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Name and reputation 14:44 - Jul 23 with 1927 views

Our club have been embarrassed in the past couple of years due to arrogance and the signing of 'big name' players with 'big reputations' on 'big money'.

I remember exactly the mood before our promotion season when we had Palace, Plymouth, Bristol City & Sheff Utd fans on here slating our signings and telling us we were signing dirge like Derry, Hill, Kenny, Mackie & Orr. And QPR fans weren't only listening, they were agreeing and having a pop at Warnock and the boards for bringing in no-marks.

When will we learn? Players do not perform based on technical skills and fitness alone. They are (although massively over-privilidged) human beings who need the correct preparation, support structure, work/life balance just like the rest of us. They also need to integrate into a team mentality by working hard, being played with the correct players to compliment their style, being trained properly and effectively by people who will dedicate their time to getting them to perform. Its a very delicate balance and it doesnt always work out, even for the most talented players.

I can guarantee that if QPR fans were given the chance to swap the players I have mentioned above for 'bigger names' at the time about 80% would have done so, and I wonder where we would have been then.

So whether we sign Thierry Henry, Karl Henry, Gary Hooper or Brett bloody Angell, lets just accept the signing and judge them on performance alone 15-20 games in? Price tag and past performance be damned!

Name and reputation on 14:58 - Jul 23 with 1880 views

Antti_Heinola

It's got nothing to do with what you're writing about. I don't think any QPR fan has ever demanded we sign big names apart from a brief period when everyone agreed we needed some prem quality players, once we were in the prem. People were underwhelmed by some of the signings in the promotion year, but we are allowed to use our knowledge of players we have seen play. We're allowed to have that opinion. And the opinion of most people who know about Henry is that he's not much of a player. I liked Hill and Derry, and Palace fans I knew were furious that they left. The sign was: Palace wanted to keep them. Wolves, in League One, don't want Henry!

Bare bones.

Name and reputation on 15:45 - Jul 23 with 1812 views

Juzzie

I've got no problem with players needing man-management, training, support etc but they have to be receptive to that, listen hard, work hard, have some humility.

Not swan around in gold Bently's and with gun tattoos or earphones the size of dustbin lids rubbing it in our face... loadsamoneyyyyyy.

You say a work/life balance which I agree is important but, again, hardly do themselves any favours when spending all their money in casino's, £250 bottles of champagne in nightclubs, spit-roasting any eager brainless wannabe-WAG, more interested in making perfume, clothing, watch brands and so on.

All of that is hardly condusive to a work/life balance.

They laugh at us 'cos they earn so much money, they don't have to do anything anyone tells them. Fined £30,000? Meh, pocket money.

Name and reputation on 15:59 - Jul 23 with 1781 views

fakekerby

Name and reputation on 15:45 - Jul 23 by Juzzie

There's plenty of lads on less than 20k a year who spend all their money in casinos, spent a good proportion of their income on a night out, try it on with any bird they see.... why should a footballer be any different? and most aren't even like that, or we'd see it in the tabloids every day... there's just a few cocky prats like in every walk of life.

Name and reputation on 16:50 - Jul 23 with 1725 views

THEBUSH

What QPR do, is our problem, if others don't like it, tough, that's their problem.

Name and reputation on 17:34 - Jul 23 with 1689 views

Juzzie

Name and reputation on 15:59 - Jul 23 by fakekerby
There's plenty of lads on less than 20k a year who spend all their money in casinos, spent a good proportion of their income on a night out, try it on with any bird they see.... why should a footballer be any different? and most aren't even like that, or we'd see it in the tabloids every day... there's just a few cocky prats like in every walk of life.

True, but how are footballers meant to focus on their job when they're doing all of that. It's bad enough at work when people used to turn up in the morning with hangovers but they usually got away with it. Footballers need to be at the peak of fitness etc. They can't do that if they've been out until 4am etc etc.

Proportionally, how many athletes, cyclists, boxers, cricketers etc etc get into the some antics as footballers? Much less I'd imagine.

Agreed most aren't like that but when we have the antics of some splashed all over the media, it does tarnish the rest.

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