| Lockdown UK 21:00 - Mar 23 with 837 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
What was just announced?
UK PM Boris Johnson has just announced a major ramping up of coronavirus measures.
Here are the major points of his speech:
From tonight, people in Britain will be allowed to leave their homes for only “very limited purposes” - shopping for basic necessities; for one form of exercise a day; for any medical need; and to travel to and from work when “absolutely necessary”
People are warned not to meet friends or family members who they do not live with
Shopping is only permitted for essentials like food and medicine, and people are advised to do it “as little as you can”
Police have powers to enforce the rules, including through fines and dispersing gatherings
All shops selling non-essential goods, such as clothing and electronic stores, are ordered to close
Libraries, playgrounds, outdoor gyms and places of worship are to close
All gatherings of more than two people in public - excluding people you live with - are banned
All social events, including weddings and baptisms are banned
Funerals are not included in the new restrictions
Parks will remain open for exercise but gatherings will be dispersed
Restrictions “under constant review” and will be checked again in three weeks. They will be relaxed “if the evidence shows we are able to” |  |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| Lockdown UK on 21:53 - Mar 23 with 525 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
Not quite European standard though.
Not sure how they can enforce "People are warned not to meet friends or family members who they do not live with" or "one form of exercise a day".
Also can't understand why airports, ports and the channel tunnel are still open to travellers.
Pity I can't watch The Donald's briefing tonight, should be a classic after some of his tweets today. [Post edited 23 Mar 2020 22:02]
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| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| Lockdown UK on 22:17 - Mar 23 with 517 views | Lala |
| Lockdown UK on 21:53 - Mar 23 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Not quite European standard though.
Not sure how they can enforce "People are warned not to meet friends or family members who they do not live with" or "one form of exercise a day".
Also can't understand why airports, ports and the channel tunnel are still open to travellers.
Pity I can't watch The Donald's briefing tonight, should be a classic after some of his tweets today. [Post edited 23 Mar 2020 22:02]
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Enforcement will be interesting ðŸ§
You’d like to think most of us have the sense for that not to be needed. We live in hope 🤦â€â™€ï¸ |  |
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| Lockdown UK on 07:49 - Mar 24 with 504 views | spudgun |
| Lockdown UK on 22:17 - Mar 23 by Lala |
Enforcement will be interesting ðŸ§
You’d like to think most of us have the sense for that not to be needed. We live in hope 🤦â€â™€ï¸ |
Even though Johnson dropped his `wiffle waffle` affectation, it wasn`t totally clear to me exactly which businesses were to be closed.
And there still doesn't appear to be any details online about the 80% government commitment to wages, nor any help for the self-employed.
And don`t get me started on what is happening at hospitals; the stories I`ve been told and cannot repeat are shameful and damning of the leadership in this country... |  | | |
| Lockdown UK on 07:58 - Mar 24 with 502 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 07:49 - Mar 24 by spudgun |
Even though Johnson dropped his `wiffle waffle` affectation, it wasn`t totally clear to me exactly which businesses were to be closed.
And there still doesn't appear to be any details online about the 80% government commitment to wages, nor any help for the self-employed.
And don`t get me started on what is happening at hospitals; the stories I`ve been told and cannot repeat are shameful and damning of the leadership in this country... |
After some confusion, the UK's housing minister posted this update. In short, builders can work if necessary - but must practise social distancing.
[Post edited 24 Mar 2020 8:16]
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| Lockdown UK on 08:29 - Mar 24 with 495 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 07:58 - Mar 24 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
After some confusion, the UK's housing minister posted this update. In short, builders can work if necessary - but must practise social distancing.
[Post edited 24 Mar 2020 8:16]
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Spud
From what I've read/heard Self Employed might get help from applying for Universal Credit. Think the Chancellor will announce it the week, once they finish working out how it will operate. | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| Lockdown UK on 08:59 - Mar 24 with 488 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 08:29 - Mar 24 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Spud
From what I've read/heard Self Employed might get help from applying for Universal Credit. Think the Chancellor will announce it the week, once they finish working out how it will operate. |
Spud
Here's the Bill going through Parliament now
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/58-01/110/5801110.pdf | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| Lockdown UK on 09:05 - Mar 24 with 484 views | spudgun |
Yep thanks Red.
Doesn't really apply to me, but most of our customers are in that boat and have been fretting... | | | |
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| Lockdown UK on 09:10 - Mar 24 with 482 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 09:05 - Mar 24 by spudgun |
Yep thanks Red.
Doesn't really apply to me, but most of our customers are in that boat and have been fretting... |
TBH Spell, I've got you down as a cross between Tom Good, and The Lord of The Manor. 😜 | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| Lockdown UK on 09:12 - Mar 24 with 479 views | spudgun |
| Lockdown UK on 09:10 - Mar 24 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
TBH Spell, I've got you down as a cross between Tom Good, and The Lord of The Manor. 😜 |
More Tom Waits and Lord of the Flies please...  | | | |
| Lockdown UK on 09:14 - Mar 24 with 478 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 09:10 - Mar 24 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
TBH Spell, I've got you down as a cross between Tom Good, and The Lord of The Manor. 😜 |
UK children can visit separated parents - Gove
UK cabinet minister Michael Gove has been asked to provide more clarity on the government guidelines announced on Monday night.
Speaking on Radio 4's Today programme, he said:
Chancellor Rishi Sunak will outline more help for self-employed workers later
Deliveries of "non-essential" goods such as toys and clothes can continue
He says people should work from home "wherever possible" but there will be exceptions.
For example, he says plumbers may be called out to emergencies but Sports Direct stores "should not be open"
Ministers want to "reduce the rate of infection" and will follow scientific advice on whether or not to change the measures after three weeks
Children under the age of 18 can travel between the homes of separated parents - a point he reiterated on Twitter:
Mr Gove also addressed the question of whether people could visit elderly parents.
"The ideal thing to do is to maintain contact through social media. You can, of course, drop off items or groceries or other items that they request or need - if they're not in a position themselves to take a journey outside in order to shop."
He adds that the UK is rolling out a "network of support" for the most vulnerable. | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| Lockdown UK on 12:05 - Mar 24 with 470 views | spell_chekker |
| Lockdown UK on 09:14 - Mar 24 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
UK children can visit separated parents - Gove
UK cabinet minister Michael Gove has been asked to provide more clarity on the government guidelines announced on Monday night.
Speaking on Radio 4's Today programme, he said:
Chancellor Rishi Sunak will outline more help for self-employed workers later
Deliveries of "non-essential" goods such as toys and clothes can continue
He says people should work from home "wherever possible" but there will be exceptions.
For example, he says plumbers may be called out to emergencies but Sports Direct stores "should not be open"
Ministers want to "reduce the rate of infection" and will follow scientific advice on whether or not to change the measures after three weeks
Children under the age of 18 can travel between the homes of separated parents - a point he reiterated on Twitter:
Mr Gove also addressed the question of whether people could visit elderly parents.
"The ideal thing to do is to maintain contact through social media. You can, of course, drop off items or groceries or other items that they request or need - if they're not in a position themselves to take a journey outside in order to shop."
He adds that the UK is rolling out a "network of support" for the most vulnerable. |
What about work, are people still going to work? |  |
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| Lockdown UK on 12:05 - Mar 24 with 469 views | spell_chekker |
Interesting about places of worship having to close.
I'm surprised. | |
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| Lockdown UK on 17:29 - Mar 26 with 444 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 12:05 - Mar 24 by spell_chekker |
Interesting about places of worship having to close.
I'm surprised. |
Self-employed workers will be able to apply for a grant of up to £2,500 a month to help them cope with the financial impact of coronavirus, the chancellor has announced.
The money will be paid in a single lump sum, but will not begin to arrive until the start of June at the earliest.
Rishi Sunak told the self-employed: "You have not been forgotten."
Plans for 80% wage subsidies for staff kept on by employers were announced last week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52053914
Think what the Chancellor said about after looking at this, that going forward everyone has to contribute in taxes or NI (or words to that effect) was interesting. | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| Lockdown UK on 19:18 - Mar 26 with 435 views | spell_chekker |
| Lockdown UK on 17:29 - Mar 26 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Self-employed workers will be able to apply for a grant of up to £2,500 a month to help them cope with the financial impact of coronavirus, the chancellor has announced.
The money will be paid in a single lump sum, but will not begin to arrive until the start of June at the earliest.
Rishi Sunak told the self-employed: "You have not been forgotten."
Plans for 80% wage subsidies for staff kept on by employers were announced last week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52053914
Think what the Chancellor said about after looking at this, that going forward everyone has to contribute in taxes or NI (or words to that effect) was interesting. |
Shouldn't self employed be insured?
I'm split on this. After all, they've chosen their path and then want to fall back on the social system.
By definition, self employed have different obligations, rights, and potential rewards to salaried staff. [Post edited 26 Mar 2020 19:19]
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| Lockdown UK on 19:25 - Mar 26 with 426 views | spudgun |
| Lockdown UK on 17:29 - Mar 26 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Self-employed workers will be able to apply for a grant of up to £2,500 a month to help them cope with the financial impact of coronavirus, the chancellor has announced.
The money will be paid in a single lump sum, but will not begin to arrive until the start of June at the earliest.
Rishi Sunak told the self-employed: "You have not been forgotten."
Plans for 80% wage subsidies for staff kept on by employers were announced last week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52053914
Think what the Chancellor said about after looking at this, that going forward everyone has to contribute in taxes or NI (or words to that effect) was interesting. |
Over Wyre report:
Sunshine all the way today, second consecutive outing for shorts - legs turning from winter blue back to white, and face red and blotchy from the sun. I look very patriotic.
Lots of walkers around the lanes last two days, much more than usual - everyone extremely polite and slightly subdued... | | | |
| Lockdown UK on 06:52 - Mar 27 with 407 views | spell_chekker |
| Lockdown UK on 19:25 - Mar 26 by spudgun |
Over Wyre report:
Sunshine all the way today, second consecutive outing for shorts - legs turning from winter blue back to white, and face red and blotchy from the sun. I look very patriotic.
Lots of walkers around the lanes last two days, much more than usual - everyone extremely polite and slightly subdued... |
Lockdown is all the more tolerable when the sun's out.
Of course, when the lockdown was announced, it didn't mean country lane walkers had to abide by it.
There's no way people like that would spread the virus around. | |
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| Lockdown UK on 10:35 - Mar 27 with 399 views | spudgun |
| Lockdown UK on 06:52 - Mar 27 by spell_chekker |
Lockdown is all the more tolerable when the sun's out.
Of course, when the lockdown was announced, it didn't mean country lane walkers had to abide by it.
There's no way people like that would spread the virus around. |
Over Wyre early bulletin:
Bumped into an irate local whilst walking this morning who claimed the village is being overrun with walkers and cyclists, and she had told two "to f*** off home, as you`re not from round here!"
Looks like its beginning to turn a little Royston Vasey.
Updates throughout the day... | | | |
| Lockdown UK on 10:38 - Mar 27 with 396 views | basilrobbiereborn |
| Lockdown UK on 10:35 - Mar 27 by spudgun |
Over Wyre early bulletin:
Bumped into an irate local whilst walking this morning who claimed the village is being overrun with walkers and cyclists, and she had told two "to f*** off home, as you`re not from round here!"
Looks like its beginning to turn a little Royston Vasey.
Updates throughout the day... |
My Borough is now the 11th most affected in England. I'm pleasantly surprise we aren't higher, to be honest. d
We are staying in now until Sunday, when we will go shopping for fresh fruit and vegetables. Everything else largely under control due to my Missus being a bit of a clairvoyant. | |
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| Lockdown UK on 10:44 - Mar 27 with 390 views | spudgun |
| Lockdown UK on 10:38 - Mar 27 by basilrobbiereborn |
My Borough is now the 11th most affected in England. I'm pleasantly surprise we aren't higher, to be honest. d
We are staying in now until Sunday, when we will go shopping for fresh fruit and vegetables. Everything else largely under control due to my Missus being a bit of a clairvoyant. |
Heard yesterday that the true death figures at a local hospital were being suppressed by the CEO to avoid further panic. | | | |
| Lockdown UK on 10:49 - Mar 27 with 389 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 10:44 - Mar 27 by spudgun |
Heard yesterday that the true death figures at a local hospital were being suppressed by the CEO to avoid further panic. |
The Government figures are only for those tested who died in Hospital. They are not including deaths at nursing or care homes or general deaths in the population at large.
Got lucky with my shopping as usually only do a big one once a month online. Did this one about 4 days before the Lockdown. Already booked my slot for next month. [Post edited 27 Mar 2020 10:54]
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| Lockdown UK on 15:52 - Mar 27 with 373 views | spell_chekker |
| Lockdown UK on 10:49 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
The Government figures are only for those tested who died in Hospital. They are not including deaths at nursing or care homes or general deaths in the population at large.
Got lucky with my shopping as usually only do a big one once a month online. Did this one about 4 days before the Lockdown. Already booked my slot for next month. [Post edited 27 Mar 2020 10:54]
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Crikey for the spin on the death figures, I hope you're joking.
I've ot a bad feeling about the UK.
Perhaps not the biggest one but I'm concerned it may become one of the epicentres of the virus after the USA.
Lytham, Over Wyre, and is it Pimlico? All to become peoples' republics to ward off the carriers. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, you heard it here first. | |
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| Lockdown UK on 16:31 - Mar 27 with 368 views | basilrobbiereborn |
| Lockdown UK on 15:52 - Mar 27 by spell_chekker |
Crikey for the spin on the death figures, I hope you're joking.
I've ot a bad feeling about the UK.
Perhaps not the biggest one but I'm concerned it may become one of the epicentres of the virus after the USA.
Lytham, Over Wyre, and is it Pimlico? All to become peoples' republics to ward off the carriers. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, you heard it here first. |
Pimlico is a nice place e, seriously nice. Adjacent to Belgravia, don't you know. We like to dine out there in more normal times. | |
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| Lockdown UK on 16:42 - Mar 27 with 363 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| Lockdown UK on 16:31 - Mar 27 by basilrobbiereborn |
Pimlico is a nice place e, seriously nice. Adjacent to Belgravia, don't you know. We like to dine out there in more normal times. |
Spell
Here's the tweet from yesterday
The sheer scale of this means they will probably, quite rightly only test patients first. Wider testing will just use up too many resources and staff (also a lack of testing kits) at the moment.
It's the same in a lot of countries around the world, saw the other day the French Health Minister saying their figures were only for Hospital Deaths.
They aren't fixing the figures, it's just people don't read or listen properly to what's being said.
PS
Today's tweet
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| Lockdown UK on 10:22 - Mar 28 with 336 views | spell_chekker |
| Lockdown UK on 16:42 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Spell
Here's the tweet from yesterday
The sheer scale of this means they will probably, quite rightly only test patients first. Wider testing will just use up too many resources and staff (also a lack of testing kits) at the moment.
It's the same in a lot of countries around the world, saw the other day the French Health Minister saying their figures were only for Hospital Deaths.
They aren't fixing the figures, it's just people don't read or listen properly to what's being said.
PS
Today's tweet
[Post edited 27 Mar 2020 16:48]
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The thing about only hospital cases / deaths being counted is frightening. | |
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