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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 15:39 25 Apr 2024
Do you actually read my responses or just get irate about a specific part? Firstly you have literally quoted “there is of course the chance”, I have said that I am grasping at straws with if Lumley knew or not, I wasn’t even the one noticing he got upset, just a theory. Secondly as I have said above, this wouldn’t have been a RM decision if it is correct, it would have come from above him - RM doesn’t care about the wage budget.
Grasping at straws is ironic from yourself, you are using a theory you don’t believe (not even using the theory correctly) to go after RM and I think we all remember someone that you used to bash every week with no logic behind it. |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 12:52 25 Apr 2024
Multiple games of McCarthy shows him as 2nd choice was all clearly part of the plan. I did say (which you didn’t read) that an injury at any other time of the week would have just allowed RM to say that Lumley had not trained as well as McCarthy hence it was only the circumstance where he was already on the match lineup that created the catastrophic embarrassment.
There is of course the chance Lumley was already aware of this and his supposed reaction was embarrassment that there would be speculation about him staying the sub keeper/the chance he had not told family about this arrangement.
I think the main point though is that you are using this as a stick to beat RM, if it’s the financial side (which looks more and more likely given the team sheets) then it won’t be RM’s decision. I imagine RM cares about his winning ratio (and having the best bench to achieve this) more than SR having to spend more wages to achieve that but at the end of the day is an employee so has to pick his battles when told to cost save from above. |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 14:39 20 Apr 2024
Yes it does still make sense to not start McCarthy in the cup because most seasons your first choice GK does not miss a league game for a long period, most seasons they might get a red or need to come off with a short term injury mid match. So you would want the guy actually on the bench ready to come on. You say nobody would do this but yet look at the current games starting keeper, once again McCarthy.
Actually it’s good management, what is the chances of a player getting injured in the warm-up? Like near to 0%. That is the only scenario where Lumley needs to find out. If it happens in an actual match then Lumley has to come on, if he plays badly - ready made excuse for switching for the next game, if not then just say McCarthy played better in training. Think about the odds of this happening if this was considered at the beginning of the season to save money, not after it happened. |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 22:04 19 Apr 2024
Sorry I forget you wouldn’t know what a carve out clause is, no my point was that there would be a proviso for the unused substitute fee saying that it doesn’t apply to cup games. Otherwise teams would have to pay first GK’s to sit on the bench when they didn’t have a good enough 3rd keeper, which the player would accept during negotiations as it’s standard for main GK’s to make way in the cup)
It’s been coming up for 2 months since lumley played, not exactly match sharp. As I have said, Lumley probably wasn’t explained this logic until this week (wouldn’t make him very confident sitting on the bench needing to come on if he thought he was the third keeper but actually had to come on mid-game, probably thought they could fluff him with some bull about McCarthy looking more sharp if Bazunu was out for more than half a game). Let’s be honest if this was all discussed, it was probably seen as far more likely that Bazunu would go off mid-match than the actual situation. |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 13:37 19 Apr 2024
Imagine they have a carve out clause for the cups, first team GK’s expect to be benched for the cup (at least earlier rounds) it’s the league where they expect to start but pretty usual to still see them on the bench.
Also I think you are forgetting Bazunu was also brought in as a first team keeper so probably would have the same clause |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 12:10 19 Apr 2024
Not saying he can’t be on the bench, just saying it was probably expensive for him to be on the bench. Say it was an extra 5k (£230k a season) a game for him to sit on the bench so perhaps SR said well that just isn’t worth the risk, that’s a few hundred people buying tickets paid for the risk of Bazunu getting injured mid game or getting sent off. For that game if it did happen then send on Lumley and bring McCarthy in for the next game/games |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 12:03 19 Apr 2024
I don’t know for certain, but it’s a normal contract condition (and you can see why for a GK, to stop them languishing on the bench at the peak of their career as it makes it less of a good financial decision for the club not to sell them, although McCarthy’s drop in value has not helped that with his good base wage). So it just seems logical as McCarthy hasn’t been getting that bench spot and yet jumped over Lumley for the starting spot. Also pretty weird the manager didn’t give a good reason, while this might be the sort of reason that he wouldn’t want to share with the fan base. |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 13:09 18 Apr 2024
As I have said, it will be McCarthy’s unused substitute fee keeping him off the bench as risk of having him on the bench for a Bazunu injury or red card not deemed worthy of the cost for the sake of one game. |
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Reply | Penny for the thoughts of Joe Lumley
at 13:33 17 Apr 2024
Players have appearance fees in their contracts and fees for being on the team sheet. Ridiculous thing with McCarthy’s good contract even though we are paying him a lot to do nothing someone has probably done the maths of paying him to warm the sub seats costs more than Lumley doing the same. Given later posters comments about Lumley not being impressed perhaps nobody had told him that is why he’s getting the subspot and thought he was there on merit of being the second best keeper until last night! |
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Reply | Swansea suing our Russ!
at 20:32 15 Apr 2024
Breach of contract you sue the person that breached the contract, saints weren’t party to the contract so they couldn’t sue saints. Tapping up regulations aren’t the same as managers and players as managers can give notice. |
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Reply | What a crazy world - ISIS target Russia
at 00:20 23 Mar 2024
Doubt it was based on the vote today, takes a while to come up with an armed gunman plot. Probably has more to do with the bad relations between Russia and ISIS given that Russia has such good relations with Syria and assisted them by carrying out air strikes on ISIS. [Post edited 23 Mar 0:21]
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Reply | On the train from Waterloo with Smallbone
at 18:58 13 Mar 2024
Not sure, he’s not managed to get a seat so having to stand. Would offer him my seat but feel he’s had the day off so I deserve it more |
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Reply | League table for the last 50 years
at 17:36 16 Feb 2024
Probably about then since a manager who has managed in the premier league before has been in their ground! Wonder if a lot of the fans are there to get Ruben Selles’s autograph |
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Reply | League table for the last 50 years
at 17:12 16 Feb 2024
Or in more Pompey terms, when one of them takes a STD test and is finally clear of Chlamydia! Well great for them but I never had it in the first place so I won’t shake their hand (just in case I catch it/have to touch a Pompey fan) |
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Reply | League table for the last 50 years
at 16:51 16 Feb 2024
So you have got to watch your team win the second tier, third tier and fourth tier! Wow quite the set. Almost makes up for having to watch your team steal from charities, god I’m getting quite jealous over here. Wish I hadn’t had to watch us win games in Europe and hundreds of games in the top league in the world so that I could have seen that moment when a Saints player lifted a fourth tier league trophy! |
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Reply | League table for the last 50 years
at 15:12 16 Feb 2024
What league titles have you witnessed Portsmouth win yourself?
My great grandad saw a British empire that spanned 23% of the world, doesn’t really give me much bragging rights though based on where we sit in the world order now. Congrats your ancestors would have seen Pompey doing really well, but you yourself have watched Portsmouth play out of the top division most of your life, I on the other hand have watched Saints play in the top division most of my life! |
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Reply | League table for the last 50 years
at 13:17 16 Feb 2024
Your logic is incredibly flawed, explains why you guys regularly drop to the third and fourth tiers, you seem to think winning those are more impressive than playing in the top tier. Maybe you guys should go yo-yo between National league and national league south and then you could be rivals with Eastleigh? More your sort of level and you could get all those glorious league titles! |
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Reply | League table for the last 50 years
at 11:44 16 Feb 2024
Not very good at keeping on the topic are you. My response was to your comment about the last fifty years and this page is about the last fifty years but you change it to a far larger period.
In the last fifty years Saints have spent:
38 years in the top division
10 years in the second
2 years in the third
In that time you have spent:
8 years in the top division
23 years in the second
13 years in the third
6 years in the fourth.
So yes you have had over double the opportunities to win a division that in order to win you have had to not been good enough to be in the division above before! Not much of an achievement, the season you won the championship we were in the division above so your supposed moment of glory was a title that shows you were worse than us!
Now you might not to get a few of your friends heads together to do this maths (I know they smell but just hold your nose) but you have not spent as many years in the top two divisions as we have in the top division in the last 50 years. Little bit of a hint but 23 plus 8 is less than 38, even giving you a whole extra league to try and even the numbers and you are behind us! |
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