| Christmas Carnage? 13:11 - Dec 18 with 31029 views | Sadoldgit |
Infection rates are generally rising fast despite the tier systems so you can imagine the spike after the free for all Christmas period. Johnson obviously doesn’t want to be seen as a Grinch but by not closing down Christmas there will be a lot fewer people enjoying it with their loved ones next year.
We are battening down the hatches this Christmas. I just hope that people are sensible and do the same. Sadly though I think people will just go for it and be damned. |  | | |  |
| Christmas Carnage? on 13:58 - Dec 22 with 1495 views | grumpy |
| Christmas Carnage? on 11:47 - Dec 22 by 1885_SFC |
A shame that the frogs didn't show as much grit & defiance during WWII when it came to protecting their own borders... |
The BEF didn't hang around long when the Germans invaded France. |  | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:05 - Dec 22 with 1488 views | Bison |
| Christmas Carnage? on 13:58 - Dec 22 by grumpy |
The BEF didn't hang around long when the Germans invaded France. |
Why are you belittling the British armed forces , you do realise the Germans invaded France and we were trying to help ? |  |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 14:09 - Dec 22 with 1481 views | dwayne_dibley |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:05 - Dec 22 by Bison |
Why are you belittling the British armed forces , you do realise the Germans invaded France and we were trying to help ? |
no good deed goes unpunished |  |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 14:19 - Dec 22 with 1474 views | Sadoldgit |
| Christmas Carnage? on 11:36 - Dec 22 by 1885_SFC |
Cheese-eating surrender monkeys then. Will that do? |
We don’t eat cheese here? Our armies have never surrendered? Go and read up on WW1 and the crap these people went through on their own soil. Read about the French Resistance in WW2. They are human beings just like the rest of us, but well done for smearing a whole nation just because you think that you are superior. | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:51 - Dec 22 with 1455 views | grumpy |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:05 - Dec 22 by Bison |
Why are you belittling the British armed forces , you do realise the Germans invaded France and we were trying to help ? |
I am not belittling the British armed forces, I'm being realistic in response to I quote
'A shame that the frogs didn't show as much grit & defiance during WWII when it came to protecting their own borders'
We had a Island to return to and the Americans to assist us in our defence.
The RAF were magnificent,our Navy was always a huge threat to any German landing and the stoicism of the British people admirable.
But lets not deride the French or any other nation that borders Germany for their defence. The German Army at its peak would have crushed any other, thankfully due to our resistance with the help of the yanks and Hitlers decision to attack Russia the way they did they lost the war.
oh!and the reason 'we were trying to help' as you put it was that the next stop after France was here. [Post edited 22 Dec 2020 14:54]
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| Christmas Carnage? on 14:56 - Dec 22 with 1451 views | Sadoldgit |
And but for a 20 mile strip of water we would be a very different country now. | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 16:45 - Dec 22 with 1411 views | 1885_SFC |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:19 - Dec 22 by Sadoldgit |
We don’t eat cheese here? Our armies have never surrendered? Go and read up on WW1 and the crap these people went through on their own soil. Read about the French Resistance in WW2. They are human beings just like the rest of us, but well done for smearing a whole nation just because you think that you are superior. |
Read up on your history you bore...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Mers-el-K%C3%A9bir |  |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 16:46 - Dec 22 with 1409 views | DorsetIan |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:51 - Dec 22 by grumpy |
I am not belittling the British armed forces, I'm being realistic in response to I quote
'A shame that the frogs didn't show as much grit & defiance during WWII when it came to protecting their own borders'
We had a Island to return to and the Americans to assist us in our defence.
The RAF were magnificent,our Navy was always a huge threat to any German landing and the stoicism of the British people admirable.
But lets not deride the French or any other nation that borders Germany for their defence. The German Army at its peak would have crushed any other, thankfully due to our resistance with the help of the yanks and Hitlers decision to attack Russia the way they did they lost the war.
oh!and the reason 'we were trying to help' as you put it was that the next stop after France was here. [Post edited 22 Dec 2020 14:54]
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For me, the experience of defeat in the second world war helped most European countries grow up. They learnt the hard way where belligerence and tub thumping gets you; that cooperation was a far better bet for their countries than nationalism; and that none of them were as exceptional as they thought they were.
We never learnt that lesson in this country. |  |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 16:47 - Dec 22 with 1408 views | JaySaint |
| Christmas Carnage? on 16:46 - Dec 22 by DorsetIan |
For me, the experience of defeat in the second world war helped most European countries grow up. They learnt the hard way where belligerence and tub thumping gets you; that cooperation was a far better bet for their countries than nationalism; and that none of them were as exceptional as they thought they were.
We never learnt that lesson in this country. |
Unsure how we have not learnt this kind of stuff?
We are easily one of the greatest, most tolerant and desirable nations on earth.
why should we not be proud of that, whilst doff our hats to our history, and acknowledging the bad parts? [Post edited 22 Dec 2020 16:50]
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| Christmas Carnage? on 16:48 - Dec 22 with 1408 views | 1885_SFC |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:56 - Dec 22 by Sadoldgit |
And but for a 20 mile strip of water we would be a very different country now. |
More boring trolling. I expect nothing else from the forum's walking dead. | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 17:00 - Dec 22 with 1391 views | Bicester_North |
| Christmas Carnage? on 16:46 - Dec 22 by DorsetIan |
For me, the experience of defeat in the second world war helped most European countries grow up. They learnt the hard way where belligerence and tub thumping gets you; that cooperation was a far better bet for their countries than nationalism; and that none of them were as exceptional as they thought they were.
We never learnt that lesson in this country. |
The self important pontificating and generalising here is world class | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 17:06 - Dec 22 with 1383 views | DorsetIan |
| Christmas Carnage? on 17:00 - Dec 22 by Bicester_North |
The self important pontificating and generalising here is world class |
Oh dear. Some cages rattled. | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 17:41 - Dec 22 with 1351 views | Bicester_North |
| Christmas Carnage? on 17:06 - Dec 22 by DorsetIan |
Oh dear. Some cages rattled. |
Don’t get so angry Ian | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 18:09 - Dec 22 with 1326 views | 1885_SFC |
| Christmas Carnage? on 14:05 - Dec 22 by Bison |
Why are you belittling the British armed forces , you do realise the Germans invaded France and we were trying to help ? |
Because grumps, like Ian and SOG, are ashamed of our past history. You shouldn't ever be allowed to mention it for fear of upsetting our European friends & neighbours. Perish the thought.
Fancy having a dig at the BEF. Dear oh dear... | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 18:15 - Dec 22 with 1319 views | DorsetIan |
| Christmas Carnage? on 18:09 - Dec 22 by 1885_SFC |
Because grumps, like Ian and SOG, are ashamed of our past history. You shouldn't ever be allowed to mention it for fear of upsetting our European friends & neighbours. Perish the thought.
Fancy having a dig at the BEF. Dear oh dear... |
You misunderstand 1885. Nobody is ashamed of our history. Just of the people who twist it to belittle other countries and peoples. There's absolutely no need for it.
And nobody is 'having a dig' at the BEF either. It's you who seems intent on judging those fighters who were on the wrong end of the German advance in 1940. | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 18:20 - Dec 22 with 1315 views | Bazza |
Actually France help was limited in world war2. We had to sabotage their fleet because they refused to despite fears the Nazis might take it over. They also refused Churchill’s proposal for some sort of coalition. The brave resistance folks were initiated by Churchill and of course enhanced by brits.
I’m shocked by some left learning people on virtually showing anti- British sentiment. Despite being a brexiteer I have no particular dislike of any EU country though I’ve found the french the more tricky to get along with, Germans and Scandis the easiest | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 18:20 - Dec 22 with 1314 views | Sadoldgit |
| Christmas Carnage? on 16:48 - Dec 22 by 1885_SFC |
More boring trolling. I expect nothing else from the forum's walking dead. |
Give it a rest mate. Do you really think we stood a chance against the Germans if it hadn’t been for the channel? That is not slagging off our own country, it is realism. You on the other hand are just a boorish racist. | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 18:34 - Dec 22 with 1301 views | 1885_SFC |
| Christmas Carnage? on 18:20 - Dec 22 by Sadoldgit |
Give it a rest mate. Do you really think we stood a chance against the Germans if it hadn’t been for the channel? That is not slagging off our own country, it is realism. You on the other hand are just a boorish racist. |
lol. Rascist because I'm not over keen on the French? You're a rather strange old man. | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 18:38 - Dec 22 with 1297 views | grumpy |
| Christmas Carnage? on 18:20 - Dec 22 by Bazza |
Actually France help was limited in world war2. We had to sabotage their fleet because they refused to despite fears the Nazis might take it over. They also refused Churchill’s proposal for some sort of coalition. The brave resistance folks were initiated by Churchill and of course enhanced by brits.
I’m shocked by some left learning people on virtually showing anti- British sentiment. Despite being a brexiteer I have no particular dislike of any EU country though I’ve found the french the more tricky to get along with, Germans and Scandis the easiest |
The French Resistance played a vital part on D Day with vital intelligence work and the disruption to German supply and communication lines within France which saved many Allied lives.
Why do some think that wanting to be part of an European Union is in some way anti British, its not and couldn't be further from the truth.
Are the other 20 odd European countries not being patriotic by wanting to be part of a union? | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 19:06 - Dec 22 with 1278 views | Bazza |
| Christmas Carnage? on 18:38 - Dec 22 by grumpy |
The French Resistance played a vital part on D Day with vital intelligence work and the disruption to German supply and communication lines within France which saved many Allied lives.
Why do some think that wanting to be part of an European Union is in some way anti British, its not and couldn't be further from the truth.
Are the other 20 odd European countries not being patriotic by wanting to be part of a union? |
The anti British comment I referred to was principally Ian’s comment that the Uk failed to grow up | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 19:22 - Dec 22 with 1261 views | kernow |
The next 5 to 10 years will reveal a great deal about Britain's status in the World. | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 19:53 - Dec 22 with 1242 views | JaySaint |
| Christmas Carnage? on 18:38 - Dec 22 by grumpy |
The French Resistance played a vital part on D Day with vital intelligence work and the disruption to German supply and communication lines within France which saved many Allied lives.
Why do some think that wanting to be part of an European Union is in some way anti British, its not and couldn't be further from the truth.
Are the other 20 odd European countries not being patriotic by wanting to be part of a union? |
why do some think not being part of a political union is anti-european? | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 20:10 - Dec 22 with 1221 views | DorsetIan |
| Christmas Carnage? on 19:06 - Dec 22 by Bazza |
The anti British comment I referred to was principally Ian’s comment that the Uk failed to grow up |
It's a fact that we didn't suffer the same sort of catastrophic defeats that the other nations suffered. It taught them humility.
Give me humility over nationalistic hubris, any day. | |
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| Christmas Carnage? on 20:13 - Dec 22 with 1218 views | Bazza |
| Christmas Carnage? on 20:10 - Dec 22 by DorsetIan |
It's a fact that we didn't suffer the same sort of catastrophic defeats that the other nations suffered. It taught them humility.
Give me humility over nationalistic hubris, any day. |
Fair enough but I’ve never found the French leaders guilty of humility! | | | |
| Christmas Carnage? on 20:23 - Dec 22 with 1204 views | 1885_SFC |
| Christmas Carnage? on 20:13 - Dec 22 by Bazza |
Fair enough but I’ve never found the French leaders guilty of humility! |
Ironically, it was de Gaulle who vetoed Britain’s application to join the EEC in the 1960's. He thought we were an insular, island race who were never 'true' Europeans. | |
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