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Ballon d'Or
at 22:44 29 Nov 2021

It’s more the fact that Jorginho came 3rd! That gobsmacked me! I mean yeah he’s won the champions league and europa league, but it’s not like he was a star player for ether of those two teams. I mean how the likes of Salah, De Brune, Mbape etc were lower than him is just stupid
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Wearing a mask
at 22:42 29 Nov 2021

Well wearing a face mask does help, but it doesn’t prevent COVID fullstop, or they’d just make it a law to wear it 24.07
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The Omicron Varient
at 21:40 29 Nov 2021

This sure is one interesting thread to read. Both sides have certainly got major points, and minor ones, as well as there being some people on both sides that are clearly some sort of flat earther/David ickes fan, or those OTT Covid people that’ll wear face masks in there own cars and think that everything should be shut down until Covid gone/everyone’s vaccinated.
But overall in conclusion I think both sides have points, as I do think that people should get vaccinated (but it should be up to them) although if they decide not to then they should expect to miss out on a thing or two, but I don’t think that we need to go into all these lockdowns and face mask rules as Covid’s here to stay and no matter what happens with the vaccinations and such, to get through this and keep people employed we just need to keep on going and not shutting everything down with lockdowns or forcing people to wear face mask, especially when a few weeks previously it looked like it was all ending.
As my major person issue is the inconsistency with the rules (as your told not to use cash here and there at pubs and such, yet your giving them glasses there and back, and how your meant to keep windows open for ventilation at work/education system, yet there’s none of that on public transport or such etc) as in the end, for it to really work you ether go lockdown full stop and do everything to stop it (like what New Zealand and Australia did in the first wave), or you make a few basic rules and just let people get on with it. But us just going back and forth just takes the p*ss and makes many wonder if it’s ever gonna end!?
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 22:45 27 Nov 2021

Just watched MOTD to see the first half, and sorry but I’m even more confused as to why Ralph’s getting all this stick!? As we had 4 great opportunities to score, and if they’d been Ings’s them he’d of probably scored all 4, or certainly at least 3 of them! But that’s shows that our attacking tactics are working seeing how we’re getting past some of the best defences in the world, but as we’ve only got championship strikers we can’t score them!
And with the defence well 3 of their 4 goals (if not 4 of the 4) just came from stupid/poor mistakes (the first was Bednerak’s, 2nd was Salisu’s/Livermento’s, 3rd was just a load of the players not in position which lead to it and the 4th was Romeu’s) which in the end is down to the lack of quality in the squad, rather than issues with the mangers tactics or such.
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 19:45 27 Nov 2021

I dunno if that sights the most accurate but yeah Liverpool certainly are in the top 5 and certainly one of the best teams in the world right now
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 19:42 27 Nov 2021

Yeah I agree that Man City and Chelsea are better than them, as well as PSG and Bayern Munich, but Barca and Real Madrid aren’t better (I only named them as they are still some of the best teams out there, but not better than any of the ones I’ve named above or Liverpool at the moment), and even if you were to add them in front then they’re 7th (whilst most people would agree they’re like 5th). But how the heck you rate South American Teams who always loose almost all their great players to European teams (hence why almost all the players in the Brazilian, Argentinian, Colombian etc teams are almost fully composed of players in Europe), RB Leipzig and Dortmund (both of which are out of the champions league (with Dortmund doing dreadful being behind the likes of Ajax and Sporting Lisbon! As well as Leipzig being 8th in the Bundesliga)) is just insane! As I’m certainly someone who’s far from loving Liverpool, but you can’t deny that they’re one of the best teams in the world right now, and in my view (and many others) there’s only 4 teams that are currently better than them across the whole world!
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How many points do you expect from Ralph over December for him to stay
at 17:32 27 Nov 2021

I personally expect around 9/10 or such as we should arguably win against Palace, Brighton and Brentford, as well as getting a draw or so against the likes of Leicester, West Ham and maybe Arsenal/Spurs, but of course we’re not gonna get all that hence why I’ve not said 13 points. But still it’ll be an interesting month as none of those games are ones that we expect nothing out of whatsoever like we did today.
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Ralph does read media comments after all.
at 17:29 27 Nov 2021

Yeah I agree that he can be tactically concerning sometimes, but his tactics can also work quite often and create many opportunities for us, as well as preventing the opposition from opportunities, but these are all forgotten/written off when our championship strikers/poor defence make a stupid mistake which costs us. And yeah he did loose 9-0 twice, but he also got us to an FA Cup semi final, top of the PL for the first time ever, and some great results shocking/beating some of the best teams in the world
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 17:24 27 Nov 2021

Are you actually being serious when you say that Liverpool aren’t one of the best teams in the world right now!? I mean other than Bayern Munich, PSG and maybe Real Madrid/Barcelona the PL has easily some of the best teams in the world right now like Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool, all of which are certainly better than Real Madrid/Barcelona, so unless you only classify “one of the best teams in the world” as the top 4, then I seriously don’t get how you think that!? I mean they’re second in the league and literally won the champions league just over a year ago, and have (unfortunately) the best defender in the world right now, as well as one of the best, and probably most inform winger/forward in the world right now, Salah, as well as many other World class players.
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How many points do you expect from Ralph over December for him to stay
at 17:19 27 Nov 2021

How many points do you expect from Ralph over December for him to stay


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Ralph does read media comments after all.
at 17:08 27 Nov 2021

Why’s that though? Every team (that wasn’t expected to win/get anything against Liverpool) has gone there and done what they usually do, and have also lost like 4-0, 3-1, 4-1 etc all of which loosing, yet Ralph today tried to be a bit unpredictable and new so that we might have a chance. As I’m almost certain that if we had of just played our regular tactics and such, the score would’ve been basically the same
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Ralph does read media comments after all.
at 17:03 27 Nov 2021

Yeah yet people will still criticise him for trying something new just because we lost exactly how we expected to.
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 17:01 27 Nov 2021

Oh but sadoldgit we should be easily beating or holding one of the best teams in the world to a draw or even beating them with our championship attack, according to certain people on here, hence why he should be sacked. Or is it just a bit childish and unrealistic to expect that?
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 16:59 27 Nov 2021

Sorry but what’s soo controversial about it then? It’s just called being realistic and if you really wanna support a team that’s gonna have a decent chance at beating the likes of Liverpool at home every season, then go off and be one of those typical Man City/United or Chelsea glory hunter lot. As we’re saints, we’re not a team that is known for beating world class teams week in week out, and will get the odd win occasionally but a majority of the time will loose exactly how we did today. And you certainly don’t sack a manger for loosing to one of the worlds best teams at the sort of score that most realistic people expect.
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 16:55 27 Nov 2021

But I thought that last week all you Ralph out lot, we’re complaining that we shouldn’t play KWP on his wrong side? So how’s he meant to play when according to you he can’t play on one side, and the other we’ve got a better fullback for? And sorry but what’s McCarthy done that’s that bad today? None of the goals are blatantly his fault and no keepers were gonna save any of them (especially not Forster) so why’s he to blame
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Liverpool Game Matchday Thread
at 16:51 27 Nov 2021

So Ralph does a tactical switch to give us a chance. He doesn’t play Walcott and let’s Tella have 45 minutes and we play well, pundits on tv are saying we have given them a game. Yet all the buffoons (who’d have also complained if he’s played like 10 at the back) on here can do is glory in the fact that we aren’t beating one of the best teams in the world (that beats a Man U team with RONALDO in it 5-0 away (which is certainly worse than this)). At the end of the day, this was always going to be a 3/4-0 game as our defence sure is decent this season, yet our attack is dreadful and without any threat with us also missing all our golden opportunities (which Ralph creates with his traits yet the players miss with their lack of quality) hence why as soon as we concede more than 1, it’s basically game over, and we were always gonna concede multiple goals against Liverpool today.

It’s the Leicester game where we can expect something and a 3/4-0 is no where near good enough, as you don’t sack a manager for loosing to a great team by their average score they win by.
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McCarthy is costing us points
at 21:51 23 Nov 2021

Yeah Forster was in goal when we finished there, but if you also watched saints back then, he had Fonte, Van Dijk and an inform Cedric and Bertrand in front if him, as well as a great midfield and attack, hence why he had barely anything to do. Which is the exact reason why once that defence fell apart, and he actually had to start consistently making saves, he did rubbish and got dropped and then sent out on loan to Celtic. And sorry but he’s played two games, and only had to do much in one game (Chelsea) which was a fixture that McCarthy also did well in only a few weeks earlier. Sheesh I mean most of the top goalies out there are quite overrated as they just get these amazing defenders in front of them, which means that they don’t have to often produce many decent saves, yet still get rated really highly because of the clean sheets there defenders produce.

And no it’s Forster we need to get rid of rather than McCarthy, as he’s the one asking for ridiculously high wages (hence why he’s not been sold, as no one gonna pay his wages for the lack of quality he produces) whilst McCarthy ain’t much better but actually asks for a reasonable wage. And yeah there are keepers out there that we could get, like the West Brom/England one who wants to leave and supposedly us and west Han are interested in buying, or even getting the likes of Henderson from Man U on loan.
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McCarthy is costing us points
at 14:16 22 Nov 2021

Yeah and if you remember we had one of the best defences in the league at that point with Fonte, Van Dijk, an inform Bertrand and Cedric as well as a great attack which took a lot of pressure off of the defence, hence why Forster had very little to do for a majority of games that he played in. But if you remember what happened after that back 4 fell apart, he did have to start saving shots and that’s where he crumbled and we all saw/realised that he just wasn’t any good and was dropped hence why we loaned him to the likes of Celtic and such. As we sure do need a new goalie and the West Brom/England one is getting brought up a lot around us and would be a perfect fit, but the earliest he’s gonna come is January and until then I’d rather keep with the better keeper who is McCarthy (and he may be better but he’s just not consistently good enough to be PL quality) as well as the fact that Forster wants these ridiculous wages which he certainly doesn’t deserve hence why he wants to go but no ones come looking for him as he’s also not PL quality but asks for PL wages whilst McCathy is just a bit better, but doesn’t do for ridiculous wages.
But like I said before the best scenario is where we get a new keeper in January as I don’t care who everyone thinks is better out of Forster or McCarthy, because nether is PL quality
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McCarthy is costing us points
at 20:43 21 Nov 2021

Yeah, but I’m certain that Forster would’ve cost us points previously and in the future where McCarthy didn’t, as they’re both just rubbish hence why we need a new keeper!
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Must be a coincidence.
at 20:41 21 Nov 2021

You do realise that Prowse was playing against Villa and Watford right? 🙄 So it’s just a draw against Burnley, a win against Leeds and a loss to Chelsea that he was absent for. He also was playing when we got points against West Ham, Man United and Man City, as well as Newcastle, so yeah it is just a coincidence
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