than a media company, should have insisted that we but certain players and got involved in selecting them ?
I am sure that Solak would have been speaking to Rasmus Ankersen, the man in the company responsible for overseeing the entire operation and i'm sure they were trying to sign someone
Wanting players is one thing, signing them is another |
I guess I'm reminiscing about a time when owners of football clubs did it because they loved football and loved their club. Jack Walker was the owner when Blackburn won the title. He must have driven that personally. Bloom at Brighton runs the club really well and personally takes decisions, same as the Palace owner. Ted Bates was great.
Yes, many of today's owners probably don't have any clue about football and the team's fans and what they want. They just delegate to a load of people to run the club. If the owner of our club had no clue that we needed an experienced defender and has no clue that we don't really want to watch 5000 Bournemouth fans celebrating and goading in the Northam, and neither do the people he has employed, then no I don't like it.
I'd prefer an owner who loves Saints, knows Saints, knows its fans and employs people below him, with that in mind. I also question whether an owner who has no clue about football actually knows who to employ below him. If I took on a dance company, I wouldn't have a clue who to employ to make it work. The owner of a football club should have some love for the game and his club in my opinion. [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 13:42]
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 13:49 - Jul 24 with 2326 views | WinchesterExile |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:12 - Jul 24 by SaintNick |
It is easy to blame everything on Sport Republic, but give them a chance, they dont set the ticket prices for the friendlies |
I get your point but SR made some terrible mistakes last year and are starting on minus 10 in terms of fan approval. So until they get a fair few decisions right they are (rightly in my view) going to be under a very powerful microscope which includes decisions around this ridiculous friendly. Whilst nobody died, it just doesn’t reflect a club that knows what it’s doing and is in touch with its fans. Make that minus 11 then!
Finally don’t forget that Kraft and Ankerson fulfil executive positions at the club as well as being part of SR so they are directly in the firing line for most decisions because if they haven’t made the decision themselves they manage the people that do and are therefore as accountable. | | | |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 13:59 - Jul 24 with 2313 views | SaintNick |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 13:33 - Jul 24 by Southamptonfan |
I guess I'm reminiscing about a time when owners of football clubs did it because they loved football and loved their club. Jack Walker was the owner when Blackburn won the title. He must have driven that personally. Bloom at Brighton runs the club really well and personally takes decisions, same as the Palace owner. Ted Bates was great.
Yes, many of today's owners probably don't have any clue about football and the team's fans and what they want. They just delegate to a load of people to run the club. If the owner of our club had no clue that we needed an experienced defender and has no clue that we don't really want to watch 5000 Bournemouth fans celebrating and goading in the Northam, and neither do the people he has employed, then no I don't like it.
I'd prefer an owner who loves Saints, knows Saints, knows its fans and employs people below him, with that in mind. I also question whether an owner who has no clue about football actually knows who to employ below him. If I took on a dance company, I wouldn't have a clue who to employ to make it work. The owner of a football club should have some love for the game and his club in my opinion. [Post edited 24 Jul 2023 13:42]
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I am genuinely interested in your views here and you are right you are harking back to a time long gone and impossible to go back to now.
Ted Bates was never an owner of Southampton football club, he was on the board as club president, indeed Bates was of the first generation of football managers who refused to let the owners of clubs run the playing side, he Bill Shankly, Brian Clough and a host of others invented football managers as they used to be, in the 50's the board picked the team and the manager just coached them, those men changed all that.
The savvy owners who bought the clubs they supported got in those that could and did not meddle, Jack Walker was very much an example of that.
You are right with Tony Bloom at Brighton and to a degree Parrish at Palace, although now although he is Chairman I don't think he is the majority owner anymore, there are 3 a americans with the majority stake.
Your last paragraph is interesting and yes you are right I think we would all prefer that, but the fact is that doesn't exist much anymore, as i said perhaps Brighton & Palace are the last two clubs in and around the Premier League where you can say that.
Look at all of the big clubs, none of them actually have any connection with the club or city before they bought it and none of them really know anything about football.
It is fair to say the owners of Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle & Manchester United all fall into the above category, yet they have still prospered over the Premier League era,
In fact of the big 7 only Spurs have a British owner and they have won barely anything in the time he has been in charge, | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 14:16 - Jul 24 with 2298 views | Southamptonfan |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 13:59 - Jul 24 by SaintNick |
I am genuinely interested in your views here and you are right you are harking back to a time long gone and impossible to go back to now.
Ted Bates was never an owner of Southampton football club, he was on the board as club president, indeed Bates was of the first generation of football managers who refused to let the owners of clubs run the playing side, he Bill Shankly, Brian Clough and a host of others invented football managers as they used to be, in the 50's the board picked the team and the manager just coached them, those men changed all that.
The savvy owners who bought the clubs they supported got in those that could and did not meddle, Jack Walker was very much an example of that.
You are right with Tony Bloom at Brighton and to a degree Parrish at Palace, although now although he is Chairman I don't think he is the majority owner anymore, there are 3 a americans with the majority stake.
Your last paragraph is interesting and yes you are right I think we would all prefer that, but the fact is that doesn't exist much anymore, as i said perhaps Brighton & Palace are the last two clubs in and around the Premier League where you can say that.
Look at all of the big clubs, none of them actually have any connection with the club or city before they bought it and none of them really know anything about football.
It is fair to say the owners of Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle & Manchester United all fall into the above category, yet they have still prospered over the Premier League era,
In fact of the big 7 only Spurs have a British owner and they have won barely anything in the time he has been in charge, |
If we arn't going to have a multi billionaire owner who is going to bankroll success for fun, affiliated or not (like at the big clubs), then I would much rather have a hands-on owner, who loves my club, understands the fan base, loves football and isn't there to carry out experiments with my club to try and make money for themselves. But I can wish all I like can't I...... | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 21:10 - Jul 24 with 2077 views | UTS1885 |
Embarrassing the club even arranged it. |  | | |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 10:12 - Jul 25 with 1774 views | SFC_Referee |
Anyone know if they’re streaming the game again? And if so are they gonna be charging people for that as well |  |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 10:28 - Jul 25 with 1755 views | Southamptonfan |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 10:12 - Jul 25 by SFC_Referee |
Anyone know if they’re streaming the game again? And if so are they gonna be charging people for that as well |
Yes, they are streaming it live for £5. | |
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| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 11:43 - Jul 25 with 1721 views | SFC_Referee |
| Saints Supporters Boycott Bournemouth Friendly In Their Thousands on 10:28 - Jul 25 by Southamptonfan |
Yes, they are streaming it live for £5. |
Still charging £5 for the game!? Well that’s just ridiculous, but ain’t exactly a surprise with everything that’s happened recently with all these friendlies and such | |
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