| Tory cronyism 17:26 - Apr 14 with 3496 views | Nortbankboy |
When are people going to wake up to what's happening?
If they got nothing to hide let's have a proper
Independent inquiries.
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| Tory cronyism on 17:32 - Apr 14 with 2632 views | Catullus |
If there was a proper inquiry, who is going to do it? Labour don't want one any more than the tories!
Cronies, lobbying, jobs for the "boys" access for money, they are all at it and the whole place stinks. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 18:07 - Apr 14 with 2610 views | felixstowe_jack |
We are having an independent enquiry do you not pay attention to the news?
Are we going to have an independent enquiry into the Union funding of the Labour Party. The unions select the Labour leader as well as paying for some Labour MPs.
It is not as if Tony Blair and Gordon Brown slipped away into a private retirement. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 18:12 - Apr 14 with 2595 views | onehunglow |
Only in it means Torie get a pasting.
Labour beyond reproach innit
Frankly,another anti Tory thread.
Class war | |
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| Tory cronyism on 18:32 - Apr 14 with 2593 views | Fireboy2 |
| Tory cronyism on 18:07 - Apr 14 by felixstowe_jack |
We are having an independent enquiry do you not pay attention to the news?
Are we going to have an independent enquiry into the Union funding of the Labour Party. The unions select the Labour leader as well as paying for some Labour MPs.
It is not as if Tony Blair and Gordon Brown slipped away into a private retirement. |
So the millionaire business people to give millions to the tories don't get any favours, yeah right.
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| Tory cronyism on 18:57 - Apr 14 with 2584 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Tory cronyism on 18:32 - Apr 14 by Fireboy2 |
So the millionaire business people to give millions to the tories don't get any favours, yeah right.
Take your blue tinted specs off. |
That is not what I said . I just pointed out it was a bit rich labour supporters creating a big fuss.
Business always approach the government in power to lobby for legislation that suits them . It is part of politics. Unions lobby the labour party.
Anyone who does not think it goes on must have led a very sheltered life.
Even the public can lobby the government by signing petitions, that once they have enough signatures have to be debated in parliament.
The other method of trying to influence the government is protest marches which often depend into a violent riot. Extinction rebellion black lives matter to name just a couple of recent ones. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 19:13 - Apr 14 with 2575 views | Catullus |
| Tory cronyism on 18:07 - Apr 14 by felixstowe_jack |
We are having an independent enquiry do you not pay attention to the news?
Are we going to have an independent enquiry into the Union funding of the Labour Party. The unions select the Labour leader as well as paying for some Labour MPs.
It is not as if Tony Blair and Gordon Brown slipped away into a private retirement. |
Yes there's an inquiry but what will they find? It won't change a thing, like I said, nobody really wants it because this particular swamp runs deep and murky.
It's well past time that political parties were centrally funded, no unions or rich individuals buying governments. They should all get exactly the same tv/media time, the same amount for advertising, as long as they put up a minimum number of candidates. Smaller partirs and individuals should need to make a properly audited claim against central funds.
I know we end up paying from our taxes but tis' better than the money men and union bigwigs gaining sway. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 20:11 - Apr 14 with 2545 views | swan65split |
The older I get the more Politicians and parties turn me sick.
They have ruined many a life , and the Country. |  | | |
| Tory cronyism on 20:19 - Apr 14 with 2528 views | Fireboy2 |
| Tory cronyism on 18:57 - Apr 14 by felixstowe_jack |
That is not what I said . I just pointed out it was a bit rich labour supporters creating a big fuss.
Business always approach the government in power to lobby for legislation that suits them . It is part of politics. Unions lobby the labour party.
Anyone who does not think it goes on must have led a very sheltered life.
Even the public can lobby the government by signing petitions, that once they have enough signatures have to be debated in parliament.
The other method of trying to influence the government is protest marches which often depend into a violent riot. Extinction rebellion black lives matter to name just a couple of recent ones. |
We plebs would still be paying the same amount of poll tax as the rich if there hadnt been the riot over it.
Sometimes you only get somewhere with a violent struggle, where does peaceful protest get you? | | | |
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| Tory cronyism on 20:48 - Apr 14 with 2508 views | onehunglow |
Suppose it's a shame the Brighton bomb was unsucessful.
Clearly,anyone should not vote conervative.Why? Because YOU say that in doing so is vile scum. And you call yourself democrats.
No wonder this country is fooked.
We have no unity as a country ,no national pride ,no moral fibre. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 20:58 - Apr 14 with 2500 views | builthjack |
Every time the Tories get found out, and that is often, you get the people on here blaming Labour.
Perch, I know you didn't like miners, or poor people. But give it a fcking rest. It's tedious. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Tory cronyism on 21:09 - Apr 14 with 2501 views | Nortbankboy |
We are not on about Labour any one else in the past.
We are talking about today's government.
The anglicized Jack's always try to turn around to labour.
Anyway I'm of to watch the programme on bent coppers. | | | |
| Tory cronyism on 21:27 - Apr 14 with 2493 views | jack_lord |
Why do the same faces always attack the Labour party rather than face the facts. We know they are politicians. We know politicians bend the word.
We should have some kind of saying that is used when the people roll out the baggage. |  |
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| Tory cronyism on 21:38 - Apr 14 with 2479 views | controversial_jack |
| Tory cronyism on 21:27 - Apr 14 by jack_lord |
Why do the same faces always attack the Labour party rather than face the facts. We know they are politicians. We know politicians bend the word.
We should have some kind of saying that is used when the people roll out the baggage. |
They are trying to deflect from the festering scum that they support | | | |
| Tory cronyism on 23:20 - Apr 14 with 2446 views | raynor94 |
And Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was whiter than white, and don't let's even go down the road of what the Labour Union Barons have got up too.
They are all the same, drunk on Power. |  |
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| Tory cronyism on 23:23 - Apr 14 with 2438 views | onehunglow |
| Tory cronyism on 23:20 - Apr 14 by raynor94 |
And Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was whiter than white, and don't let's even go down the road of what the Labour Union Barons have got up too.
They are all the same, drunk on Power. |
Indeed and how many led to their deaths in Iraq.
Still,the Good Friday agreement great PR for him and honest Bill Clint.
Len McCluskie. Is he a typical union leader ,all for the workers . At a modest salary. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 00:09 - Apr 15 with 2436 views | majorraglan |
There’s good and bad on all sides of the political divide and Labour, like the Conservatives have questions to answer, but the mud slinging on here isn’t helpful and there are issues to be addressed and questions to be answered.
What’s required is a full no nonsense transparent public enquiry in to what's taken place and then some stringent legislation to govern what takes place in future. Is that likely to happen - no way on earth because there are snouts in the trough. We will have an enquiry, but we’ll only get to know what they want us to know. There’s a lot of cynicism around the Grenfell enquiry!
It’s just like the PPE and Covid procurement scandals, there was a fast track e mail system in place for associates of the politicians, contacts and select others where their offers of help could have an inside track.
We need transparency, honesty and accountability, but we won’t get it. | | | |
| Tory cronyism on 18:01 - Apr 15 with 2357 views | Nortbankboy |
| Tory cronyism on 00:09 - Apr 15 by majorraglan |
There’s good and bad on all sides of the political divide and Labour, like the Conservatives have questions to answer, but the mud slinging on here isn’t helpful and there are issues to be addressed and questions to be answered.
What’s required is a full no nonsense transparent public enquiry in to what's taken place and then some stringent legislation to govern what takes place in future. Is that likely to happen - no way on earth because there are snouts in the trough. We will have an enquiry, but we’ll only get to know what they want us to know. There’s a lot of cynicism around the Grenfell enquiry!
It’s just like the PPE and Covid procurement scandals, there was a fast track e mail system in place for associates of the politicians, contacts and select others where their offers of help could have an inside track.
We need transparency, honesty and accountability, but we won’t get it. |
Boris said no | | | |
| Tory cronyism on 18:03 - Apr 15 with 2349 views | onehunglow |
Len McCluskie. Crony
Joe Anderson...Lord Mayir Liverpool..Crony.
Derek Hatton...Crony
Keith Vaz ..crony
Etc | |
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| Tory cronyism on 18:42 - Apr 15 with 2329 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Tory cronyism on 20:19 - Apr 14 by Fireboy2 |
We plebs would still be paying the same amount of poll tax as the rich if there hadnt been the riot over it.
Sometimes you only get somewhere with a violent struggle, where does peaceful protest get you? |
Well actually you would have been paying a quarter of the poll tax . Only 1 in 4 adults actually pays rates , community charge.
The idea of the poll tax was that all adults would pay the poll tax at a much reduced rate.
Needless to say the 3/4 of the population who would have to start paying it objected. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 19:08 - Apr 15 with 2323 views | onehunglow |
| Tory cronyism on 18:42 - Apr 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Well actually you would have been paying a quarter of the poll tax . Only 1 in 4 adults actually pays rates , community charge.
The idea of the poll tax was that all adults would pay the poll tax at a much reduced rate.
Needless to say the 3/4 of the population who would have to start paying it objected. |
And this is a member of the 3 emergency services talking about violent struggle.
Hope you don't get a shout to any Rich person,Eddie. If you, do, don't treat them with the contempt you show on here for anyone not a full on class warrior like yourself.
You and Kenny enjoy slagging off a working class "poor" city ,one with many "deprived" people. So it seems rather hypocritical to slag off fellow working class/poor,who despise the rich/privileged as much as you do. | |
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| Tory cronyism on 19:08 - Apr 15 with 2316 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Tory cronyism on 18:57 - Apr 14 by felixstowe_jack |
That is not what I said . I just pointed out it was a bit rich labour supporters creating a big fuss.
Business always approach the government in power to lobby for legislation that suits them . It is part of politics. Unions lobby the labour party.
Anyone who does not think it goes on must have led a very sheltered life.
Even the public can lobby the government by signing petitions, that once they have enough signatures have to be debated in parliament.
The other method of trying to influence the government is protest marches which often depend into a violent riot. Extinction rebellion black lives matter to name just a couple of recent ones. |
"Even the public can lobby the government by signing petitions, that once they have enough signatures have to be debated in parliament."
Not sure this kid quite gets it... |  | | |
| Tory cronyism on 19:10 - Apr 15 with 2314 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Tory cronyism on 23:20 - Apr 14 by raynor94 |
And Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was whiter than white, and don't let's even go down the road of what the Labour Union Barons have got up too.
They are all the same, drunk on Power. |
Blair was as Labour as Starmer is. | | | |
| Tory cronyism on 19:13 - Apr 15 with 2315 views | onehunglow |
Maybe we should have equal pay for all and only have differential if your job directly benefits the State. That would mean you Chrissy getting the same as one on working in McDonalds.
No?
Everyone wants to earn a much as possible including you and you aint bothered as to how much more you would be paid .
Everyone is s socialist on here all for equality in everything .Trouble is if wages were lowered to higher others then rockets would fly.
It is why socialism is utter la la land | |
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| Tory cronyism on 19:15 - Apr 15 with 2313 views | onehunglow |
| Tory cronyism on 18:42 - Apr 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Well actually you would have been paying a quarter of the poll tax . Only 1 in 4 adults actually pays rates , community charge.
The idea of the poll tax was that all adults would pay the poll tax at a much reduced rate.
Needless to say the 3/4 of the population who would have to start paying it objected. |
Rates were far far higher.Poll tax was less. Fact. Community charge is les than Rates.
People are either too dumb or too young to remember | |
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| Tory cronyism on 19:21 - Apr 15 with 2311 views | Catullus |
| Tory cronyism on 20:19 - Apr 14 by Fireboy2 |
We plebs would still be paying the same amount of poll tax as the rich if there hadnt been the riot over it.
Sometimes you only get somewhere with a violent struggle, where does peaceful protest get you? |
You do know the poll tax was actually fairer than the current council tax system.
There are 2 afults in our house, there are 5 adults living next door, they make considerably more rubbish than us but pay the same. They use twice as much (at least) as us but pay exactly the same.
In NPT the council tax for a band D house is more than the same band in Mumbles. Why is it fair?
We should pay for the services we use, not by the value of our house. I feel the same about the VED charge, scrap it and put up the tax on fuel, those that use the most will pay by usage, not by the value of their car then put a purchase tax on cars graded by emissions so the most polluting cars cost even more to buy. | |
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