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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers 13:22 - Mar 16 with 2663 viewsSaintNick

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 18:45 - Mar 17 with 914 viewsSadoldgit

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 15:55 - Mar 17 by barry_sanchez

Carlton Palmer and Warren Barton played for England, I think he may be correct in his assessment, international football is shite, it shouldn't be but it is due to modern football.


Carlton Palmer and Warren Barton wouldn’t get in the England side now when they would 30 years ago so you seem to have contradicted yourself Barry?
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 18:50 - Mar 17 with 915 viewskernow

Che Adams thinks so.
I reckon there are many young players around the World who would look deupon international representation as an honour and a privilege which was my original point.

I agree with much you say. It has become devalued.
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:30 - Mar 17 with 902 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 18:45 - Mar 17 by Sadoldgit

Carlton Palmer and Warren Barton wouldn’t get in the England side now when they would 30 years ago so you seem to have contradicted yourself Barry?


That is in the value of a cap SOG, hence the furore at such shite playing for England. Yes they probably would get a game as they're wooden horses, we don't pick footballers we pick athletes, Le Tissier?

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:35 - Mar 17 with 897 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 18:50 - Mar 17 by kernow

Che Adams thinks so.
I reckon there are many young players around the World who would look deupon international representation as an honour and a privilege which was my original point.

I agree with much you say. It has become devalued.


Grandparent rule is pure blag, its opportunism and disingenuous to say he is a Scot when he was born in England played for England plays in an English team and an opportunity comes up to play in a major Championship and chooses another nation as it puts him in a shop window to go to another larger English football team to play for.

Classy, but to be fair not alone.

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:37 - Mar 17 with 890 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 18:50 - Mar 17 by kernow

Che Adams thinks so.
I reckon there are many young players around the World who would look deupon international representation as an honour and a privilege which was my original point.

I agree with much you say. It has become devalued.


What like Foden and Greenwood breaking covid protocols on international duty for a shag?

Yes it means that much...............

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:43 - Mar 17 with 876 viewsSadoldgit

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:35 - Mar 17 by barry_sanchez

Grandparent rule is pure blag, its opportunism and disingenuous to say he is a Scot when he was born in England played for England plays in an English team and an opportunity comes up to play in a major Championship and chooses another nation as it puts him in a shop window to go to another larger English football team to play for.

Classy, but to be fair not alone.


Completely agree with you about the grandparents rule. It is a nonsense.
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:52 - Mar 17 with 874 viewskernow

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:43 - Mar 17 by Sadoldgit

Completely agree with you about the grandparents rule. It is a nonsense.


If I had been given the opportunity to play for the country of my grandfather's birth I would have jumped at it.

I reject any accusations of being disingenuous.
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:55 - Mar 17 with 873 viewskernow

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:37 - Mar 17 by barry_sanchez

What like Foden and Greenwood breaking covid protocols on international duty for a shag?

Yes it means that much...............


Those two young men made foolish choices. Does that mean everyone thinks like them?
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:47 - Mar 18 with 827 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:55 - Mar 17 by kernow

Those two young men made foolish choices. Does that mean everyone thinks like them?


Of course it doesn't, it merely proves my point of what young players think of international duty during a World pandemic.

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:48 - Mar 18 with 823 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 19:52 - Mar 17 by kernow

If I had been given the opportunity to play for the country of my grandfather's birth I would have jumped at it.

I reject any accusations of being disingenuous.
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Why?


Is he English or Scottish now?

What nation does he support?

Seems hollow and opportunistic.

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:54 - Mar 18 with 813 viewskernow

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:48 - Mar 18 by barry_sanchez

Why?


Is he English or Scottish now?

What nation does he support?

Seems hollow and opportunistic.


Because I would be proud to honour my grandfather.
Because I would want to play international football.
Because I wouldn't concern myself with what others thought.

I can't answer questions two and three. Best ask him I suggest.

That's your opinion, see point 3 above.
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:57 - Mar 18 with 811 viewskernow

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:47 - Mar 18 by barry_sanchez

Of course it doesn't, it merely proves my point of what young players think of international duty during a World pandemic.


You've contradicted yourself there sir.
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:06 - Mar 18 with 803 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:57 - Mar 18 by kernow

You've contradicted yourself there sir.


Where? Those 2 value a bunk up more than an international cap.

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:08 - Mar 18 with 799 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:54 - Mar 18 by kernow

Because I would be proud to honour my grandfather.
Because I would want to play international football.
Because I wouldn't concern myself with what others thought.

I can't answer questions two and three. Best ask him I suggest.

That's your opinion, see point 3 above.


Was his Scottish grandfather honoured when he played for England?

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 12:21 - Mar 18 with 754 viewskernow

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:06 - Mar 18 by barry_sanchez

Where? Those 2 value a bunk up more than an international cap.


I asked if it meant that all young players thought the same way as those two. Your response was , " no of course it doesn't."
In the next post you inferred that "young players" behave in a similar fashion.
Which is it?
Young players generally or just those two?

As for whether his Scottish grandfather was honoured that he played for England? How am I supposed to know?
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 07:02 - Mar 19 with 716 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 12:21 - Mar 18 by kernow

I asked if it meant that all young players thought the same way as those two. Your response was , " no of course it doesn't."
In the next post you inferred that "young players" behave in a similar fashion.
Which is it?
Young players generally or just those two?

As for whether his Scottish grandfather was honoured that he played for England? How am I supposed to know?


In general, generally international football isn't thought of as highly as it once was by clubs, fans and players, players on the periphery may cherish their few caps more but regulars can't be arsed, it shows.
This can be seen by 2 future England regulars of Foden and Greenwood who already can't be arsed by breaching protocol in a pandemic for a bunk up, its not an all or nothing scenario of is and isn't, by and large no one particularly cares for international football anymore, its a shame but a reality.

As for Adams choosing Scotland, fair enough but that is because he wasn't picked by England so therefore he chose a second option, that is being disingenuous to Scotland fans as they'll see through that (if he fails), they've suffered this for years where as we don't as our national jersey still pulls in an awful lot of money in deals out of football.

Is he Scottish now? Well it would be hollow to be so wouldn't it?

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 08:19 - Mar 19 with 693 viewsAndylad63

European International football has been devalued by the satellite television stations as the quite often do not have exclusive rights to show all the matches. Perhaps in South America, the superstars of Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay get sky excited but a bent nosed, speech impaired man, who doesn't play for Liverpool or MU is your poster boy you can understand their stance. Roy Keane is used by Sky because he will make incendiary remarks which grab headlines. Even at 57 I can trap a ball I have Welsh, Scottish and English roots and I can categorically confirm I have not been scouted, approached or tapped up to play for either so wtf do you know Roy!!!
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 15:40 - Mar 19 with 672 viewscocklebreath

Barry’s a bit of a knob

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 07:12 - Mar 20 with 634 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 15:40 - Mar 19 by cocklebreath

Barry’s a bit of a knob


For saying international football is now shite and Che Adams is using this as a career move as opposed to have always wanted to have played for Scotland, oh look there is a major tournament over there.............................

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 07:17 - Mar 20 with 630 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 08:19 - Mar 19 by Andylad63

European International football has been devalued by the satellite television stations as the quite often do not have exclusive rights to show all the matches. Perhaps in South America, the superstars of Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay get sky excited but a bent nosed, speech impaired man, who doesn't play for Liverpool or MU is your poster boy you can understand their stance. Roy Keane is used by Sky because he will make incendiary remarks which grab headlines. Even at 57 I can trap a ball I have Welsh, Scottish and English roots and I can categorically confirm I have not been scouted, approached or tapped up to play for either so wtf do you know Roy!!!


I think as opposed to being literal it was a reference to the amount of caps dished out due to the unavailability of the better players due to them not being arsed in friendly and some qualifiers even, caps are dished out now and have become worth much less than they were, big team managers don't aspire to run their nations team at one point, we got fat Sam and now Southgate, both unremarkable managers.

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:24 - Mar 20 with 604 viewsChesham_Saint

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:54 - Mar 18 by kernow

Because I would be proud to honour my grandfather.
Because I would want to play international football.
Because I wouldn't concern myself with what others thought.

I can't answer questions two and three. Best ask him I suggest.

That's your opinion, see point 3 above.


I’m beginning to wonder just what the point of international football is. The country you may be selected for should really, really mean something to you; not just some vague rational of making grandad proud. It’s meant to be an honour. If you don’t have any real love for the place you should not represent it. It’s not like just playing for a bigger club FFS.

In short, I have zero respect for any ‘plastics’.

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:39 - Mar 20 with 591 viewskernow

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 09:24 - Mar 20 by Chesham_Saint

I’m beginning to wonder just what the point of international football is. The country you may be selected for should really, really mean something to you; not just some vague rational of making grandad proud. It’s meant to be an honour. If you don’t have any real love for the place you should not represent it. It’s not like just playing for a bigger club FFS.

In short, I have zero respect for any ‘plastics’.


Your respect is not something I particularly need or want for that matter.
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:42 - Mar 20 with 590 viewskernow

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:39 - Mar 20 by kernow

Your respect is not something I particularly need or want for that matter.


Who is to say he hasn't any love for Scotland? I don't know and neither do you.
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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 12:06 - Mar 20 with 579 viewsChesham_Saint

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:39 - Mar 20 by kernow

Your respect is not something I particularly need or want for that matter.


What?! I wasn’t referring to you personally, but professional players who turn out for countries for which they have no real affiliation.

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Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 12:51 - Mar 20 with 571 viewsbarry_sanchez

Che n Scotland Squad For World Cup Qualifiers on 10:42 - Mar 20 by kernow

Who is to say he hasn't any love for Scotland? I don't know and neither do you.


He must have a transferable life as he has already played fir the country if his birth, bizarre thought process if he now declares himself Scottish, or are youth caps now devalued as they count for little?

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