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CEO Phil Parsons Praises Loyalty Of Southampton Supporters.
by SaintPaulVW at 18:56:50

Loyalty is always a two way street. Not sure I have really seen anything being given back. If the fan base wasn't so loyal, perhaps something would have been?
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CEO Phil Parsons Praises Loyalty Of Southampton Supporters.
by WestSussexSaint at 18:55:07

Tonda might have been architect in chief of the act but the way the club handled the fallout was shameful. They recruited a bunch of lawyers who hopefully have since been disbarred for all the good they did and failed miserably in getting on top of the public story. I feel that this was a major contributory factor in the severity of the punishment.

Tonda’s best way to forgiveness is to get his team playing well and winning which, for the most part, he is achieving. Parson’s and the club haven’t really done much yet to recover from their part in this mess.
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Could Southampton Look To Repeat Managerial Solution Of January 2000
by WestSussexSaint at 18:44:47

This all assumes Tonda getting a lengthy (6months?) total football ban. While I didn’t really like Parson’s “I don’t know” answer to the question about contingency planning it would be a dereliction of his duty to not have plans for various scenarios including one like this article suggests. Even if he isn’t prepared to disclose them publicly.
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CEO Phil Parsons Praises Loyalty Of Southampton Supporters.
by bstokesaint at 13:30:11

I think the club missed a chance to repay the loyalty to the fans for those who forked out money on season tickets and for the playoffs. How many of those fans would have paid to watch in the knowledge all of the games were effectively friendlies. A nice gesture would have been to offer generously discounted tickets.
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CEO Phil Parsons Praises Loyalty Of Southampton Supporters.
by saintmark1976 at 12:17:12

Great pity that the loyalty of the fans wasn’t reciprocated by the Club in at least refunding it’s supporters the cost of match tickets for what due to the Club’s stupidity was an end of season dead rubber.
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Could Southampton Look To Repeat Managerial Solution Of January 2000
by Bowlercow at 12:11:31

The return of SAF
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by TimSaint at 11:27:38

If you are going to blame Peretz for the winning goal, you also need to blame Larin and Azaz for their piss poor finishing. Goals change games. If we had gone in at HT at least 2 goals to the good, the game is totally different and they were great chances that had to be put away.
Schlot is making a few errors every game at the moment. Perhaps he is still finding his feet in our team, having been thrown in at the deep end.
Edozie actually blocked JWP's first shot on goal. Luckily the rebound fell to him so he could score. Would have preferred Dobbin or Fellows, as Edozie doesn't want to be here, wanted to hand in a transfer request and will probably leave in January.
We are much slower than last season.
Hopefully things will gel and improve once all the spy gate stuff has been announced.
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Could Southampton Look To Repeat Managerial Solution Of January 2000
by SaintPaulVW at 10:39:08

Pep In!
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by SaintPaulVW at 10:36:43

ItchenNorth - fair points. I agree 100% that we are going to definitely need to add an experienced head upfront in January.
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by bryanK at 19:29:29

After watching the opening 4 away games there is something missing from the whole setup this season.
We can talk about spygate, selling Charles and Harwood-Bellis as factors but with the squad we have I can only think the mentality of the players is not right.
Defensively we are brittle and will continue to leak goals until there is a change in personnel in my view.
However, as previous mentioned this is only part of the bigger picture. I sincerely hope matters away from St Mary’s improve otherwise it maybe a disappointing season
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by ItchenNorth at 19:02:13

SaintPaulVW - I hear your point and agree, but let's not forget it's a long season and with the January transfer window to come. This time last year we were struggling with no consistent goalscorer and a big issue in the keeper position, yet in January we signed Larin and Peretz. Stewart didn't want to be here and when that happens there's little a club can do in that situation, especially if a player (might of) used Spygate as leverage for a move as well.
We for sure though need strengthening up top come January.
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by Colburn at 18:43:07

And why the hell are we playing in all blue? Idiots decision that kit..
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by Colburn at 18:41:39

We have a weak mentality, start games slowly giving the oppo confidence and we’re devoid of options up top. Ballard decision was a shocker. Agree that Manning is a home player and Wellington a far better defender. Also agree that Bree is not putting in a shift but Roerslev is really poor and also lightweight. Robinson is far better than Edozie who doesn’t even want to be here so that decision baffles me..
I disagree about Ward Prowse as we are now too slow and lightweight in midfield, he is a signing which suggests we’re not going up. Oh and Jander will be ready next week.. for the 10th time..
We are far weaker as a squad and as individuals this season and Eckert makes poor personnel decisions.
Hence we are winless on the road heading into October. We’ve gone backwards without a doubt.
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Tonda Eckert Asks For Forgiveness As Final Judgement On Spygate Looms
by saintmark1976 at 18:36:51

Thanks for the compliment Bowler.

If my working career hadn’t ended many years ago I may well of taken your kind advice.
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Tonda Eckert Asks For Forgiveness As Final Judgement On Spygate Looms
by Bowlercow at 16:56:15

San Marco you really don't think that taking away a golden opportunity from a young upcoming coach wasn't punishment enough
I must Speech to a different brand of neutrals because everyone I have spoken to believes that Tonda,the club and most importantly us the fans have already received a punishment that was WELL OTT
Saint mark with theories like that you should seriously consider a career in journalism
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by Farlow at 16:53:57

I,m afraid Manning cant defend should play Wellington away from home.The most annoying thing is Jay Robinson doing well in Italy and we keep Edozie who is far too ineffective.Would have tried Abbot up against Moore cause of his height.
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Tonda Eckert Asks For Forgiveness As Final Judgement On Spygate Looms
by saintmark1976 at 14:46:36

In my opinion, I don’t necessarily disagree with you SanMarco and wonder whether they simply couldn’t/can’t sack him.

Why? Because I never subscribed to the idea that at the time those above Tonda were unaware of what was going on. To use an old expression ( used originally by Lyndon Johnson when he was the president of the U S A ), “ its better to have disgruntled people inside the tent pissing out rather than outside the tent pissing in”.

If Tonda knows where some skeletons are buried, it’s far better from the owners point of view to back him, see what the punishment is and if necessary fail to renew his contract when it expires, I believe in a years time.
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Tonda Eckert Asks For Forgiveness As Final Judgement On Spygate Looms
by richardmdcooper at 14:08:23

Their comments seem totally at odds with the suggestion that they know what the punishment already is. I'm not sure I buy those rumours that everyone involved already knows - it would have been leaked to the media already.

A suspended sentence and fine would surely be the most sensible punishment but I have no faith in the FA. Even using the female Canada manager as a precedent, it was a 1 year suspension but only 3 competitive matches in that 1 year!
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by SaintPaulVW at 13:06:39

I think we are going to really regret letting Stewart go. His fitness was being managed and he gave a good option to hold the ball up or knock a goal in the last 20 minutes. Given how he was playing, failing to exercise the option for the additional year well before the end of the season was a total cock up.
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Southampton V Wrexham The Verdict
by andoverpierre at 12:42:58

we cant seem to stop the crosses coming in Bree is not as good as last season and manning gets caught ball watching too often , why hasnt Roarslev got a look in is he injured or has he fell out with Tonda , noticed he played for under 21s last week . Larin look knackered , we recruited badly with Mbama doesnt seem to have any pace , control looks average , and for a big lad cant put himself about. we have gone with cheap kids again along with the forest lad , saints never learn . thank god prowse came back or else we would be in right mess with Janders longterm injury that was just a niggle ????
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