| Ashes thread 17:11 - Jul 15 with 103853 views | johnhoop |
Now that the World Cup’s done and dusted we can turn our attention to the next major event.
For me the most interesting questions about team selection are;
1) Do we open with Jason Roy? For me it’s a no brainer. I know all the arguments against- he doesn’t even open for Surrey, he struggles against the moving ball etc- but I feel that he’s in such good form and the alternatives are so mediocre that it would be silly not to. If he does come off he could give us control of the game in the first couple of hours. Him and Rory Burns for me.
2) Now that Jofra Archer has to have a place in the side, who are the other two quick bowlers going to be. If fit I guess Anderson has to play and I would give the third spot to Woakes but this means no place for Stuart Broad and the 90 mph+ Mark Wood.
3) Which spinner to go with - Ali or Rashid? Ali’s batting form seems to have dipped but it’s still not an easy decision to make.
Any thoughts? |  | | |  |
| Ashes thread on 23:48 - Aug 22 with 1658 views | Hooparoo |
Congratulations Poms. I think you just won the Ashes after that little collapse in the last session. |  |
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| Ashes thread on 00:52 - Aug 23 with 1631 views | timcocking |
The problem for England is always starting hampered by our own selectors. To have started a blatantly injured Jimmy Anderson instead of Jofra Archer in the first test...incompetence just doesn't do it justice, fcuking criminal. And yet, par for the course, our selectors have and will always get it wrong if they can.
Jofra you bloody beauty.
Ps No, i most certainly never said it's a shame he isn't playing for the West Indies, ahem. Definitely never said that. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 01:58 - Aug 23 with 1621 views | bob566 |
Irish fan here. That was some bowling. Broad and archa immense. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 07:28 - Aug 23 with 1551 views | distortR |
| Ashes thread on 00:52 - Aug 23 by timcocking |
The problem for England is always starting hampered by our own selectors. To have started a blatantly injured Jimmy Anderson instead of Jofra Archer in the first test...incompetence just doesn't do it justice, fcuking criminal. And yet, par for the course, our selectors have and will always get it wrong if they can.
Jofra you bloody beauty.
Ps No, i most certainly never said it's a shame he isn't playing for the West Indies, ahem. Definitely never said that. |
or, if picked, it could have been the not quite fit Archer who broke down after 4 overs | | | |
| Ashes thread on 09:01 - Aug 23 with 1524 views | thame_hoops |
| Ashes thread on 23:48 - Aug 22 by Hooparoo |
Congratulations Poms. I think you just won the Ashes after that little collapse in the last session. |
I still think a drawn series will be the outcome.
Hate the term ‘Pom’ it’s always said in a nasty way |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 09:37 - Aug 23 with 1504 views | Hooparoo |
| Ashes thread on 09:01 - Aug 23 by thame_hoops |
I still think a drawn series will be the outcome.
Hate the term ‘Pom’ it’s always said in a nasty way |
You’ll be happy to know it’s not nasty. Convicts arriving in Oz from England had POHM (Prisoner of His Majesty) written on their backs hence - Poms.
Most Aussies have some Pom to thank for their existence so I assure you it’s not nasty.
As for Aussies dumb enough to follow the Rs well, there’s not many of us down under. 😬 | |
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| Ashes thread on 09:52 - Aug 23 with 1491 views | ElHoop |
| Ashes thread on 00:52 - Aug 23 by timcocking |
The problem for England is always starting hampered by our own selectors. To have started a blatantly injured Jimmy Anderson instead of Jofra Archer in the first test...incompetence just doesn't do it justice, fcuking criminal. And yet, par for the course, our selectors have and will always get it wrong if they can.
Jofra you bloody beauty.
Ps No, i most certainly never said it's a shame he isn't playing for the West Indies, ahem. Definitely never said that. |
Archer wasn't fit for the first test. A lot of our bowlers were carrying injuries after the World Cup. Archer had a side injury which needed rest, so they sent him home to Barbados for a week and then he proved his fitness in a second XI game. Had he played in the first test he'd more than likely have broken down. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 10:07 - Aug 23 with 1476 views | johnhoop |
| Ashes thread on 23:48 - Aug 22 by Hooparoo |
Congratulations Poms. I think you just won the Ashes after that little collapse in the last session. |
I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Never underestimate this England batting line-up’s potential for staging spectacular collapses of their own. I’m really hoping that the second innings at Lords was an indication that they’ve turned a corner in this regard but I certainly wouldn’t bet on it. If the prodigious amounts of movement off the pitch that Broad and Archer were getting yesterday morning are anything like replicated by the Aussie bowlers ( who are certainly good enough to do it), we’re going to be in for a pretty torrid time. Just hoping the improved weather today makes a difference. | | | |
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| Ashes thread on 11:19 - Aug 23 with 1728 views | Nov77 |
Least surprising news of the day, Roy gone for 9,  |  |
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| Ashes thread on 11:27 - Aug 23 with 1688 views | CamberleyR |
It's not really surprising. He plays hardly at all any red ball first class cricket so he doesn't get exposure to a moving ball. His technique has become accustomed to the white ball which moves nowhere near as much and it seems he can't adjust. Put him front of a moving red ball and he's all at sea. |  |
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| Ashes thread on 11:29 - Aug 23 with 1675 views | runningman75 |
England lacking a world class test batsman. Time to raid the Commonwealth to see if there is one out there. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 11:31 - Aug 23 with 1674 views | johnhoop |
For all that Archer and Broad bowled brilliantly yesterday the predictable disintegration yet again of our top order means we needed to get them out for less than 100 to stand any chance. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 11:33 - Aug 23 with 1660 views | ted_hendrix |
Useless fecking knobs. |  |
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| Ashes thread on 11:38 - Aug 23 with 1648 views | Phildo |
England and Australia really working hard to prove the 5 day game is a goner, |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 11:54 - Aug 23 with 1616 views | jonno |
| Ashes thread on 11:31 - Aug 23 by johnhoop |
For all that Archer and Broad bowled brilliantly yesterday the predictable disintegration yet again of our top order means we needed to get them out for less than 100 to stand any chance. |
England bowled very poorly yesterday for a long period. They should have had the Aussies out for less than 100. Now we'll need to bat sensibly today for the whole day. I don't believe we can do that. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 11:55 - Aug 23 with 1612 views | Hooparoo |
You bloody beauty! 20-3. 😜 | |
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| Ashes thread on 12:05 - Aug 23 with 1586 views | Nov77 |
| Ashes thread on 16:56 - Aug 17 by Nov77 |
England’s top order is a shambles. |
Bump, from the lords game, repeat ad nauseam ! | |
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| Ashes thread on 12:10 - Aug 23 with 1571 views | johnhoop |
| Ashes thread on 11:54 - Aug 23 by jonno |
England bowled very poorly yesterday for a long period. They should have had the Aussies out for less than 100. Now we'll need to bat sensibly today for the whole day. I don't believe we can do that. |
The contrast in terms of bowling accuracy is pretty stark. Archer and Broad were lethal but our change bowlers sprayed it around so much that we handed them about seventy runs on a plate. Their three quicks are constantly putting it in what Boycott refers to as the “ corridor of uncertainty “ and the movement off the seam is doing the rest. They’re just giving absolutely nothing away, which is the way it should be in test cricket. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 12:16 - Aug 23 with 1557 views | Nov77 |
This is a masterclass in how to throw away the ashes | |
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| Ashes thread on 12:24 - Aug 23 with 1535 views | johnhoop |
FFS. Stokes had to stretch to the absolute limit to play the waft that guided the ball to slip. After the last match I thought he was our last big hope. Did he think he was playing 20/20 or something? | | | |
| Ashes thread on 12:24 - Aug 23 with 1531 views | CamberleyR |
Root can consider himself unfortunate, he got a good ball, the others have chucked their wickets away. Pathetic. | |
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| Ashes thread on 12:35 - Aug 23 with 1501 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Ashes thread on 12:24 - Aug 23 by johnhoop |
FFS. Stokes had to stretch to the absolute limit to play the waft that guided the ball to slip. After the last match I thought he was our last big hope. Did he think he was playing 20/20 or something? |
Struggling to recall a worse wicket in Test cricket given the situation. Staggering. The penalty area Barbet kamikaze tackle of batting. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 12:48 - Aug 23 with 1476 views | CamberleyR |
I'm struggling to recall a worse England top 6 in my lifetime. | |
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| Ashes thread on 12:48 - Aug 23 with 1474 views | ted_hendrix |
| Ashes thread on 11:54 - Aug 23 by jonno |
England bowled very poorly yesterday for a long period. They should have had the Aussies out for less than 100. Now we'll need to bat sensibly today for the whole day. I don't believe we can do that. |
"Now we'll need to bat sensibly today for the whole day"
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| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
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| Ashes thread on 12:50 - Aug 23 with 1464 views | CamberleyR |
| Ashes thread on 12:48 - Aug 23 by ted_hendrix |
"Now we'll need to bat sensibly today for the whole day"
LOL |
Batting sensibly for a session or even half of one would be a start. | |
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