| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 07:56 - Sep 7 with 1229 views | onehunglow |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 07:11 - Sep 7 by pencoedjack |
I want to watch my national team with commentary in a language that the majority of my fellow countrymen understand.
S4C is funded by the license fee that I pay & should be made to have English commentary.
Anyway our English speaking manager was happy with the result.
@ Keith it wasn’t on the eye player. |
So someone who questions welsh is hounded on here .
Well.sssssssss.
The majority in Wales don’t speak Welsh,many actually find it a pain. Many find it divisive .
Many find it totally irrelevant
Maybe the three pundits didn’t inspire
Maybe Malcom’s Allen’s thick Coffi grated on people .
And yet,we see languages such as Brazilian and Argentinian on here .
Yes,folks, we are this insular
Don’t ever question welsh Pen. It’s always leads to unpleasantness as you ll see when lifelong sees what I’ve just posted . |  |
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 08:05 - Sep 7 with 1204 views | pencoedjack |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 07:56 - Sep 7 by onehunglow |
So someone who questions welsh is hounded on here .
Well.sssssssss.
The majority in Wales don’t speak Welsh,many actually find it a pain. Many find it divisive .
Many find it totally irrelevant
Maybe the three pundits didn’t inspire
Maybe Malcom’s Allen’s thick Coffi grated on people .
And yet,we see languages such as Brazilian and Argentinian on here .
Yes,folks, we are this insular
Don’t ever question welsh Pen. It’s always leads to unpleasantness as you ll see when lifelong sees what I’ve just posted . |
Judging by the traffic on this match day thread I’d say it’s probably best to try & keep English speakers on board
I’ve probably watched more live Wales internationals than most on here.
& I couldn’t give a toss what the nats say or think 👍 |  | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 08:12 - Sep 7 with 1199 views | onehunglow |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 08:05 - Sep 7 by pencoedjack |
Judging by the traffic on this match day thread I’d say it’s probably best to try & keep English speakers on board
I’ve probably watched more live Wales internationals than most on here.
& I couldn’t give a toss what the nats say or think 👍 |
This is why my mum hated Welsh .
My father came from cardi full on welsh speakers
It caused nowt but unpleasantness.
I see this on this site
The vast majority are being intimidated by a minority . Fact
Decent folk speaking a mother tongue handed down to them ,yet ,because of the land they are born on,it’s not enough to be considered “ proper welsh” and they should learn it.
Well………..no.Why don’t welsh speakers accost the language,as a country , will always be a minority language . If you’re born in Bangor,Caernarfon,Cardigan, handed are you will be brought up speaking it , if in Ebbw Vale,you wont .
Three nonentities presenting a televised football game is Eason to turn sound off though
Get your tin hat as things will get frosty soon | |
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 09:28 - Sep 7 with 1112 views | majorraglan |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 22:20 - Sep 6 by pencoedjack |
I concur.
Why wasn’t the game shown with English commentary, the only place I could find it was S4C. |
Because S4C purchases the right to broadcast the match in Welsh, the English rights are usually sold to a much bigger outfit who pay a lot more. S4C do sometimes have a n English language option on the red button, but it all depends on the terms of the contract and if anyone has picked up the English language options.
S4C have worked a little route to get around the monopoly the likes of Sky have on broadcasting events. [Post edited 7 Sep 9:28]
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 09:28 - Sep 7 with 1107 views | herbie |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 08:12 - Sep 7 by onehunglow |
This is why my mum hated Welsh .
My father came from cardi full on welsh speakers
It caused nowt but unpleasantness.
I see this on this site
The vast majority are being intimidated by a minority . Fact
Decent folk speaking a mother tongue handed down to them ,yet ,because of the land they are born on,it’s not enough to be considered “ proper welsh” and they should learn it.
Well………..no.Why don’t welsh speakers accost the language,as a country , will always be a minority language . If you’re born in Bangor,Caernarfon,Cardigan, handed are you will be brought up speaking it , if in Ebbw Vale,you wont .
Three nonentities presenting a televised football game is Eason to turn sound off though
Get your tin hat as things will get frosty soon |
Nobody is being hounded. I am not a native Welsh speaker myself. I explained what S4C was set up for and find it arrogant to suggest their commentary should be in English which would breach its basic principle of being a Welsh language channel and to encourage more people to learn some Welsh.
You don’t have to be a Welsh speaker to be Welsh of course not. Now that would be a stupid argument to make but it’s no hardship to watch a Wales game with Welsh commentary particularly when the alternative is it might not be broadcast at all.
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 09:53 - Sep 7 with 1053 views | onehunglow |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 09:28 - Sep 7 by herbie |
Nobody is being hounded. I am not a native Welsh speaker myself. I explained what S4C was set up for and find it arrogant to suggest their commentary should be in English which would breach its basic principle of being a Welsh language channel and to encourage more people to learn some Welsh.
You don’t have to be a Welsh speaker to be Welsh of course not. Now that would be a stupid argument to make but it’s no hardship to watch a Wales game with Welsh commentary particularly when the alternative is it might not be broadcast at all.
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That’s a decent riposte albeit one whose sentiments I do not share
All should be able to discuss this
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 10:07 - Sep 7 with 1040 views | DaPs166 |
What’s people’s problem with Welsh commentary? Just because you feel lesser for not speaking Welsh, doesn’t mean you need to project yourselves onto others. Either shut up or learn Welsh. 🏴 | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 10:21 - Sep 7 with 1017 views | max936 |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 09:28 - Sep 7 by herbie |
Nobody is being hounded. I am not a native Welsh speaker myself. I explained what S4C was set up for and find it arrogant to suggest their commentary should be in English which would breach its basic principle of being a Welsh language channel and to encourage more people to learn some Welsh.
You don’t have to be a Welsh speaker to be Welsh of course not. Now that would be a stupid argument to make but it’s no hardship to watch a Wales game with Welsh commentary particularly when the alternative is it might not be broadcast at all.
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Excellent post, unfortunately I can't speak Welsh, but I support the Welsh peoples right to speak it and long may it continue and even grow.
Yes its a pain watching sport without English commentary, but you can still watch it and enjoy it.
Dwi'n caru Cymru |  |
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 10:26 - Sep 7 with 1002 views | Whiterockin |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 10:07 - Sep 7 by DaPs166 |
What’s people’s problem with Welsh commentary? Just because you feel lesser for not speaking Welsh, doesn’t mean you need to project yourselves onto others. Either shut up or learn Welsh. 🏴 |
The option of English commentary on the red button would aid viewing figures and help with advertising revenue. There were probably many like me who watched a stream instead. |  | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:03 - Sep 7 with 938 views | pencoedjack |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 10:26 - Sep 7 by Whiterockin |
The option of English commentary on the red button would aid viewing figures and help with advertising revenue. There were probably many like me who watched a stream instead. |
Indeed
Personally I don’t give a toss about the Welsh language & it irks me I see my money wasted on receiving letters in both Welsh & English ,the money & the environment would be far better off if you were given the option.
I bet S4C’s don’t warrant the money gifted by the licence pay to keep a few yokels happy.
Anyway glad the Welsh manager gave his post match analysis in English so the vast majority got his views on the game. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:18 - Sep 7 with 902 views | Whiterockin |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:03 - Sep 7 by pencoedjack |
Indeed
Personally I don’t give a toss about the Welsh language & it irks me I see my money wasted on receiving letters in both Welsh & English ,the money & the environment would be far better off if you were given the option.
I bet S4C’s don’t warrant the money gifted by the licence pay to keep a few yokels happy.
Anyway glad the Welsh manager gave his post match analysis in English so the vast majority got his views on the game. |
I don't have a problem with the Welsh language apart from the massive cost to duplicate everything in Wales. It does smack of double standards though when the programs are entirely in Welsh on S4C but many of the adds are in English. They really couldn't survive without the English language. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:20 - Sep 7 with 885 views | lifelong |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:03 - Sep 7 by pencoedjack |
Indeed
Personally I don’t give a toss about the Welsh language & it irks me I see my money wasted on receiving letters in both Welsh & English ,the money & the environment would be far better off if you were given the option.
I bet S4C’s don’t warrant the money gifted by the licence pay to keep a few yokels happy.
Anyway glad the Welsh manager gave his post match analysis in English so the vast majority got his views on the game. |
What a dreadful attitude towards Wales and the Welsh language. |  | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:21 - Sep 7 with 880 views | pencoedjack |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:18 - Sep 7 by Whiterockin |
I don't have a problem with the Welsh language apart from the massive cost to duplicate everything in Wales. It does smack of double standards though when the programs are entirely in Welsh on S4C but many of the adds are in English. They really couldn't survive without the English language. |
A bit like the Welsh national team not surviving without English born players, a country that Welsh nationalists hate. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:31 - Sep 7 with 852 views | pencoedjack |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:20 - Sep 7 by lifelong |
What a dreadful attitude towards Wales and the Welsh language. |
Glad it annoys you.
As I said earlier I have probably watched Wales play live more times than most on here spending 1000’s in doing so.
Think it’s fair that the game is available in a language that the majority of the country understands. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:33 - Sep 7 with 830 views | lifelong |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:31 - Sep 7 by pencoedjack |
Glad it annoys you.
As I said earlier I have probably watched Wales play live more times than most on here spending 1000’s in doing so.
Think it’s fair that the game is available in a language that the majority of the country understands. |
Doesn’t really annoy me, I just feel sorry for you. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:38 - Sep 7 with 796 views | Whiterockin |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:33 - Sep 7 by lifelong |
Doesn’t really annoy me, I just feel sorry for you. |
And there lies one of the biggest problems in Wales and resulting in a resentment of the Welsh language. Welsh speakers think they are superior, they are not, if you are Welsh you are Welsh irrespective of the language you speak. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:39 - Sep 7 with 791 views | pencoedjack |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:33 - Sep 7 by lifelong |
Doesn’t really annoy me, I just feel sorry for you. |
No need to feel sorry for me butt just speaking on behalf of the masses 👍 | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:48 - Sep 7 with 770 views | lifelong |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:38 - Sep 7 by Whiterockin |
And there lies one of the biggest problems in Wales and resulting in a resentment of the Welsh language. Welsh speakers think they are superior, they are not, if you are Welsh you are Welsh irrespective of the language you speak. |
‘ Welsh speakers think they are superior’
How do you work that one out? Especially when you have a Welsh language hater on here calling Welsh language speakers Yokels. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:48 - Sep 7 with 770 views | KeithHaynes |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 07:42 - Sep 7 by herbie |
S4C was created to support and develop the Welsh language. To have commentary in English would rather undermine its purpose. Surely even you can see that. They paid for the rights to show the games. Without it you mightn't have seen it at all. Maybe try learning some Welsh and educating yourself? |
They have commentary in English on their YouTube service for Monday (I think) |  |
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 12:30 - Sep 7 with 715 views | pencoedjack |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:48 - Sep 7 by lifelong |
‘ Welsh speakers think they are superior’
How do you work that one out? Especially when you have a Welsh language hater on here calling Welsh language speakers Yokels. |
You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself & anyone who disagrees with you on things such as the Welsh language or the 20 mph speed limit always seem to be anti Welsh.
The vast majority of people want what is best for Wales & are often baffled why we waste money on vanity projects when there is a need to spend money wisely. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 12:37 - Sep 7 with 686 views | raynor94 |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:38 - Sep 7 by Whiterockin |
And there lies one of the biggest problems in Wales and resulting in a resentment of the Welsh language. Welsh speakers think they are superior, they are not, if you are Welsh you are Welsh irrespective of the language you speak. |
Great post👍 |  |
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 14:03 - Sep 7 with 613 views | AnotherJohn |
Like other Anglophones, I accept that there is a valid case to promote the Welsh language. This does have certain downsides though. In the organisation where I worked full time for many years and still do a bit, every organisation-wide communication must be sent in both languages. This means there is now a translation unit that requires a couple of days notice if a translation is needed and delays messages being circulated. When emails are sent, the Welsh must precede the English language part. I often wonder how much time it takes across the organisation to scroll through the first part of emails, since only a minority of employees actually speak and read Welsh fluently. | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 15:33 - Sep 7 with 563 views | lifelong |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 12:30 - Sep 7 by pencoedjack |
You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself & anyone who disagrees with you on things such as the Welsh language or the 20 mph speed limit always seem to be anti Welsh.
The vast majority of people want what is best for Wales & are often baffled why we waste money on vanity projects when there is a need to spend money wisely. |
So it’s me who has a high opinion of myself when it is you that call Welsh speakers yokels?
As far as the 20mph limit is concerned where have I said that those that oppose it are anti Welsh? | | | |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 21:23 - Sep 7 with 436 views | JBT95 |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 22:20 - Sep 6 by pencoedjack |
I concur.
Why wasn’t the game shown with English commentary, the only place I could find it was S4C. |
Because S4C hold the Welsh language rights to the games, not English.
The English ones are held by viaplay, which is now part of Premier Sports in the UK.
For some reason viaplay/Premier Sports are not showing any nations league games this window, that's why Scotland and NI are being shown on itv.
https://www.itv.com/football/articles/itv-secure-deal-to-air-scotland-and-northe [Post edited 7 Sep 21:24]
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| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 21:26 - Sep 7 with 433 views | JBT95 |
| 🏴 Wales v Türkiye 🇹🇷 : Nations League 1/6 on 11:31 - Sep 7 by pencoedjack |
Glad it annoys you.
As I said earlier I have probably watched Wales play live more times than most on here spending 1000’s in doing so.
Think it’s fair that the game is available in a language that the majority of the country understands. |
I don't speak Cymraeg but I don't see why you need a football match with English commentary. Just watch the damn thing! Or better still buy a ticket and go to the game.
I watched Saudi v Argentina in Qatar with blaring Arabic commentary!
Football is a language we all understand! [Post edited 7 Sep 21:28]
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