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SaintBrock added 21:48 - Aug 19
Tedious, scrappy affair spoilt by incessant stoppages for fouls, injuries and players squaring up to each other. What was obvious is that we do not have the players to work Pellegrino's preferred style of fast forward attacking play. We were outclassed in the air at the back and in their penalty area and for pace today and one or two players had stinkers.

Redmond was poor apart from his early assist that flattered to deceive, otherwise Zabaletta had him in his pocket all afternoon. How can he be preferred over Boufal is beyond me. Bertrand just couldn't be rrsed to get up to speed, in fact he looked hacked off all afternoon and clearly wasn't concentrating on his job for their first goal. Cedric was getting a right battering from the ex-Stoke thug who was sent off and didn't seem to settle after that.

Yoshida, Tadic and Romeu were our best and most determined players and Forster had a decent game.

Too much whistle from the ref who just seemed to want to intervene even on robust but otherwise fair tackles. The lino called the red card incident and both pens.

aceofthebase added 22:35 - Aug 19
SaintBrock that's a fair description of the game and players performances. The only point is I saw no evidence of 'Pellegrinos preferred style of fast forward attacking'. That is maybe what the fans want to see but we saw a slow build-up again and again, sideways backwards and then exasperation as they face a perfectly organised defence.

sidsaint added 07:59 - Aug 20
Typical game against the hammers who lived up to their name. Noble should also have been sent off and we were lucky that Jack's hand ball wasn't penalised. Disappointed so far after 2 games with Redmond and Bertrand who are off the boil compared to last season. Gabby tries to find the gaps Cedric's shooting is dire and I wish we had a poacher like Fernandes. Can't see much evidence of high pressing game but some nice football played in the build up. All in all 6 out of ten so far. Interested in team selection for Wednesday.

SaintNick added 10:21 - Aug 20
If you are going to press high up the field and commit players to attack then you have to be confident of being able to defend against teams that can come at you at sped on the counter, can we say we are confident of that at the moment ?

Lemina in the side will help that and get Hoedt in and it will make a big difference, get Van Dijk in as well and we will be a decent side

Consigliere added 10:26 - Aug 20
In my view, the way to analyse this game is to first consider the situation if we hadn't been given a penalty award in the last moments of the game.

Had that been the scenario then I suspect that the conclusion would have been exactly as SaintBrock and Ace have set out, namely that far too much side passing and allowing the other side to reorganise their defence whilst we tried this way and that to get through the wall had cost us the game. This was never going to work against a big, physical and pretty dirty team like W Ham especially with their ever present threat on the counter with Antonio. There is no point in playing pretty football (and there is no doubt, some of it was easy on the eye) if you don't open up the other side's defence.

Even so, there were still a few glimmers of light towards the latter part of the second half especially after Long came on, with some racy attacks down the flanks and a more direct style, but it took the efforts of Yoshida (who I noticed went up front several times in the last 10 minutes to try to boost the attack) to get us over the line. A bit of a soft penalty but that is hardly the point, he and JWP combined to make the sort of direct attack that should have unlocked this game (against 10 men) a lot sooner.

larry12 added 11:58 - Aug 20
Shiite lineup to start. Davis is now not good enough even for the bench.
No midfield as ad infinitum. Dreary borefest. Redmond, Tadic dog awful. Clasie and Hojberg ARE better than Mr Plod and Davis and Pelligreno is a moron for not seeing that. Stephens was constantly ball watching and is therefore not good enough to start at all. Yoshida doing the job of the forwards. Cedric shoots and misses til 2050. Saints do not get that pass quite right by 3000 times. Need 3 more Lemina's. As said Bertrand? I hope Cedric and Bertrand end up at Chelsea. At least Plug and Mcqueen try. Compared with that rubbish yesterday, I am looking forward to hitting my little toe against some furniture.

RogerToye added 16:52 - Aug 20
should put games to bed however scored more than we shipped

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