| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton 17:58 - Aug 31 with 5028 views | TheResurrection |
A brief history of a team relegated who gambled the lot on promotion at the first hurdle. It caught up with them big time and they only truly got back on their feet when they totally hit the reset button and started all over again. It took several new owners, 4 or 5 managers, going into administration, a relegation and a ten point deduction.
This after a 13 year stint in the EPL where, let's face it, they were part of the fixture's and fittings.
Regardless of who's calling the shots what we're doing now is sensible and the right thing for the future of SCFC.
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Outside the top flight (2005—2012)
"""In November 2005, manager Harry Redknapp resigned to rejoin Portsmouth, and was replaced by George Burley. Rupert Lowe resigned as chairman in June 2006, and Jersey-based businessman Michael Wilde, who had become the club's major shareholder assumed the post. Following a club record £6 million being spent on transfers, Polish strikers Grzegorz Rasiak and Marek Saganowski performed well and the season saw the introduction of 17-year-old left back Gareth Bale. Southampton finished in sixth place and lost the play-off semi-final to Derby County on penalties. The board sought new investment in the club, and In February 2007 Wilde stepped down as chairman to be replaced by local businessman Leon Crouch as "Acting chairman", a role Crouch retained until 21 July 2007. In the 2007—08 season,
In the 2007—08 season, George Burley revealed that players such as Bale and Kenwyne Jones had to be sold to stop the club going into administration and that failing to achieve promotion had put the club in serious financial difficulty. Burley left the club in January 2008 to take over as Scotland manager and was replaced by Nigel Pearson who saved the club from relegation on the final day.
In July 2008 all the board members except one resigned, allowing Lowe and Wilde to return: Wilde as Chairman of Southampton FC and Rupert Lowe as Chairman of Southampton Leisure Holdings plc. Although Pearson kept the team up, the board did not renew his contract due to financial constraints, and the relatively unknown Dutchman Jan Poortvliet was appointed manager. Financial troubles continued to mount, resulting in more players being sold or loaned out and parts of St Mary's were closed off to reduce costs. In January 2009, Poortvliet resigned with the club one place from bottom of the Championship, with Mark Wotte taking over managerial duties.
In April 2009, Southampton's parent company was placed in administration. A ten-point penalty was imposed, but as the team was already being relegated due to finishing second from bottom of the Football League Championship this points deduction had to apply to the 2009—10 season. By the end of May, the club was unable to meet its staff wages and asked employees to work unpaid as a gesture of goodwill. The administrator warned that the club faced imminent bankruptcy unless a buyer was found. In June, administrator Mark Fry confirmed negotiations with two groups of investors, followed by confirmation that the club had been sold to an overseas buyer "owned and controlled by Markus Liebherr". Liebherr brought in Italian businessman Nicola Cortese to look after the club's business interests on his behalf. In July 2009, with the club in the control of the new owner, Wotte was sacked as head coach and Alan Pardew was appointed as the new First Team Manager.The Saints made their first big signing under Liebherr, striker Rickie Lambert, who was purchased on 10 August from League One side Bristol Rovers.
Southampton started the 2009—10 season in League One, in the third tier of English football for the first time in 50 years and with −10 points.
In March 2010, Southampton won their first trophy since 1976 when they defeated Carlisle United 4—1 at Wembley to claim the Football League Trophy.[16] Southampton finished the season in 7th place, seven points from the last play-off position.
A new home shirt was unveiled on 10 June 2010, in celebration of the club's 125th anniversary. The design was based on the original St. Mary's Y.M.A. kit used in 1885; it featured the new anniversary crest and was without a sponsor's logo.[17] On 11 August, it was announced that Liebherr had died; however, the club's future had been assured and planned for before his death.[18][19] Pardew was dismissed in August and Nigel Adkins joined from Scunthorpe United as his replacement.[20] The club was promoted to the Championship in May 2011 as runners-up to Brighton & Hove Albion.
Returning to the Championship for the 2011—12 season, Southampton made their best start to a season for 75 years with a winning run at St. Mary's of 13 league games, setting a new club record and going top of the league. In April 2012, Southampton achieved promotion to the Premier League as runners-up to Reading. The final game of the season game set a record attendance at St Mary's Stadium of 32,363. Lambert finished the season as the Championship's top goalscorer with 27 league goals, his third "Golden Boot" in four seasons. He also won the Championship Player of the Year award.""" |  |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:07 - Aug 31 with 1403 views | AngelRangelQS |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 18:53 - Aug 31 by Chief |
Up front. We have 2 strikers, neither of whom are fit. |
Well McBurnie is fit again and Bony isn’t far off. We have Baker Richardson as back up.
When have we ever had more than 2 genuine striking contenders? |  | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:08 - Aug 31 with 1404 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 18:40 - Aug 31 by TheResurrection |
We brought in Carter Vickers |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:08 - Aug 31 with 1387 views | Dippy |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:01 - Aug 31 by Uxbridge |
And CB. Plus, if Fer is injured, we're in trouble.
In terms of numbers, it isn't that bad, but it's some key positions we could really have done with strengthening.
On the flip side, it's exciting to see the kids coming through. They've surpassed expectations to date. I'm enjoying that as much as anything. |
It's not just a key position.. Defensive Midfield is the most important part of a football team.
Fer & Fulton are the closest we have.. It doesn't look like the board want to go up.. Happy with the parachute windfall. |  |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:13 - Aug 31 with 1378 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I think you will find that Southampton had owners who did not know what they are doing. |  |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:15 - Aug 31 with 1376 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 18:40 - Aug 31 by TheResurrection |
We brought in Carter Vickers |
Snigger | |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:16 - Aug 31 with 1366 views | Oldjack |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:13 - Aug 31 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I think you will find that Southampton had owners who did not know what they are doing. |
just like ours then |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:19 - Aug 31 with 1346 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:16 - Aug 31 by Oldjack |
just like ours then |
That's my point, we seem to have a similar situation. | |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 20:25 - Aug 31 with 1293 views | Dr_Winston |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 18:51 - Aug 31 by AngelRangelQS |
If Bony stays, where do you think we are short?
I think we can all agree on a physical central midfielder but other than that? |
Midfield was the key. It cost us our PL status last season and too many games with a Fulton/Carroll combination will cost us the chance to bounce straight back.
Not adding more physicality there at least is a f*ckup regardless of finances. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 20:29 - Aug 31 with 1274 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 20:25 - Aug 31 by Dr_Winston |
Midfield was the key. It cost us our PL status last season and too many games with a Fulton/Carroll combination will cost us the chance to bounce straight back.
Not adding more physicality there at least is a f*ckup regardless of finances. |
Yes, it also got us to the PL in the first place. The failure to balance the squad speaks volumes. | |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 20:31 - Aug 31 with 1272 views | AngelRangelQS |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 20:25 - Aug 31 by Dr_Winston |
Midfield was the key. It cost us our PL status last season and too many games with a Fulton/Carroll combination will cost us the chance to bounce straight back.
Not adding more physicality there at least is a f*ckup regardless of finances. |
Agreed. We are short in that position but the gaps aren’t throughout the squad as people suggest.
Another thing is that a lot of these youngsters have played more senior games than a lot may realise | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 20:48 - Aug 31 with 1259 views | Croftyjack |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 18:13 - Aug 31 by AngelRangelQS |
I’m not saying that we haven’t been badly run over the last few years but surely all that money is a bit of an illusion... the more money we had coming in the more we had greedy players, agents and board members grabbing at it.
We’ve also got fairwood and the academy. |
It's no illusion the money is real..just vastly mismanaged on a massive scale...do not blend the players it's not their fault....this is the reason you can't get complacent with a squad and need to move on deadwood every season...we just were shit at it. | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:13 - Aug 31 with 1221 views | valleyboy |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 19:01 - Aug 31 by Uxbridge |
And CB. Plus, if Fer is injured, we're in trouble.
In terms of numbers, it isn't that bad, but it's some key positions we could really have done with strengthening.
On the flip side, it's exciting to see the kids coming through. They've surpassed expectations to date. I'm enjoying that as much as anything. |
But these kids have got to do it week in, week out, not just for the occasional game
That’s the big difference
The Championship is not a league in where you learn your trade | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:32 - Aug 31 with 1189 views | Jango |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:13 - Aug 31 by valleyboy |
But these kids have got to do it week in, week out, not just for the occasional game
That’s the big difference
The Championship is not a league in where you learn your trade |
They are not kids. | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:34 - Aug 31 with 1185 views | Fireboy2 |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:32 - Aug 31 by Jango |
They are not kids. |
They are in footballing terms
They are used to playing against boys
Not men |  | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:35 - Aug 31 with 1182 views | mahoss |
Here we go again........
It will come down to results as ever,makes no difference what people think,if we do ok next 10 games we,ll be fine,but if we don't,well I don't want to think about it quite honestly..........
Everybody is watching like Hawks.
Good luck Swans ! | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:36 - Aug 31 with 1179 views | Cooperman |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:32 - Aug 31 by Jango |
They are not kids. |
Not kids in the true sense of the word. However they are all short on experience and some are not yet physically developed in full. |  |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:44 - Aug 31 with 1149 views | Jango |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:36 - Aug 31 by Cooperman |
Not kids in the true sense of the word. However they are all short on experience and some are not yet physically developed in full. |
Ye but come on, out of our best 11 and likely subs when all fit how many are these kids you talk about? | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 22:06 - Aug 31 with 1119 views | RevJames |
It's just a shame that over the last few years, 'we' weren't sensible and doing the right thing for the future of SCFC .... | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 10:17 - Sep 1 with 1003 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 18:28 - Aug 31 by Chief |
Would one extra permanent signing and 1 or 2 more extra strategic loans be that much of a gamble? |
The "logic" from some is a loan player could ruin the club's prospects of surviving financially. Or is that just utter b*llocks and misinformation for purposes only they are privy to? |  |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 10:21 - Sep 1 with 996 views | Uxbridge |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:13 - Aug 31 by valleyboy |
But these kids have got to do it week in, week out, not just for the occasional game
That’s the big difference
The Championship is not a league in where you learn your trade |
Of course it is. It's exactly that. You make it sound like a 1960s works league. We got promoted by playing football. Fulham just did. Plenty of cloggers like that shower that also got promoted too but no reason why talent can't prevail. |  |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 10:54 - Sep 1 with 955 views | Captain_Sham |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 21:13 - Aug 31 by valleyboy |
But these kids have got to do it week in, week out, not just for the occasional game
That’s the big difference
The Championship is not a league in where you learn your trade |
The why did we send McBurnie there numerous times, and why did he flourish there? |  |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 14:18 - Sep 1 with 874 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 22:06 - Aug 31 by RevJames |
It's just a shame that over the last few years, 'we' weren't sensible and doing the right thing for the future of SCFC .... |
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| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southamp on 15:28 - Sep 1 with 840 views | valleyboy |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southampton on 10:21 - Sep 1 by Uxbridge |
Of course it is. It's exactly that. You make it sound like a 1960s works league. We got promoted by playing football. Fulham just did. Plenty of cloggers like that shower that also got promoted too but no reason why talent can't prevail. |
The big difference is that Swansea hadn’t just been relegated and that the manager these days is trying to rebuild on scraps left over from other clubs | | | |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southamp on 16:04 - Sep 1 with 794 views | TheResurrection |
| A lesson not to gamble in going straight back to the EPL from Southamp on 15:28 - Sep 1 by valleyboy |
The big difference is that Swansea hadn’t just been relegated and that the manager these days is trying to rebuild on scraps left over from other clubs |
Scraps left over? You're out of touch. The last time we were in this league you were spouting the same old crap about this division... "if you think this league is easy you're in for a shock" ; "you won't get promoted" blah blah blah | |
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