| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running 10:02 - Dec 23 with 796 views | felly1 |
I think he's improved this time around.
Stats don't back up what my eyes see sadly.
Probably a big factor in why we are likely to not get promoted this season, along with a ropey defence obviously.
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 10:12 - Dec 23 with 764 views | cocklebreath |
Yep and the year he played in the prem he was bottom by a country mile, think he was the 2nd worse rated goalie of all time but weird people will tell you he’s decent.hes not he’s absolutely shit |  |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 10:27 - Dec 23 with 719 views | SaintNick |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 10:12 - Dec 23 by cocklebreath |
Yep and the year he played in the prem he was bottom by a country mile, think he was the 2nd worse rated goalie of all time but weird people will tell you he’s decent.hes not he’s absolutely shit |
I dont see why people froth at the mouth when Bazunu was mentioned, yes he was not great in his one Premier League season, but he was an inexperienced 20 year old behind the worst defence in the worst team in the league in total disarray.
You cannot judge him on that season
But no one seems to wipe the slate clean and give him a chance, I find myself constantly defending him because of so many people spitting feathers at him.
Lets judge him on what he does this season since Tonda took over, we have won 6 out of 9 games and drawn one losing just two.
He has not made a glaring error , a couple of goals where he might have done better, but in the main fairly solid and in the last few games he has been solid and made some great saves.
He is improving and benefitting from a settled defence.
Yet still there is always someone popping up and bringing up a stat or two.
Against Coventry he made several smart saves and didn't put a foot or hand wrong, he had no chance with their goal with the guy being totally unmarked from close range, and in every other aspect he did his job.
If Tim Flowers had been given as much stick as this, he would probably have been destroyed at the Dell before his career had started and enjoyed a long career in the Third division.
I'm sorry but this is just getting ridiculous, there is a witch hunt against a player who has always tried his best, never shirked and whose only crime has been playing badly at times in teams that were playing just as badly.
The point has been made so why the hatred and lets be blunt it is hatred |  |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 10:48 - Dec 23 with 690 views | cocklebreath |
I don’t hate him just hate him being our first choice goalie | |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 11:01 - Dec 23 with 680 views | SaintNick |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 10:48 - Dec 23 by cocklebreath |
I don’t hate him just hate him being our first choice goalie |
You are entitled to that opinion, but as it stands at the moment he is the best keeper at the club, nothing can change that at the moment at least until January.
Until then let him get on and see where we go and then moan about it in January, if we don't get a replacement and he is still first choice in February, then again let him get on with it till May
As they say in football you are only as good as your last game, in fairness to Bazunu, if this run of 9 games with 6 wins and a draw was at the start of a season and he had just joined the club, we would be quietly impressed with his performance in those games.
Goalkeepers don't mature till they are 24/25, Tim Flowers first 3 years at the club were not convincing, Kelvin Davies first 3 years were similar, he only came good in that first League one season,
All I am saying is keep an open mind and if he keeps up his good form in the next few games perhaps he is the man for the job.
This is the Championship, there are few truly Premier League class keepers in it. | |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 11:03 - Dec 23 with 677 views | felly1 |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 10:27 - Dec 23 by SaintNick |
I dont see why people froth at the mouth when Bazunu was mentioned, yes he was not great in his one Premier League season, but he was an inexperienced 20 year old behind the worst defence in the worst team in the league in total disarray.
You cannot judge him on that season
But no one seems to wipe the slate clean and give him a chance, I find myself constantly defending him because of so many people spitting feathers at him.
Lets judge him on what he does this season since Tonda took over, we have won 6 out of 9 games and drawn one losing just two.
He has not made a glaring error , a couple of goals where he might have done better, but in the main fairly solid and in the last few games he has been solid and made some great saves.
He is improving and benefitting from a settled defence.
Yet still there is always someone popping up and bringing up a stat or two.
Against Coventry he made several smart saves and didn't put a foot or hand wrong, he had no chance with their goal with the guy being totally unmarked from close range, and in every other aspect he did his job.
If Tim Flowers had been given as much stick as this, he would probably have been destroyed at the Dell before his career had started and enjoyed a long career in the Third division.
I'm sorry but this is just getting ridiculous, there is a witch hunt against a player who has always tried his best, never shirked and whose only crime has been playing badly at times in teams that were playing just as badly.
The point has been made so why the hatred and lets be blunt it is hatred |
That's ridiculous Nick to say its hatred.
I don't think anyone hates him, yes a few comments are OTT but he is consistently bottom of the table in both Championship seasons.
Saints fans just want a keeper that makes saves that win us games.
Its quite normal that supporters have opinions on players that just because they dont match yours doesn't make them wrong. | | | |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 11:45 - Dec 23 with 633 views | 1885_SFC |
No surprise to see Viktor Johansson at the top end of that list.
We may as well have Scarlett Johansson between the sticks & we'd still be where we are in the table. |  |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 11:51 - Dec 23 with 623 views | saint22 |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 11:45 - Dec 23 by 1885_SFC |
No surprise to see Viktor Johansson at the top end of that list.
We may as well have Scarlett Johansson between the sticks & we'd still be where we are in the table. |
Yep
That’s one of the biggest errors ever us not splashing cash to sign him | | | |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 11:53 - Dec 23 with 625 views | PatfromPoole |
I don't hate Gavin Bazunu.
He is committed to the club, and if he plays at Fratton in a few weeks, he will get absolute pelters from their fans.
However, Nick you are I believe a fan of the odd stat or two.
I take on board your point re his first season in the Prem, as he was playing behind a defence which simply was not good enough.
However, I seem to recall his shots saved v shots faced ratio was one of the poorest in the Championship two seasons ago, when we had a defence which was playing against much less potent attacks.
His stats just never seem to be very good sadly.
Coventry's keeper looked very good on Saturday, and you can tell it reflects in the confidence his team play with. |  |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 12:43 - Dec 23 with 577 views | SaintNick |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 11:53 - Dec 23 by PatfromPoole |
I don't hate Gavin Bazunu.
He is committed to the club, and if he plays at Fratton in a few weeks, he will get absolute pelters from their fans.
However, Nick you are I believe a fan of the odd stat or two.
I take on board your point re his first season in the Prem, as he was playing behind a defence which simply was not good enough.
However, I seem to recall his shots saved v shots faced ratio was one of the poorest in the Championship two seasons ago, when we had a defence which was playing against much less potent attacks.
His stats just never seem to be very good sadly.
Coventry's keeper looked very good on Saturday, and you can tell it reflects in the confidence his team play with. |
The stats point keeps on getting brought up, but stats are a tool not the full picture.
On Saturday Coventry had 3 shots on target, 1 went in, what the stat didn't show is the one that went in was a point blank free header because our defence didn't mark up, was the goal in any way shape or form Bazunu's fault.
In our promotion season it was a similar story we could keep the ball and defend well but couldn't mark up and defend in key areas and got caught on the break and passing the ball.
I would say many of those goals against in that season came from fairly close range where the the keeper had no chance, yes there were some he should have saved but that is every keeper.
So lets take stats on a head to head with Johanssen, Rotherham had two shots on target both saved by Bazunu, Saints had 7 on target and 2 went in, so which keeper had the best stats.
The stats don't tell the full picture, in fact in a game like this they blur it,
If we look at the % of shots saved this season , Bazunu has a 61.5% ratio, that is about average to be honest, most keepers in the division are around the 60-69% mark.
Nicolas Schmid of Portsmouth who has played in 11 games has ratio of 75%, Bursik their other keeper who has played in the other 9 has 61.5 % ratio the same as Bazunu.
Bazunu has had 52 shots on target he has saved 32 of them.
So stats mean nothing, they don't tell you how the goal was conceded, whether the keeper was beaten from a free header from 5 yards or whether it slipped under him.
Bazunu had a 63.9% average in 2023/24 again about average, but what the stats didnt reveal was that 19 of those goals came in the first 8 games.
If we took those goals out then Bazunu's stats would look a lot better, even if we halved them it would still probably push his ratio up to around 70%.
In 23/24 for that 22 game unbeaten run we conceded less goals than any other team in that period, meaning that Bazunu let in less goals than anyone else, no one apart from me seems to bring up that fact. | |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 14:47 - Dec 23 with 486 views | Butty101 |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 12:43 - Dec 23 by SaintNick |
The stats point keeps on getting brought up, but stats are a tool not the full picture.
On Saturday Coventry had 3 shots on target, 1 went in, what the stat didn't show is the one that went in was a point blank free header because our defence didn't mark up, was the goal in any way shape or form Bazunu's fault.
In our promotion season it was a similar story we could keep the ball and defend well but couldn't mark up and defend in key areas and got caught on the break and passing the ball.
I would say many of those goals against in that season came from fairly close range where the the keeper had no chance, yes there were some he should have saved but that is every keeper.
So lets take stats on a head to head with Johanssen, Rotherham had two shots on target both saved by Bazunu, Saints had 7 on target and 2 went in, so which keeper had the best stats.
The stats don't tell the full picture, in fact in a game like this they blur it,
If we look at the % of shots saved this season , Bazunu has a 61.5% ratio, that is about average to be honest, most keepers in the division are around the 60-69% mark.
Nicolas Schmid of Portsmouth who has played in 11 games has ratio of 75%, Bursik their other keeper who has played in the other 9 has 61.5 % ratio the same as Bazunu.
Bazunu has had 52 shots on target he has saved 32 of them.
So stats mean nothing, they don't tell you how the goal was conceded, whether the keeper was beaten from a free header from 5 yards or whether it slipped under him.
Bazunu had a 63.9% average in 2023/24 again about average, but what the stats didnt reveal was that 19 of those goals came in the first 8 games.
If we took those goals out then Bazunu's stats would look a lot better, even if we halved them it would still probably push his ratio up to around 70%.
In 23/24 for that 22 game unbeaten run we conceded less goals than any other team in that period, meaning that Bazunu let in less goals than anyone else, no one apart from me seems to bring up that fact. |
Honestly if you bring that bloody unbeaten run up one more time........... That happened in spite of him.
Hes just not up to it, he dosent have a presence in goal. He looks like a little boy stood in the goal . Never comes for crosses. Even Saturdays goal he was flat on his feet - Im not saying he could of saved it, but he could of got closer. |  |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 16:02 - Dec 23 with 439 views | cocklebreath |
It’s confirmed Nick is Gavins sugar daddy | |
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| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 10:50 - Dec 24 with 219 views | StAnt |
| Bazunu propping up the table 2nd Championship season running on 12:43 - Dec 23 by SaintNick |
The stats point keeps on getting brought up, but stats are a tool not the full picture.
On Saturday Coventry had 3 shots on target, 1 went in, what the stat didn't show is the one that went in was a point blank free header because our defence didn't mark up, was the goal in any way shape or form Bazunu's fault.
In our promotion season it was a similar story we could keep the ball and defend well but couldn't mark up and defend in key areas and got caught on the break and passing the ball.
I would say many of those goals against in that season came from fairly close range where the the keeper had no chance, yes there were some he should have saved but that is every keeper.
So lets take stats on a head to head with Johanssen, Rotherham had two shots on target both saved by Bazunu, Saints had 7 on target and 2 went in, so which keeper had the best stats.
The stats don't tell the full picture, in fact in a game like this they blur it,
If we look at the % of shots saved this season , Bazunu has a 61.5% ratio, that is about average to be honest, most keepers in the division are around the 60-69% mark.
Nicolas Schmid of Portsmouth who has played in 11 games has ratio of 75%, Bursik their other keeper who has played in the other 9 has 61.5 % ratio the same as Bazunu.
Bazunu has had 52 shots on target he has saved 32 of them.
So stats mean nothing, they don't tell you how the goal was conceded, whether the keeper was beaten from a free header from 5 yards or whether it slipped under him.
Bazunu had a 63.9% average in 2023/24 again about average, but what the stats didnt reveal was that 19 of those goals came in the first 8 games.
If we took those goals out then Bazunu's stats would look a lot better, even if we halved them it would still probably push his ratio up to around 70%.
In 23/24 for that 22 game unbeaten run we conceded less goals than any other team in that period, meaning that Bazunu let in less goals than anyone else, no one apart from me seems to bring up that fact. |
Keep digging but he is consistently bottom or close to it in every league he plays in. That should tell you he aint a decent goalkeeper. | | | |
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