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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread 17:21 - Nov 25 with 19447 viewsjackharris



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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:41 - Nov 28 with 1378 viewsjackrmee

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 22:47 - Nov 28 by jasper_T

If all zones are covered and every player is paying attention then any delivery into the box will be able to be attacked by one or more players. It's a basic principle of classic English defending (two narrow banks of four, moving as if joined by a short rope, up, down, side to side in lines). Players spend most of the game "marking a line!!!!!"

It turns out Potter's zonal system is crap and easily exploited by set piece specialists, but that doesn't make all zonal systems crap.

Watch the last world cup if you want to see man to man systems used by players without the skill or training to use them effectively (spoiler: it's just loads of grappling with no one watching the ball, players still score, and give away loads more pens)


Very true, but you don't find out your system is crap until you try it.
I'm sure GP will be either working on the zonal system to get it better, or changing it, as that defending was appalling tonight.

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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:42 - Nov 28 with 1374 viewsdcd14

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:13 - Nov 28 by westside

Thought Grimes was shocking


Really?

One of the better performances tonight.
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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:42 - Nov 28 with 1371 viewsjackrmee

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:13 - Nov 28 by westside

Thought Grimes was shocking


Thought Grimes was one of our best players.

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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:43 - Nov 28 with 1366 viewsjackrmee

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 20:45 - Nov 28 by Glyn1

Of course I'm not happy that we're a goal down, but up to then it's been a good match to watch. The BBC and others say that we've been playing the better football so there must be SOME of our team who are playing well, why not mention them as well?


Frustrating indeed. Yeah we were definitely the better side. They came into it the second half though.
2 awful, identical goals.
Some good, some bad performances.

I thought CCV was solid, don't think he made a mistake.
Dan was working hard, but still hasn't got the end product. It will come.
Olsson had a very good game and put some dangerous balls in the box.
Grimes did a more than decent job in the middle.

Connor did bog all out there and didn't run a lot. No service and not used to the back 3.
Both Rodon and VDH were poor I think and made a few mistakes along with slow build up.
Celina was very sluggish again.

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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:43 - Nov 28 with 1366 viewsdcd14

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:42 - Nov 28 by jackrmee

Thought Grimes was one of our best players.


This!
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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 00:03 - Nov 29 with 1335 viewsairedale

I thought Grimes was good too. For me though, crossing the ball into the goal area just plays into the hands of a well drilled defence of a modern football side. Defences these days are really organised. And with us being a ball-on-the-floor passing side, it doesn’t seem to suit us at all. Maybe it would if we had a couple of that kind of giant hanging around their goal area.
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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 00:10 - Nov 29 with 1333 viewsEU5Makaveli

We were average, not much between the sides to be honest, the contrast of defending was the difference.
Their goals were shocking from our point of view.

Grimes and Carter-Vickers were decent imo, majority of the rest were indifferent. Although I thought Celina, McBurnie and VDH were poor considering the standards they have set throughout most of the season.
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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 00:19 - Nov 29 with 1310 viewsjackrmee

GP said this about his change of formation and the terrible set piece defending...

“I thought that went really well,” (the change of formation).

“The way they set up their attacking three challenges a conventional set-up.

“If you watch their game against Leeds, they destroyed a good team because of what they do in the transition.

“I can’t remember any chances for them and we got Dan through. We played through them with courage.

“But of course we didn’t do well enough in the key area and that’s the two goals.

“We didn’t defend the set-pieces well enough against a team who are strong on them, and it’s disappointing because it has cost us dearly.”

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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 00:57 - Nov 29 with 1279 viewsbuilthjack

Fer's positioning for both of their goals was schoolboy marking.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 01:04 - Nov 29 with 1277 viewsjasper_T

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 00:57 - Nov 29 by builthjack

Fer's positioning for both of their goals was schoolboy marking.


I don't think he's ever been taught defending beyond "get stuck in" and "put yourself about".
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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 06:04 - Nov 29 with 1177 viewsCaptain_Sham

Dan James has three assists this season. How many times has he been 'clear' of his man ?
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Its just a ride.

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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 08:02 - Nov 29 with 1110 viewsLeonWasGod

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 23:13 - Nov 28 by westside

Thought Grimes was shocking


First 20 aside, I thought he was poor too. Neither he nor Fer gave the CBs options for a quick ball out from the back. His stats will probably be ok, but he did little to influence the game.
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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 11:38 - Nov 29 with 986 viewsjasper_T

The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 06:04 - Nov 29 by Captain_Sham

Dan James has three assists this season. How many times has he been 'clear' of his man ?
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More than everyone else in our squad combined.
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The Official Swansea City Vs West Bromwich Albion Match Thread on 11:53 - Nov 29 with 979 viewsploppy

How many times did VdH have to carry the ball forward because none of the midfield were showing for him? I think WBA were more than happy for him to do that. Back in the day, Leon would be making himself available in those areas - we still don't have people willing to do that.

Other than that, Dan James needs to work on his finishing, Celina needs to start doing stuff (apart from the gorgeous ball for James, which he should have buried), and we need to start attacking the high ball from corners and free kicks. Roberts seems to have gone backwards lately also.
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