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Reply | Never mind the (VAR) B0ll0x
at 13:59 3 Dec 2024
And just to back up what I've said, PGMOL chief Howard Webb has admitted that the goal should have stood |
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Reply | Never mind the (VAR) B0ll0x
at 12:49 3 Dec 2024
So your argument is the decision is offside because Armstrong kicked his heel backwards even though he missed the ball and did not impact on any of the opposition players. You say that would take the VAR officials approx 20 seconds to decide, which I'd agree with. So why did it take four and a half minutes to come up with a decision?
As you seem to be implying that everyone who disagrees with your point of view is an idiot perhaps you ought to check the rules of the game instead of just recycling the garbage Dion Dublin spouts out on match of the day.
You said that if Armstrong had not attempted to play the ball while offside it would have been given and stated that this is the rules but I'm afraid you're wrong.
Law 11: Offside states that a player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by interfering with an opponent by
• preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
• challenging an opponent for the ball or
• clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
• making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
none of which applied to Armstrong.
In addition Law 11 states
The following criteria should be used, as appropriate, as indicators that a player was in control of the ball and, as a result, can be considered to have ‘deliberately played’ the ball:
• The ball travelled from distance and the player had a clear view of it
• The ball was not moving quickly
• The direction of the ball was not unexpected
• The player had time to coordinate their body movement, i.e. it was not a case of instinctive stretching or jumping, or a movement that achieved limited contact/control
• A ball moving on the ground is easier to play than a ball in the air
Clearly in Armstrong’s situation none of the above criteria were met so Armstrong was not interfering with play.
I rest my case M’Lud [Post edited 3 Dec 12:50]
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Reply | Never mind the (VAR) B0ll0x
at 23:21 1 Dec 2024
If as you say it’s so clear cut how come it took the officials 4 1/2 minutes to make a decision
Clearly it’s not easy to grasp |
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Reply | Never mind the (VAR) B0ll0x
at 13:27 30 Nov 2024
Watch the replay. If Verbruggen was put off by Armstrong why didn’t he appeal |
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Reply | Never mind the (VAR) B0ll0x
at 12:25 30 Nov 2024
When you watch it again Verbruggen hardly even moved. The cross completely caught him out, it had absolutely nothing to do with Armstrong.
When the VAR official apparently refused to draw lines on the picture I suspected something was wrong. I reckon he drew lines on his screen, realised Archer was onside, which probably took 30 seconds then spent the remaining 4 minutes trying to come up with a reason to disallow the goal.
This decision is bent |
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Thread | Never mind the (VAR) B0ll0x
at 12:12 30 Nov 2024
The official VAR decision was that Adam Armstrong was adjudged to be critically impacting on Verbruggen’s ability to play the ball.
Verbruggen was rooted to the spot at the near post when the cross came in. I watched the replay and timed the cross. It took 0.9 seconds for the cross to get from Fraser to Archer. It took 0.4 seconds from when the ball passed Armstrong to Archer putting it in the back of the net. For Verbruggen to have got from the position he was in into a position to save Archer’s shot he'd have had to have covered 7.32m in 0.9 seconds. When Usain Bolt set the 100m record he travelled at 12.33m per second from a sprint start. Verbruggen would have had to travel at 8.13m/sec from a standing start starting side on.
If this was the same VAR official as the Wolves game then the club should be asking for an investigation into possible Pompey connections, ie see if he has 6 fingers on each hand or webbed toes
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Reply | Let’s not kid ourselves
at 20:45 29 Nov 2024
It doesn’t matter what team or what formation he picks we’re second best in every position |
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Reply | Let’s not kid ourselves
at 20:42 29 Nov 2024
Tonight I’m watching a smaller club than us play us off the pitch because their owners have run their club really well, appointed the right managers, bought the right players, everything our owners aren’t |
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Thread | Let’s not kid ourselves
at 20:38 29 Nov 2024
The position we find ourselves in has absolutely nothing to do with the manager or the players.
The fault falls squarely with the owners. Bunch of rank amateurs.
Sports Republic out |
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Reply | Could This Be Russell Martin's Last Game ?
at 11:28 24 Nov 2024
I don't think he'll be gone even after a thumping.
Let's look at it realistically, we need a much better manager to get a tune out of this squad particularly the attack. Where are we going to find that manager with relegation all but guaranteed? I have no confidence in Sport Republic making the right choice with a replacement.
In addition sport Republic in their wisdom gave Russell Martin a new contract in the summer meaning it's probably going to cost more than £10m to replace Martin and his backroom team. This would severely limit the amount of funds we had to spend on players in the next transfer window for any new manager.
As much as it pains me to say I would accept that we’re relegated, keep Martin in charge in the hope that somehow he'll pull off a miracle and then have a good clear out of manager and players ready for a promotion push next season. |
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Reply | Is Anyone Positive About The Liverpool Game
at 10:29 24 Nov 2024
Good point. We keep bringing him on and not putting crosses into the box, where he at least tries to get into goal scoring positions unlike our other strikers who hug the touchline where their incompetence in front of goal can't be exposed
Seriously I think our secret weapon could be storm Bert and a cancellation through adverse weather |
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Reply | Is Anyone Positive About The Liverpool Game
at 23:04 23 Nov 2024
I think we can do it although did bang my head earlier
If we can frustrate them, play with Tall Paul and actually play to his strengths, play Dibling up front our possession football could nullify their play. It would rely on Liverpool having a spectacularly bad day thinking they just have to turn up and every one of our players being up for it. It needs a massive game from the fans.
Having said that we could get tonked but we can but dream COYS |
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Reply | 5 Things About The Everton Game
at 17:17 4 Nov 2024
1. We won
2. We kept a clean sheet, or as you said Nick Ramsdale kept a clean sheet with a class performance
3. Fernandez is pure class. Everything he does is progressive
4. Has Martin found his best team
5. We need a goal scorer in the January window |
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Reply | Var bias to big clubs
at 17:11 4 Nov 2024
I’m sure if it was Harwood-Bellis I’d be saying yellow 😉
We probably got away with one with the Bednarek challenge although Dyche only appeared to see one of those challenges 🤣 |
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Reply | Var bias to big clubs
at 15:06 4 Nov 2024
I didn’t realise VAR checked it. That makes it even worse
When you say it’s definitely a yellow I would disagree
Law 12 of the official FA rulebook stating that the following must result in a red card: “A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.”
I think the challenge meets that criteria |
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Reply | Var bias to big clubs
at 14:57 4 Nov 2024
Absolutely Grumps and it would have taken 4 seconds not 4 minutes 😅 |
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