| Maybe nothing on 10:49 - Sep 5 with 2427 views | Shaky |
| Maybe nothing on 10:38 - Sep 5 by jasper_T |
My only question is whether the payment made in July 19 for the 19/20 season is the same whether we're in this league or get promoted. It must be because we've sold it for an up front fixed sum (I assume because we didn't get our wage bill down enough during this window and badly need the extra cash), but obviously the overall payment that season is only 40% of normal PL TV money if it's another parachute.
In the end it's an interesting rather than alarming document, and I got excited over nothing. |
FWIW, my best guess is that the parachute payment and the normal first tranche of the Prem TV money is roughly the same amount, and is paid at roughly the same time: July |  |
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| Maybe nothing on 10:56 - Sep 5 with 2411 views | Tom1912 |
Not really a surprise. Obviously we raised £30-£45m in the summer from the fire sale to help balance the books but a lot of that money won't be upfront and will likely be received over the next 12-24 months while wages still need paying every month, and we likely have some big payments from previous transfer signings coming up. |  | | |
| Maybe nothing on 10:57 - Sep 5 with 2403 views | TheResurrection |
| Maybe nothing on 10:49 - Sep 5 by Shaky |
FWIW, my best guess is that the parachute payment and the normal first tranche of the Prem TV money is roughly the same amount, and is paid at roughly the same time: July |
Hang on, you were saying earlier we'd need to borrow 2 seasons worth of money because the firesale didn't go to plan.
Seriously mate, you don't think, you don't do proper research but you come on here with your absolute tosh (and spreadsheets) and pass it off as some kind of high finance guru Bullshit.
Today's lesson in how to make Shaky look a complete and incompetent fool was brought to you at the Why Don't You team...
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| Maybe nothing on 10:57 - Sep 5 with 2403 views | Loyal |
| Maybe nothing on 10:47 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Can you get even more boring these days Jam?
Happy for anyone to come with me and arrange another meeting with Dineen so you can all see for yourself I've never spoken to the guy since. Never spoken to Jenkins once ever, or Morgan.
Maybe ask Nick Moscow, he would know.
Jenkins deserves flak, and has done for a multitude of reasons and if you want to go back at some of the points I was making back then and disagree then fine, but I wouldn't, I'd stand by everything I ever said, including the for the fans by the fans bullshit, the money they were taking out of the club through wages, tenders etc, the useless finer detail things they'd continuously get wrong, like on the tickets site we'd have a graphic of the Liberty showing the facking Ospreys sign, it was pathetic, lots of it.
I'd also had enough of him after the Sousa issue because I don't think he'd backed him and I thought Sousa could offer more.
But, he proved me wrong there, well wrong, and I was happy to be proved wrong as we ultimately went up to the big league.
I've also wanted the Trust to get its act together and stand up to them for the fans. Pleaded with them but they never did.
I wanted Jenkins out up until January of 2017 when he manufactured our relegation survival.
So, yeah, I've changed my mind here and there same as most do. It seems from what you're saying you and the other sheep have also changed your minds, you didn't equate that into your guff though did you.
I make intelligent, cohesive arguments for the current owners on the basis the EPL is a monster truck that careers out of control, I'm not without my skepticism, but I'm also not without a sense of balance.
Most of you are incapable of either thinking for yourself, putting yourself in other people's shoes or applying that sense of balance.
These are your failings, not mine. |
In between your little snipes you actually made sense. You should try it more. The snipes are clearly as a result of you feeling challenged, I wasn't challenging you that much just asking a question. I've stood up for your points on numerous times on here, just because they don't fit exactly all the time there is no need to add extra content to your reply with insults. OK, had I said Chris your a cnt then yes it's warranted, when I actually give you a chance to be more open it's not justified.
I again agree to an extent to your reply but I think not for the same reasons as you.
As for balance, you fall over lots on here, we all do, but don't hold the world responsible, just dust yourself down and live by your principles no matter how often you change them just be prepared to be examined now and again. |  |
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| Maybe nothing on 11:06 - Sep 5 with 2375 views | TheResurrection |
| Maybe nothing on 10:57 - Sep 5 by Loyal |
In between your little snipes you actually made sense. You should try it more. The snipes are clearly as a result of you feeling challenged, I wasn't challenging you that much just asking a question. I've stood up for your points on numerous times on here, just because they don't fit exactly all the time there is no need to add extra content to your reply with insults. OK, had I said Chris your a cnt then yes it's warranted, when I actually give you a chance to be more open it's not justified.
I again agree to an extent to your reply but I think not for the same reasons as you.
As for balance, you fall over lots on here, we all do, but don't hold the world responsible, just dust yourself down and live by your principles no matter how often you change them just be prepared to be examined now and again. |
But Jamie, you try having the same bullshit accusation thrown at you constantly and see how you deal with it. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 11:20 - Sep 5 with 2337 views | Darran |
| Maybe nothing on 10:27 - Sep 5 by Loyal |
Chris, you were slating Jenkins a few years back, when he was flavour of the month you were killing him on here for the way he was behaving and managing transfers etc. In fact some of what you said has come true even if it was you just stating the opposite at the time for the hell of it.
There has only really been a change of heart since you met Dineen at the village hotel which will of course raise suspicions in many as to your agenda. You have gone from Jenkins out and slating him at any given opportunity to a complete reversal, I think this is why people are confronting you on here.
Maybe both sides of this very serious time for our club should amicabley agree to discuss this and not turn it in to a civil war.
Just an idea. |
lol that reminds me of his thread from little a while ago.
Especially the edit from a Mod under the video.
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/forum/184939/huw-jenkins-your |  |
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| Maybe nothing on 11:29 - Sep 5 with 2311 views | omarjack |
Wow LOL..Who did he threaten to kill?
Anyway, Since he's on the PR payroll and all, His loyalty always goes for the highest bidder. No wonder when one day he'll turn against Huwie, calling him the vilest of things (we already know he has priors in making death threats) when Res doesn't get his bonuses that are promised to him when he spreads propaganda amongst the fans. [Post edited 5 Sep 2018 11:30]
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| Maybe nothing on 11:39 - Sep 5 with 2287 views | TheResurrection |
Imagine sitting in your wheelchair in last week's underwear smoking weed til you've got no more brain cells and the only thing you've got in life are the Box Offices old threads.
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| Maybe nothing on 11:56 - Sep 5 with 2252 views | IAN05 |
| Maybe nothing on 07:40 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Ian hasn't posted in ages.
No surprise he posted something like this.
This is a sad time for our supporters. |
Always been a sporadic poster mate so.wouldnt read too much in. Always been someone who likes to dig for information too, it's part if what I do for a living.
You'd be surprised though, I'm not too far away from you in terms of my view currently, as I want to buy into what Americans are doing (not blindly like I did with previous owners) but there always seem to be something new that emerges to throw doubt over it.
If we could get a straight answer out of anyone at the club this would be a lot easier. | | | |
| Maybe nothing on 12:00 - Sep 5 with 2242 views | IAN05 |
| Maybe nothing on 08:14 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Wow, another chance to have a pop at Jenkins. Seems
Ian has got what he wanted from this thread.
I guess it doesn't matter this is something we do EVERY SEASON |
You can't honestly believe that people have a strategy when posting stuff on here 😂😂
It's a flipping message board | | | |
| Maybe nothing on 12:12 - Sep 5 with 2213 views | TheResurrection |
| Maybe nothing on 12:00 - Sep 5 by IAN05 |
You can't honestly believe that people have a strategy when posting stuff on here 😂😂
It's a flipping message board |
Ian, all I know is 99% of your posts, be them on here or especially on Twitter, are slagging off the Club. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 12:13 - Sep 5 with 2210 views | omarjack |
| Maybe nothing on 12:12 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Ian, all I know is 99% of your posts, be them on here or especially on Twitter, are slagging off the Club. |
Funny, 100% of your posts are you sucking off Huwie and the 2 muppets in charge. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 12:23 - Sep 5 with 2199 views | IAN05 |
| Maybe nothing on 12:12 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Ian, all I know is 99% of your posts, be them on here or especially on Twitter, are slagging off the Club. |
More like 90% in my view but i agree in principle.
The rest are flagging up positives such as excellent family day, great hospitality service, nice looking 3rd kit, streaming of friendly games, ability to get sponsors at short turnaround and backing our players and manager. Which are ALL things I post about on Twitter. If I believe things are good I will say it, if I don't I will say that too - currently there are so many things that need questioning that the bias will be towards these.
My discontent is with ex owners and new owners and are things I regularly debate with the ex owners and people at the club.
Similarly, your gripes are more with the Trust than the club and that's where you channel your frustrations largely. | | | |
| Maybe nothing on 12:28 - Sep 5 with 2183 views | Dippy |
| Maybe nothing on 10:56 - Sep 5 by Tom1912 |
Not really a surprise. Obviously we raised £30-£45m in the summer from the fire sale to help balance the books but a lot of that money won't be upfront and will likely be received over the next 12-24 months while wages still need paying every month, and we likely have some big payments from previous transfer signings coming up. |
Yeah.. there's no clarity.. we're skint, in the sense, that we haven't received payments, so we can strengthen the squad.
And we don't know what transfer payments we are yet to receive.
Like the 50 million for Gylfi.. and the ones we just shipped out. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 12:46 - Sep 5 with 2136 views | TheResurrection |
| Maybe nothing on 12:23 - Sep 5 by IAN05 |
More like 90% in my view but i agree in principle.
The rest are flagging up positives such as excellent family day, great hospitality service, nice looking 3rd kit, streaming of friendly games, ability to get sponsors at short turnaround and backing our players and manager. Which are ALL things I post about on Twitter. If I believe things are good I will say it, if I don't I will say that too - currently there are so many things that need questioning that the bias will be towards these.
My discontent is with ex owners and new owners and are things I regularly debate with the ex owners and people at the club.
Similarly, your gripes are more with the Trust than the club and that's where you channel your frustrations largely. |
Good post and fair enough
I just think this is all a bit sad because there's a lot to be positive about, including the aspects mentioned in your post which get overlooked because generally most are looking for issues, and desperately so.
Celina's after match comments were a joy to read. Such an exciting, young talent playing his heart out for our football club and mostly all our fans are interested in is raking up dirt or looking for issues to feel miserable about.
Like I said, sad. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 12:59 - Sep 5 with 2119 views | Loyal |
| Maybe nothing on 11:06 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
But Jamie, you try having the same bullshit accusation thrown at you constantly and see how you deal with it. |
But the accusations aren't to you Chris, they are to the owners of the club. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 13:01 - Sep 5 with 2115 views | Loyal |
| Maybe nothing on 12:00 - Sep 5 by IAN05 |
You can't honestly believe that people have a strategy when posting stuff on here 😂😂
It's a flipping message board |
It seems that some people do though mate. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 13:06 - Sep 5 with 2098 views | Darran |
| Maybe nothing on 12:59 - Sep 5 by Loyal |
But the accusations aren't to you Chris, they are to the owners of the club. |
It’s all about him mun,me,me,me. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 13:35 - Sep 5 with 2022 views | chad |
Res / T2C you Shaky and I have agreed on many things in the past and you and Shaky have both made and pushed really important issues.
I have always agreed it is about what is best for the club and not about vendettas. I have supported your view that we could possibly be worse off without Jenkins rather than with him (of course we could) even though i don’t necessarily personally agree that is most likely. You also have made clear you share some of my concerns.
For me it is not only about recent serious failings but also about the lies, deceit and putting his own self interest massively above the club.
I am sure many would not bother about that if they thought his continuing here meant the club would do better than without him, and of course that is a perfectly pragmatic point of view. However his past actions speak much of his character, his priorities and his overriding self interest. He has clearly demonstrated that he is not to be trusted.
His actions have also created an understandable resentful toxicity within the club which is ripping us apart.
I am actually though interested at your recent attacks on Shaky (and am aware Shaky can more than hold his own in this respect - although what where he may or may not come from has to do with anything I don’t understand, and such comments only serve to dilute important points you may make).
Did you not post on this forum previously to totally support Shaky and to ask others to listen to the important points he was making and to the effect that you knew who Shaky was and he was totally to be trusted.
Of course this seems totally out of line with you current approach and I am genuinely interested to understand the background to this as perhaps I missed something.
For my part it is sad we cannot exchange views without seriously abusing or demeaning others and that comment is widely aimed.
Which is why I think it not only important but essential that the Trust has its own forum where hard questions may be raised and discussed without calling those that do not agree with your views thick etc. (current social media being used IMO being far from conducive to in depth discussions on various subject focussed topics). |  | | |
| Maybe nothing on 14:19 - Sep 5 with 1966 views | TheResurrection |
| Maybe nothing on 13:35 - Sep 5 by chad |
Res / T2C you Shaky and I have agreed on many things in the past and you and Shaky have both made and pushed really important issues.
I have always agreed it is about what is best for the club and not about vendettas. I have supported your view that we could possibly be worse off without Jenkins rather than with him (of course we could) even though i don’t necessarily personally agree that is most likely. You also have made clear you share some of my concerns.
For me it is not only about recent serious failings but also about the lies, deceit and putting his own self interest massively above the club.
I am sure many would not bother about that if they thought his continuing here meant the club would do better than without him, and of course that is a perfectly pragmatic point of view. However his past actions speak much of his character, his priorities and his overriding self interest. He has clearly demonstrated that he is not to be trusted.
His actions have also created an understandable resentful toxicity within the club which is ripping us apart.
I am actually though interested at your recent attacks on Shaky (and am aware Shaky can more than hold his own in this respect - although what where he may or may not come from has to do with anything I don’t understand, and such comments only serve to dilute important points you may make).
Did you not post on this forum previously to totally support Shaky and to ask others to listen to the important points he was making and to the effect that you knew who Shaky was and he was totally to be trusted.
Of course this seems totally out of line with you current approach and I am genuinely interested to understand the background to this as perhaps I missed something.
For my part it is sad we cannot exchange views without seriously abusing or demeaning others and that comment is widely aimed.
Which is why I think it not only important but essential that the Trust has its own forum where hard questions may be raised and discussed without calling those that do not agree with your views thick etc. (current social media being used IMO being far from conducive to in depth discussions on various subject focussed topics). |
Before I answer, may I ask why you've not asked the same question to Shaky? His abuse towards me is something you're choosing to ignore?
Shaky reached out to me before, gave me his email address first of all and we opened a form of dialogue outside of this site. This turned into many, many conversations online. He then gave me his phone number and we chatted over the telephone. He told me of his background, his family and we got to know each other, I guess. Enough for me to have believed in him at the time. But he's never gone into actual personal information about himself so I've been unable to confirm whether everything he's told me is actually true.
He's quite a strange chap when you get to 'know' him a little better. I'd get random emails or texts asking if I'd said anything to a certain poster, actually accusing me of things that were developing in the spats he was having on this site.
I think it's fair to say he's as paranoid as I've ever known anyone and he's got a spreadsheet on the posters of this site. He believes someone he calls psychoboy is about ten different usernames.
I enjoyed our chats but that side of him drove me up the wall.
He's completely obsessed with this internet site and the posters on it. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 14:25 - Sep 5 with 1957 views | Shaky |
| Maybe nothing on 14:19 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Before I answer, may I ask why you've not asked the same question to Shaky? His abuse towards me is something you're choosing to ignore?
Shaky reached out to me before, gave me his email address first of all and we opened a form of dialogue outside of this site. This turned into many, many conversations online. He then gave me his phone number and we chatted over the telephone. He told me of his background, his family and we got to know each other, I guess. Enough for me to have believed in him at the time. But he's never gone into actual personal information about himself so I've been unable to confirm whether everything he's told me is actually true.
He's quite a strange chap when you get to 'know' him a little better. I'd get random emails or texts asking if I'd said anything to a certain poster, actually accusing me of things that were developing in the spats he was having on this site.
I think it's fair to say he's as paranoid as I've ever known anyone and he's got a spreadsheet on the posters of this site. He believes someone he calls psychoboy is about ten different usernames.
I enjoyed our chats but that side of him drove me up the wall.
He's completely obsessed with this internet site and the posters on it. |
90% lies or psychological projection. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 14:39 - Sep 5 with 1927 views | Shaky |
| Maybe nothing on 14:19 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Before I answer, may I ask why you've not asked the same question to Shaky? His abuse towards me is something you're choosing to ignore?
Shaky reached out to me before, gave me his email address first of all and we opened a form of dialogue outside of this site. This turned into many, many conversations online. He then gave me his phone number and we chatted over the telephone. He told me of his background, his family and we got to know each other, I guess. Enough for me to have believed in him at the time. But he's never gone into actual personal information about himself so I've been unable to confirm whether everything he's told me is actually true.
He's quite a strange chap when you get to 'know' him a little better. I'd get random emails or texts asking if I'd said anything to a certain poster, actually accusing me of things that were developing in the spats he was having on this site.
I think it's fair to say he's as paranoid as I've ever known anyone and he's got a spreadsheet on the posters of this site. He believes someone he calls psychoboy is about ten different usernames.
I enjoyed our chats but that side of him drove me up the wall.
He's completely obsessed with this internet site and the posters on it. |
And the one indisputable truth: "He believes someone he calls psychoboy is about ten different usernames"
aka Captain Sham, Phaderus, Jackanapes, and many more
A fact acknowledged by everybody including the poster himself, but that somehow remains a veiled mystery to eBoy.
Of course I don't have fcuking spreadsheet on any posters here, but at one stage there was some sport in tracking Sham's myriad username as they emerged.
Nothing to do with paranoia and certainly not the reason i did not give you any personal details about myself when you approached me.
That was purely because I didn't trust you. And i was right about that too, you little piece of shit. | |
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| Maybe nothing on 14:39 - Sep 5 with 1923 views | TheResurrection |
| Maybe nothing on 14:25 - Sep 5 by Shaky |
90% lies or psychological projection. |
When I've got every email and text you've ever sent, I think not.
See what I mean about paranoia though... | |
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| Maybe nothing on 14:41 - Sep 5 with 1917 views | TheResurrection |
| Maybe nothing on 14:39 - Sep 5 by Shaky |
And the one indisputable truth: "He believes someone he calls psychoboy is about ten different usernames"
aka Captain Sham, Phaderus, Jackanapes, and many more
A fact acknowledged by everybody including the poster himself, but that somehow remains a veiled mystery to eBoy.
Of course I don't have fcuking spreadsheet on any posters here, but at one stage there was some sport in tracking Sham's myriad username as they emerged.
Nothing to do with paranoia and certainly not the reason i did not give you any personal details about myself when you approached me.
That was purely because I didn't trust you. And i was right about that too, you little piece of shit. |
Approached you? Haha... I was reading your first message to me when I logged back in as T2C over the weekend.
And I had no idea who psychoboy was, you'd always bark on about him and I always just ignored you or paid you lip service. I thought you may have been on about Nick Moscow 😂 | |
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| Maybe nothing on 15:05 - Sep 5 with 1884 views | byron |
| Maybe nothing on 10:47 - Sep 5 by TheResurrection |
Can you get even more boring these days Jam?
Happy for anyone to come with me and arrange another meeting with Dineen so you can all see for yourself I've never spoken to the guy since. Never spoken to Jenkins once ever, or Morgan.
Maybe ask Nick Moscow, he would know.
Jenkins deserves flak, and has done for a multitude of reasons and if you want to go back at some of the points I was making back then and disagree then fine, but I wouldn't, I'd stand by everything I ever said, including the for the fans by the fans bullshit, the money they were taking out of the club through wages, tenders etc, the useless finer detail things they'd continuously get wrong, like on the tickets site we'd have a graphic of the Liberty showing the facking Ospreys sign, it was pathetic, lots of it.
I'd also had enough of him after the Sousa issue because I don't think he'd backed him and I thought Sousa could offer more.
But, he proved me wrong there, well wrong, and I was happy to be proved wrong as we ultimately went up to the big league.
I've also wanted the Trust to get its act together and stand up to them for the fans. Pleaded with them but they never did.
I wanted Jenkins out up until January of 2017 when he manufactured our relegation survival.
So, yeah, I've changed my mind here and there same as most do. It seems from what you're saying you and the other sheep have also changed your minds, you didn't equate that into your guff though did you.
I make intelligent, cohesive arguments for the current owners on the basis the EPL is a monster truck that careers out of control, I'm not without my skepticism, but I'm also not without a sense of balance.
Most of you are incapable of either thinking for yourself, putting yourself in other people's shoes or applying that sense of balance.
These are your failings, not mine. |
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