| Us versus THEM 12:35 - Jan 18 with 682 views | johnlangy |
There are nearly seventy million people living in the UK and in theory this is how the country should work.
We live in a democracy. Every five years we vote in a General Election and elect a Government to run the country. The job of those politicians in the elected party is to run the country on behalf of us all, for the good of everyone. We agree to provide the Government with money (tax) to do that and the Government, working on our behalf, passes our money on to organisations like the police, the NHS, councils etc etc and those organisations are tasked with providing services which are all part of what we would describe as a civilised society.
That’s the theory.
I’d intended to create this thread after seeing Margaret Aspinall interviewed on TV after the Hillsborough Law was passed. She said that they’d been fighting for that moment since 1989, thirty six years. And during that time the families of the victims had to raise themselves all the money they needed to pay for barristers to fight their case. Meanwhile all the organisations they were fighting – the City council, police, the ambulance service – were all able to hire their own legal counsel, the best available. Using our money.
So all those organisations had access to the taxes paid by Margaret and all the other families and all of us while the families had access to nothing.
That made me think of all the other scandals that have come to light over recent times – the Post Office and the infected blood scandal to name just two. As far as I know the same applies there, certainly it did with the postmasters one.
So what we appear to have is Governments of all persuasions who set up these organisations (or pay for them at least) using our money. And when something goes wrong, never mind whether they are at fault, those organisations automatically look to protect themselves. They lie and deceive and do anything they can to avoid accepting blame for their own mistakes.
These organisations are run by people who are paid very well, certainly far more than the majority of us could ever hope to be paid. And they are paid that money out of our taxes. But they don’t care that their money is actually ours. They don’t care about the tragic situation innocent people find themselves in. They don’t care about looking for the truth. They just care about themselves.
Any one of us could possibly end up in a similar dreadful situation at any moment in time.
And there appears to be nothing we can do about it. |  | | |  |
| Us versus THEM on 21:05 - Jan 18 with 580 views | oldtownjack |
Great post. They are suppsed to represent us and rarely do.
I remember a few years ago on Question Time an audience member picking up the politcians on the panel for saying 5 years in power and said they should be saying 5 years in service.
(A bit like the hiercahy at the WRU at moment. Their inflated salaries and elevated positions make them forge that they are working for the clubs and people invloved in them).
Hillsborough and the PO scandal were despicable and God knows how many other things have gone on. | |
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| Us versus THEM on 21:39 - Jan 18 with 545 views | majorraglan |
Police forces can use their income from the public purse to pay for solicitors, but I’m pretty sure the actual police officers themselves will have their bills picked up by the Police Federation while police staff, ambulance personnel etc are represented by lawyers hired by the staff association or Union. | | | |
| Us versus THEM on 01:06 - Jan 19 with 468 views | Robbie |
Labour Party scared of going to Local Elections in May in a few weeks in England .
What do they do , make excuses and defer the Electorial System voting until this useless leader Starmer will come up with real changes to make him a media headline act .
A Party for the working man , forget it and roll on May in Cardiff other options .
Another rant and HMRC have recently informed me I have to pay back £400 over a underpayment of my dues recently .
Well over retirement age and still try to do my bit as a part time shelf stocker .
Sometimes just why do I bother anymore . | | | |
| Us versus THEM on 09:10 - Jan 19 with 363 views | onehunglow |
| Us versus THEM on 01:06 - Jan 19 by Robbie |
Labour Party scared of going to Local Elections in May in a few weeks in England .
What do they do , make excuses and defer the Electorial System voting until this useless leader Starmer will come up with real changes to make him a media headline act .
A Party for the working man , forget it and roll on May in Cardiff other options .
Another rant and HMRC have recently informed me I have to pay back £400 over a underpayment of my dues recently .
Well over retirement age and still try to do my bit as a part time shelf stocker .
Sometimes just why do I bother anymore . |
Any party using the phrase “ working man” is not to be trusted | |
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| Us versus THEM on 18:41 - Jan 19 with 252 views | shingle |
There is a reason why them are far superior to us, one little simple reason are those that drive around at 15 to 18 mph making sure they obey the demands of a handful of thems 'and desperately making sure they do not go above 20mph.it is because there are so many of these types that we will stay repressed,. there are many of us who of course will take no notice of the wrong decisions made by them and carefully go against what they say but sadly there are simply not enough to do anything about it due to the amount of weak minded servants who will obey and do everything they are told to do. | | | |
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