| Drinking at the match 07:35 - Sep 24 with 2577 views | EllDale |
It’s reported in some of this morning’s papers that the Prime Minister is to consider repealing laws which prevent fans from drinking alcohol whilst watching the game.
He says that that they’re “outdated”.
Personally I’m not so sure that it will improve things especially given the modern tendency to throw beer into the air when a goal is scored.
The clubs may well back the idea as another revenue stream.
The police, on the other hand, have asked for a meeting to “express their concerns”. |  | | |  |
| Drinking at the match on 07:51 - Sep 24 with 2537 views | BromsgroveDale |
I watch 4 or 5 matches each season at Venezia FC. Beer is sold there and can be consumed whilst you watch the game from your seat. In principle it sounds like a good idea but some people are up and down so often they spend more time out of their seat than sat on it.
Agree with the OP that chucking beer up to 'celebrate' would be a menace. |  |
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| Drinking at the match on 08:36 - Sep 24 with 2450 views | rod_leach |
As someone who sits near the end of a row, getting up and down constantly would not help my enjoyment of a game |  | | |
| Drinking at the match on 09:52 - Sep 24 with 2328 views | SJE_Dale |
I think it's a nonsensical idea and would set clubs back 20 years in regards to being family and inclusive clubs.
You only have to look at clips of England games to see how performative and wasteful it will get. Maybe slightly more acceptable at the height of summer in a beer garden but on a cold Tuesday night away at Port Vale? No thank you. | | | |
| Drinking at the match on 10:34 - Sep 24 with 2251 views | D_Alien |
Burnham's argument is that it "discriminates" against football. Incredibly poor judgement in that case, based on "equality"-type thinking which excludes common sense
The amount of plastic left in the stands to clear up? More costs, especially at the lower end of the scale. Beer thrown in the air (arguments, possibly leading to fights in the stands), disruption to viewing, nowhere to rest the cup to applaud, a gradual and inevitable coating of stale ale all over the seating and floor, including more slippery steep steps, increased drunkeness, especially by full time, bladders getting full and then using empty cups to relieve themselves (although useful when bogs are closed off at the end of games... but i digress), the contents of those cups then getting thrown around...
Great idea Andy, now go back to doing your day job, you've got a country in a downward malaise to concentrate on [Post edited 24 Sep 11:26]
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| Drinking at the match on 12:55 - Sep 24 with 2002 views | EllDale |
| Drinking at the match on 10:34 - Sep 24 by D_Alien |
Burnham's argument is that it "discriminates" against football. Incredibly poor judgement in that case, based on "equality"-type thinking which excludes common sense
The amount of plastic left in the stands to clear up? More costs, especially at the lower end of the scale. Beer thrown in the air (arguments, possibly leading to fights in the stands), disruption to viewing, nowhere to rest the cup to applaud, a gradual and inevitable coating of stale ale all over the seating and floor, including more slippery steep steps, increased drunkeness, especially by full time, bladders getting full and then using empty cups to relieve themselves (although useful when bogs are closed off at the end of games... but i digress), the contents of those cups then getting thrown around...
Great idea Andy, now go back to doing your day job, you've got a country in a downward malaise to concentrate on [Post edited 24 Sep 11:26]
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I couldn’t agree more.
The rule doesn’t apply in rugby and you can miss half the game if you’re unlucky with a constant stream of people going backwards and forwards to bars and/or toilets.
The strange thing is that I can never really remember a drinking through the game culture existing at Spotland before the ban came into place? | | | |
| Drinking at the match on 13:14 - Sep 24 with 1958 views | D_Alien |
| Drinking at the match on 12:55 - Sep 24 by EllDale |
I couldn’t agree more.
The rule doesn’t apply in rugby and you can miss half the game if you’re unlucky with a constant stream of people going backwards and forwards to bars and/or toilets.
The strange thing is that I can never really remember a drinking through the game culture existing at Spotland before the ban came into place? |
You can't remember it because there's never been one, and Spotland isn't an exception. The only time i've ever watched a game live with a drink in my hand was in one of the Dale boxes which was hired for a special family occasion (and it was like watching on a wide-screen tv with the sound turned down low)
Yes, rugby and cricket have drinking in often tightly-packed stands. The Western Terrace at Headingley springs to mind, but the emotions generated (apart from very rare and short periods) are less potent. There's also no fan segregation... now that'd tell any thinking person there's something different about football crowds from the aforementioned and other sports
In addition, trying to attract a wider demographic would be much more difficult with drinking in stands, whilst i doubt there's any real fan who doesn't turn up because they can't take a drink to their seat
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| Drinking at the match on 13:35 - Sep 24 with 1914 views | JimmyRustler |
| Drinking at the match on 10:34 - Sep 24 by D_Alien |
Burnham's argument is that it "discriminates" against football. Incredibly poor judgement in that case, based on "equality"-type thinking which excludes common sense
The amount of plastic left in the stands to clear up? More costs, especially at the lower end of the scale. Beer thrown in the air (arguments, possibly leading to fights in the stands), disruption to viewing, nowhere to rest the cup to applaud, a gradual and inevitable coating of stale ale all over the seating and floor, including more slippery steep steps, increased drunkeness, especially by full time, bladders getting full and then using empty cups to relieve themselves (although useful when bogs are closed off at the end of games... but i digress), the contents of those cups then getting thrown around...
Great idea Andy, now go back to doing your day job, you've got a country in a downward malaise to concentrate on [Post edited 24 Sep 11:26]
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Agreed, it’s just a headline grabbing attempt (some would say desperate) to sway what the powers be would deem to be a disaffected and defecting cross section of people.
I’m hoping the more sensible people can see through it and appreciate the negative implications that the decision could have on the match day experience. You are able to have an alcoholic beverage before the game, at half time and after the game, why do you need to drink whilst watching the game? [Post edited 24 Sep 13:36]
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| Drinking at the match on 15:16 - Sep 24 with 1791 views | watford_dale |
| Drinking at the match on 13:35 - Sep 24 by JimmyRustler |
Agreed, it’s just a headline grabbing attempt (some would say desperate) to sway what the powers be would deem to be a disaffected and defecting cross section of people.
I’m hoping the more sensible people can see through it and appreciate the negative implications that the decision could have on the match day experience. You are able to have an alcoholic beverage before the game, at half time and after the game, why do you need to drink whilst watching the game? [Post edited 24 Sep 13:36]
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I can see it working at all seater stadiums, especially the prem. The issue with people going to bars would be removed by employing beer sellers to serve you at your seat like they do in baseball. The clubs would love the match day income. But focus on drinking at football burnham, defence and the impending cap in hand bailout visit to the imf can be put off to tomorrow. | | | |
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| Drinking at the match on 15:49 - Sep 24 with 1727 views | BigKindo |
| Drinking at the match on 10:34 - Sep 24 by D_Alien |
Burnham's argument is that it "discriminates" against football. Incredibly poor judgement in that case, based on "equality"-type thinking which excludes common sense
The amount of plastic left in the stands to clear up? More costs, especially at the lower end of the scale. Beer thrown in the air (arguments, possibly leading to fights in the stands), disruption to viewing, nowhere to rest the cup to applaud, a gradual and inevitable coating of stale ale all over the seating and floor, including more slippery steep steps, increased drunkeness, especially by full time, bladders getting full and then using empty cups to relieve themselves (although useful when bogs are closed off at the end of games... but i digress), the contents of those cups then getting thrown around...
Great idea Andy, now go back to doing your day job, you've got a country in a downward malaise to concentrate on [Post edited 24 Sep 11:26]
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Some very good points here. What also concerns me is that such antics might dissuade existing and potentially new family ticket holders from attending matches.
I am starting to wonder if Burnham is drinking to forget. |  | | |
| Drinking at the match on 16:01 - Sep 24 with 1700 views | BigKindo |
| Drinking at the match on 15:16 - Sep 24 by watford_dale |
I can see it working at all seater stadiums, especially the prem. The issue with people going to bars would be removed by employing beer sellers to serve you at your seat like they do in baseball. The clubs would love the match day income. But focus on drinking at football burnham, defence and the impending cap in hand bailout visit to the imf can be put off to tomorrow. |
Over the past 30 years I have visited many major league baseball stadia. The drinking culture is entirely different to English footie grounds. Over a circa 3 hour period a drinker might imbibe in 2 or 3 bottles of Bud. Excess drinking is not encouraged and only once I have I actually seen somebody drunk at a game.
I did attend a European game at Celtic Park in the late 70's. The area from the turnstiles to the bottom of the terraces was a moat of urine. During the match copious amounts of canned ale were drunk. The empty cans were then used as a urinal the contents of which were then tipped around the feet of the supporters standing in front of them. | | | |
| Drinking at the match on 16:20 - Sep 24 with 1645 views | judd |
| Drinking at the match on 13:35 - Sep 24 by JimmyRustler |
Agreed, it’s just a headline grabbing attempt (some would say desperate) to sway what the powers be would deem to be a disaffected and defecting cross section of people.
I’m hoping the more sensible people can see through it and appreciate the negative implications that the decision could have on the match day experience. You are able to have an alcoholic beverage before the game, at half time and after the game, why do you need to drink whilst watching the game? [Post edited 24 Sep 13:36]
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Depends who you are watching, I suppose.
Did anyone see if Fondop put a beer down before shooting last Saturday? |  |
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| Drinking at the match on 16:41 - Sep 24 with 1604 views | EllDale |
Looked like he’d had a few already. | | | |
| Drinking at the match on 17:36 - Sep 24 with 1508 views | 442Dale |
Don’t think it’s a good idea but each club will be free to implement their own plans and Dale could (and should) just not allow drinks to be taken out of the bars.
If we ever do see it at Spotland, and I think this may all yet not come to pass, it’ll be the choice of our football club and fans/CAB etc can ensure the correct decision is made. |  |
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| Drinking at the match on 18:20 - Sep 24 with 1444 views | pioneer |
| Drinking at the match on 17:36 - Sep 24 by 442Dale |
Don’t think it’s a good idea but each club will be free to implement their own plans and Dale could (and should) just not allow drinks to be taken out of the bars.
If we ever do see it at Spotland, and I think this may all yet not come to pass, it’ll be the choice of our football club and fans/CAB etc can ensure the correct decision is made. |
If it is allowed the ‘dash for cash’ will be the over riding factor…irrespective of what it means for the gameday experience. | | | |
| Drinking at the match on 18:22 - Sep 24 with 1439 views | 442Dale |
| Drinking at the match on 18:20 - Sep 24 by pioneer |
If it is allowed the ‘dash for cash’ will be the over riding factor…irrespective of what it means for the gameday experience. |
And that will be all on the club. Fans can rightly be concerned at the possible change in the first place, but their views are the ones the club should take on board. | |
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| Drinking at the match on 18:46 - Sep 24 with 1395 views | pnc4eva1 |
Personally I don't think its is necessary. Plus the beer will be served in plastic cups which is just not right for beer |  |
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| Drinking at the match on 20:02 - Sep 24 with 1290 views | windowsbug2002 |
Sad to think some cant go 45-50 minutes without a pint.
It'll be OK in the exec boxes as such, but on the terraces or stands? |  | | |
| Drinking at the match on 10:04 - Sep 25 with 822 views | dingdangblue |
| Drinking at the match on 20:02 - Sep 24 by windowsbug2002 |
Sad to think some cant go 45-50 minutes without a pint.
It'll be OK in the exec boxes as such, but on the terraces or stands? |
Exactly, Burnham will be sat in an exec box at Everton wondering why he can't drink his pint whilst the game is on. It's not needed in the stands or the terraces. Have a pint before, at ht and after the game if you desperately need it. |  |
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| Drinking at the match on 10:08 - Sep 25 with 816 views | isitme |
There are enough people up and down during the game as it is. This would make it worse. At least at the cricket they can get in and out of a row in between overs. |  | | |
| Drinking at the match on 11:31 - Sep 25 with 736 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Drinking at the match on 20:02 - Sep 24 by windowsbug2002 |
Sad to think some cant go 45-50 minutes without a pint.
It'll be OK in the exec boxes as such, but on the terraces or stands? |
Exactly this.. can drink until 2.50pm if so wished.
Pint at 3.45 and as many as you like from 5pm..
Football has moved on and plastic glasses flying about with piss in them is no way forward.
Just why that trend has started is beyond me... (concert venues currently). | | | |
| Drinking at the match on 14:58 - Sep 25 with 560 views | Duckegg |
Not to keen on the idea tbh but if Burnham gets his way and you can have drink of ale while in the stands then i hope that the Dale board see sense and opt out of the idea.. |  | | |
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