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Reply | Second BREXIT Referendum
at 18:59 22 Dec 2024
Points well made by you cat as well.
Labour are starting the process of building those better relationships and that may well lead to them looking to go a huge stage further, ie the second ref. If they think it's a vote winner we all know how it will go.
The last part about politicians working in our best interests ! A concept i'm not familiar with. Sorry. |
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Reply | Second BREXIT Referendum
at 18:09 22 Dec 2024
See my response to JON cat re younger people becoming older and wiser.
You're right to say the process, if it happened, would take years. But leaving after the ref took getting on for five years if you include the transition year of 2020,
And the problems that the EU is currently having could turn to the UK's benefit if we were to vote to rejoin. Many people have said over the last eight years that we'd end up with a terrible deal if we were to rejoin as the EU would look to punish the UK. It could be argued that the EU would see the UK rejoining as giving the EU a huge boost, bearing in mind the problems you rightly say they are having, making them a lot more amenable in offering us a good deal. |
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Reply | Second BREXIT Referendum
at 17:59 22 Dec 2024
You're suggesting that as the group that mostly voted remain (the young) will be two decades older by the time of another ref (if one happens) that they'll naturally transform into Brexiteers as they'll be older and wiser. And they would replace the older leave voters who would have fallen from the perch in that time. In other words maintaining the balance with older people being leavers and younger being remainers.
The trouble with that logic is now that we're getting on for one decade post the ref you'd imagine that the polls would show little change from the 48/52 split we had in 2016. But all the polls for the last three years or more have shown a widening gap with the latest i've seen showing a 55/31 result saying leave was a mistake.
I really can see it happening JON. |
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Reply | Swansea City to a man : A total unprofessional embarrassment
at 17:26 21 Dec 2024
If the new owners are thinking of spending a decent amount of money whether that be in Jan or the summer they have to make a decision soon as to whether they believe Luke is the right manager.
If they don't now is the right time to make the decision so a new man can use the rest of the season to work with the players and know what he needs in the summer.
And yes, today was terrible. |
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Reply | Second BREXIT Referendum
at 17:15 21 Dec 2024
'normal rational thinking human beings'.
Of course. Which is why they'll vote to rejoin JON  |
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Thread | Second BREXIT Referendum
at 16:30 21 Dec 2024
Time to put your thinking cap on again ohl  .
In my 'Thank You Nigel Farage' thread I suggested that Reform are going to have a huge bearing on the result of the next General Election. This thread is about the thought that things could go the completely opposite way.
One thing we know for certain (there's not many times you can say that in politics) is that Reform, aka Nigel Farage, are not going to stand on a platform of holding a second Brexit referendum at the next GE. Kemi Badenoch is a brexiteer so that rules out the Torys, at least while she's the leader.
So what if Labour does ? When a second ref has been talked about before now the general consensus has been that it's too early, that Brexit has to be given time to see how it works. If Labour do offer a second ref at the next GE and they win again the referendum probably wouldn't happen till at least 2032. So that would mean sixteen years after the first one. No one could argue that that is not enough time to see if Brexit was working or not.
And what would be the result. As far as i'm aware every single poll that has been taken over the last few years on how people would vote in another ref has shown a substantial majority for rejoining (in May it was 55% wrong to leave with 31% saying it was right to leave). And that majority will only get bigger. In the first ref it was mostly older people who voted to leave while younger people voted to remain. And there's only one way that different demography is going to change.
Over the next few years we may get caught up in a Trade war if Trump does follow up on his ideas about tarrifs. So little old UK would be stuck between the USA and the EU in that battle. And Labour will be in the perfect position to use that as an argument to rejoin especially as they'll have been working with the EU for a few years at that time trying to improve the current Brexit deal.
Another side benefit to Labour, who are a very pro Union party, is that a rejoin vote may also see off Scotlands fight for Indy. Just a thought. |
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Thread | Thank you Nigel Farage
at 10:22 20 Dec 2024
Now that's a thread title I never thought i'd create.
I said to my wife a number of times over the last five years or so that soon there's going to be a revolution in this country. And not one with bullets, barricades and beheadings. And Reform could very well be that revolution.
Millions of people are finally saying i'm not taking this any more. Whatever colour of government is elected 98% of us are essentially shat on. No matter how much money there is there's never enough to pay a huge number of people enough to live a decent life because 'the country can't afford it' while at the same time the 1 or 2% at the top have money thrown at them because they are the people at the top.
I'm not a Reform voter but i'm sure many millions more will become Reform voters over the next 4 years up till the next election. And for no other reason, I believe, than they are not Labour or Conservatives. They've got no policies that i'm aware of other than cutting immigration and what they are saying about that seems to be ridiculous. But people don't seem to care. They've just had enough.
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Reply | Season Tickets 25/26
at 17:46 19 Dec 2024
Bought mine today.
I've had an ST since 1978 but last year was the first time I actually considered not renewing. I'm so glad Kaplan and Levein are gone. Now we can actually look forward again.
I don't expect the new owners to spend a fortune but I do expect that they will do things that improve the Club and make us more competitive. If that wasn't the plan then there'd be no reason for them to buy.
Mr Positive. |
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Reply | Possession Based football.
at 12:08 14 Dec 2024
Whatever football you want the team to play it is all about winning at the end of the day.
If the Swans did play a quick, getting the ball forward to wingers who would take on the full back and cross the ball, if that didn't end up with us scoring more than the opposition people would soon complain.
I think LW is getting the balance right. There is a bit, maybe too much, faffing about with short goal kicks. But generally the ball is being moved quicker especially recently since Liam has been playing deeper. As soon as he receives the ball his head is up and he plays it quickly. The difference that quick ball, when played accurately, makes is incredible. |
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Reply | Cardiff attendance
at 10:05 12 Dec 2024
The stand behind the person taking the photo would have to be full for the crowd to be even 7000.
That turnout is utterly embarrassing. |
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Thread | New rule in football ?
at 11:05 7 Dec 2024
'Referees will award a corner to the opposition if a goalkeeper holds on to the ball for too long, under a new system being considered by football’s lawmakers.'
Just saw this. Hopefully something is done. I can't stand watching their time wasting while the ref does nothing. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Portsmouth : Match day thread MATCH DAY
at 09:50 1 Dec 2024
Cullen is looking so much better currently. We all know he can't do the CF job (to be fair we never expected him to,he was just filling in as the best option at the time) but as a 10 his head is up looking for the next pass immediately. |
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Reply | Lets talk about Tymon
at 09:41 1 Dec 2024
The worst example of this passing back for no reason yesterday was Ben. Around the 80th minute the ball was passed to him on the right. There was no one near him, there was 30 yards of open pitch for him to move forward but instead he turned and passed it back.
That's not to say he had a bad game, it's just the most blatant, single example of not needing to pass back I can think of. Tymon was always closed down very quickly probably because they know he can deliver excellent crosses so at least it's understandable then for him doing it. |
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Reply | Electric vehicles
at 14:40 29 Nov 2024
'He receives a substantial remuneration to persuade individuals like you that electric vehicles represent the future and are the ultimate solution for a sustainable world.'
A strange response mangohilljack. I can only think that you didn't understand what I intended with the post.
As I said, I know very little about the ins and outs of electric cars and whether they are good or bad. But in order to understand I listen to and read what others say and come to a conclusion based on that and my own findings.
The point of my post was to let others know what Greg Jackson said in order for them to do the same. I'm not taking what he says as fact but am willing to consider it. |
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