| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY 14:49 - May 23 with 15390 views | carrotcrunch_R |
For extreme Crimes like those 2 insane nutters that brutally murdered an innocent British soldiers and that scum Ian Huntley be free too add to this list who you think deserves to be terminated or do you disagree and think they deserve to live and be pampered by the state . Over to you lfw posters you are now the jury. |  | | |  |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 13:46 - May 24 with 1542 views | NW5Hoop |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 13:42 - May 24 by QPunkR |
On the other hand, keeping the murderers in a warm cell and ensuring they get the maximum amount of state money in their council flat once they're released won't bring back their son either... |
Well, they get fortysomething quid and no right to housing when they get released, don't they? Which is one reason why so many people released from prison reoffend so quickly …
On the other point, I didn't suggest imprisoning killers would somehow help the victims' families. Whereas the suggestion was made that killing them would. So you're knocking over a straw man there. |  | | |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 14:07 - May 24 with 1529 views | carrotcrunch_R |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 13:32 - May 24 by NW5Hoop |
Have the victim's mum and dad come forward to say they want the death sentence? If not, I don't think you should be speaking on their behalf. You cannot presume they would react the same as you.
And will killing the murderers bring their son back? No. It will not change anything. It will not ease their grief.
Believing that a society that condemns killing should not practise it does not make anyone a "do gooder". |
I wasn't speaking on anyone's behalf they are all my own words and thoughts tyvm and replying to your other post I never said killing them would help them get over there grief . I said they are better dead than alive meaning if they are dead they will be forgotten about in years to come instead of resurfacing into the news everytime they speak or some newspaper wants a story to sell papers like ian Brady Myra hindley (deceased now thank god)like Ian Huntley like rosé west like the Yorkshire ripper get rid of them victim families don't need to keep on hearing about the shocking crimes they have committed. | | | |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:03 - May 24 with 1502 views | DylanP |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 12:45 - May 24 by TheBlob |
Well there you go then.Not having a pop but it seems to be a paradoxical "don't know what I want and will fight to the death in order to achieve it" kind of scenario.Buggered if I know what the soution is in real terms.All I know is we've become over civilised.If you keep bowing down to aggression you're going to get steamrollered,or sticking a paper bag over the head and pretend everything's all right.I suppose one solution is to leg it somewhere else and then pontificate at length from safety,not everyone can do that of course.I did because I saw all this shit coming.I was lucky. |
And here is the thing, Britain is a great country, in part, BECAUSE of the legal system. Yes, it s true there are always weak spined ninnies who will tell you that the country is going to the dogs, but in fact the opposite is true.
While Britain is not perfect, it is good enough that this sort of violent crime is incredibly shocking. Because there are lots and lots of countries where this sort of violence isn't shocking at all. There are dozens of countries in the world where extreme violence is the norm, not the exception and where a crime such as this one barely registers.
So, you live in one of the most peaceful countries on the planet, and you think that the way to make it even more peaceful is to inject a little state sponsored violence? Hmm, forgive me for thinking that you probably haven't thought it through. |  |
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:05 - May 24 with 1500 views | Bedford_R |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:03 - May 24 by DylanP |
And here is the thing, Britain is a great country, in part, BECAUSE of the legal system. Yes, it s true there are always weak spined ninnies who will tell you that the country is going to the dogs, but in fact the opposite is true.
While Britain is not perfect, it is good enough that this sort of violent crime is incredibly shocking. Because there are lots and lots of countries where this sort of violence isn't shocking at all. There are dozens of countries in the world where extreme violence is the norm, not the exception and where a crime such as this one barely registers.
So, you live in one of the most peaceful countries on the planet, and you think that the way to make it even more peaceful is to inject a little state sponsored violence? Hmm, forgive me for thinking that you probably haven't thought it through. |
Too farking right.... |  |
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:25 - May 24 with 1489 views | carrotcrunch_R |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:03 - May 24 by DylanP |
And here is the thing, Britain is a great country, in part, BECAUSE of the legal system. Yes, it s true there are always weak spined ninnies who will tell you that the country is going to the dogs, but in fact the opposite is true.
While Britain is not perfect, it is good enough that this sort of violent crime is incredibly shocking. Because there are lots and lots of countries where this sort of violence isn't shocking at all. There are dozens of countries in the world where extreme violence is the norm, not the exception and where a crime such as this one barely registers.
So, you live in one of the most peaceful countries on the planet, and you think that the way to make it even more peaceful is to inject a little state sponsored violence? Hmm, forgive me for thinking that you probably haven't thought it through. |
Eh it still does not make this crime or any brutal cold blooded murder acceptable still all you nice moral people with your nice moral opinions havnt given a decent reason why we should let these people that have committed these acts of atrocities live . I will tell you why you havnt it is because you can't whilst I and others have given a number of reason of why they should be put down why can't you see that they don't deserve a life for what they did. | | | |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 00:10 - May 25 with 1461 views | Antti_Heinola |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:25 - May 24 by carrotcrunch_R |
Eh it still does not make this crime or any brutal cold blooded murder acceptable still all you nice moral people with your nice moral opinions havnt given a decent reason why we should let these people that have committed these acts of atrocities live . I will tell you why you havnt it is because you can't whilst I and others have given a number of reason of why they should be put down why can't you see that they don't deserve a life for what they did. |
Here's the reason: because it's wrong. |  |
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 00:12 - May 25 with 1457 views | wombat |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:03 - May 24 by DylanP |
And here is the thing, Britain is a great country, in part, BECAUSE of the legal system. Yes, it s true there are always weak spined ninnies who will tell you that the country is going to the dogs, but in fact the opposite is true.
While Britain is not perfect, it is good enough that this sort of violent crime is incredibly shocking. Because there are lots and lots of countries where this sort of violence isn't shocking at all. There are dozens of countries in the world where extreme violence is the norm, not the exception and where a crime such as this one barely registers.
So, you live in one of the most peaceful countries on the planet, and you think that the way to make it even more peaceful is to inject a little state sponsored violence? Hmm, forgive me for thinking that you probably haven't thought it through. |
Dylan I've thought it through as has carrot cruncher and I'm still all for it
47 years old
Used to be labour voter and yes this country is fecked and has been for quite a few
It's to easy in this country now to easy to enter to ease to ponce of to easy to get expensive NHS treatment then feck off and not pay
Commit a crime and the likely hood is your end up doing half if not less of the time your supposed to . Murder some kids 30 years in jail , murder a solder prob the same, they will live a better life inside than they ever had outside , better living conditions yes no freedom thank feck and I'm fecking paying for them !
Something has to change to prevent these type of murders happening again and again.
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 09:04 - May 25 with 1431 views | TheBlob |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:03 - May 24 by DylanP |
And here is the thing, Britain is a great country, in part, BECAUSE of the legal system. Yes, it s true there are always weak spined ninnies who will tell you that the country is going to the dogs, but in fact the opposite is true.
While Britain is not perfect, it is good enough that this sort of violent crime is incredibly shocking. Because there are lots and lots of countries where this sort of violence isn't shocking at all. There are dozens of countries in the world where extreme violence is the norm, not the exception and where a crime such as this one barely registers.
So, you live in one of the most peaceful countries on the planet, and you think that the way to make it even more peaceful is to inject a little state sponsored violence? Hmm, forgive me for thinking that you probably haven't thought it through. |
Don't patronise me Pressman.Never forget that your cosy little Great Britain has been forged by quite a lot of state sponsored violence down the years.And don't come running when it all comes on top. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 13:29 - May 25 with 1395 views | baz_qpr |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 00:12 - May 25 by wombat |
Dylan I've thought it through as has carrot cruncher and I'm still all for it
47 years old
Used to be labour voter and yes this country is fecked and has been for quite a few
It's to easy in this country now to easy to enter to ease to ponce of to easy to get expensive NHS treatment then feck off and not pay
Commit a crime and the likely hood is your end up doing half if not less of the time your supposed to . Murder some kids 30 years in jail , murder a solder prob the same, they will live a better life inside than they ever had outside , better living conditions yes no freedom thank feck and I'm fecking paying for them !
Something has to change to prevent these type of murders happening again and again.
This post was sponsered by Stella Artois . |
Out of interest what is your experience of Prison to say that it is much better inside than outside? |  | | |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 13:48 - May 25 with 1392 views | NW5Hoop |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:25 - May 24 by carrotcrunch_R |
Eh it still does not make this crime or any brutal cold blooded murder acceptable still all you nice moral people with your nice moral opinions havnt given a decent reason why we should let these people that have committed these acts of atrocities live . I will tell you why you havnt it is because you can't whilst I and others have given a number of reason of why they should be put down why can't you see that they don't deserve a life for what they did. |
And you haven't given a reason why they should be executed. Other than that they deserve it, which isn't actually a reason, more an assertion. | | | |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 14:51 - May 25 with 1379 views | DylanP |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:25 - May 24 by carrotcrunch_R |
Eh it still does not make this crime or any brutal cold blooded murder acceptable still all you nice moral people with your nice moral opinions havnt given a decent reason why we should let these people that have committed these acts of atrocities live . I will tell you why you havnt it is because you can't whilst I and others have given a number of reason of why they should be put down why can't you see that they don't deserve a life for what they did. |
I have given lots of reasons any one of which would be sufficient:
1. It lets the murderer off easy.
2. It costs the state more;
3. It doesn't act as a deterrent
4. The state will inevitably end up killing an innocent person;
5. When the state encourages violence, you end up with a more violent society;
6. It is wrong.
It always confuses me when people use "moral" as if its an insult. So, I guess your point is that I am a "moral person" (and apparently you think that is a bad thing) and you are an immoral person (and apparently you think that is a good thing). Personally, I don't see how being a "moral person" can be a bad thing. And I don't see how being an immoral person can be a good thing. Yes, I will admit it, I live my life trying to be a moral person. I try and think through the things I do and act in moral ways. I try and encourage my children to act in moral ways. And, yes, when it comes to govmt policy/law etc I think that the country should act in a moral way too. Sorry if that offends you, but I don't see how that is bad. Please explain.
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 18:40 - May 25 with 1350 views | carrotcrunch_R |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 00:10 - May 25 by Antti_Heinola |
Here's the reason: because it's wrong. |
It is wrong to murder
It is wrong that his son now doesn't have a dad
It is wrong that his parents now don't have a son
It is wrong that he was brutally hacked too death with sharp weapons
I could carry on and on but I am going out now for a drink I just hope I don't get blown up by suicide bomber as there is no justice that will be served to them if they get caught. If they have any morals they will let me finish my pint first otherwise i will be really p*ssed off if they didn't. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 18:44 - May 25 with 1345 views | carrotcrunch_R |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 14:51 - May 25 by DylanP |
I have given lots of reasons any one of which would be sufficient:
1. It lets the murderer off easy.
2. It costs the state more;
3. It doesn't act as a deterrent
4. The state will inevitably end up killing an innocent person;
5. When the state encourages violence, you end up with a more violent society;
6. It is wrong.
It always confuses me when people use "moral" as if its an insult. So, I guess your point is that I am a "moral person" (and apparently you think that is a bad thing) and you are an immoral person (and apparently you think that is a good thing). Personally, I don't see how being a "moral person" can be a bad thing. And I don't see how being an immoral person can be a good thing. Yes, I will admit it, I live my life trying to be a moral person. I try and think through the things I do and act in moral ways. I try and encourage my children to act in moral ways. And, yes, when it comes to govmt policy/law etc I think that the country should act in a moral way too. Sorry if that offends you, but I don't see how that is bad. Please explain.
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I just seen your joke thread so not going too comment further on the subject of what is moral and immoral. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 19:55 - May 25 with 1325 views | QPRDave |
Can't believe any english person would ask for the death penalty
you know what we're like
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| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 21:14 - May 25 with 1309 views | andygg |
| BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY on 09:54 - May 24 by carrotcrunch_R |
This is a message to all the do gooders that want to keep these killers alive because they have morals . As a parent I always want to make sure I am around to protect my family and obviously hope we are protected when we are out and about.
So let me tell you this I DON'T CARE if the death sentence acts as a deterrent or not.
I DON'T CARE if you think it is about revenge which it isn't it is about justice.
I DON'T CARE if it makes them martyrs in which it won't is hitler one ?is bin laden one? Is gadaffi one? Is Stalin one? Only lunatics follow and worship those people.
You think they suffer in prison because they don't have freedom well if they were change by feet and hands to the wall and fed by a straw or have to do hard slave labour for the rest of there lives I might agree. Fortunately we live in a civilise country and this won't happen although you lot would be on your moral high ground again if it did lol. So you think they suffer in prison then I am afraid you are just quite simply deluded . Let me tell you who suffers the life sentences it is THE VICTIMS MUM And DAD that suffer the life sentences . The people I am on about are brutal killers and like holloway said the police should have shot them dead while they had the chance but now they will carry on having a voice ,carry on making the news and carry on bringing back the hurt to the victims families every time this happens. Also when speaking about this I will throw in Ian Huntley Ian Brady Peter suttcliffe rose west and more into this category all deserve termination in my opinion. These are all people without morals so let's not be moral with them . [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Good post mate, I agree 100%.
I cant stand it when people say, "If you execute a murderer, then you are no better yourself".
Well that's just a load of bollocks.
Evil cnts like Sutcliffe, Brady, Islamic nutters etc, have given up their right to live.
1 bullet in the head, end of. FFS. |  | | |
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