| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... 12:59 - Nov 8 with 1540 views | TripleNiemi |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:32 - Nov 8 with 0 views | SportRepubic |
Dobbin appears to be no discernible improvement on Archer.
An entirely fruitless use of the transfer budget. |  | | |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:37 - Nov 8 with 0 views | 1teeminants |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:32 - Nov 8 by SportRepubic |
Dobbin appears to be no discernible improvement on Archer.
An entirely fruitless use of the transfer budget. |
Archer has scored 6 goals in 7 games for Auxerre . Those saying get a proven striker at this level you’re talking 20 million now even at this level . When did we last pay that sort of money for one player ? |  |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:43 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Tonyfromdk |
The question is. Is there a player who plays in Bundesliga 2, who’s better.. | | | |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:48 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Southamptonfan |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:37 - Nov 8 by 1teeminants |
Archer has scored 6 goals in 7 games for Auxerre . Those saying get a proven striker at this level you’re talking 20 million now even at this level . When did we last pay that sort of money for one player ? |
Lankshear cost Boro 10 million, with some add ons. You save the 9 million we spent on Dobbin, keep Robinson and buy Lankshear for 10 million. It's as simple as that and that it is why it so frustrating. Saints try to be clever - look at us, we found a gem from Man City reserves. Just be done with it, and splash out on a proven striker that scored a hatful of goals from last season. If it costs total 15 million so what? Just don't buy Dobbin and keep Robinson.
Last season, Hull signed Mcburnie on a free transfer. Mubama was never the answer. 4 goals for Stoke, whose fans said he was lazy and poor. So to me it isn't rocket science. Even Piroe cost very little for West Ham, again a proven striker at this level. [Post edited 8 Nov 13:53]
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 14:31 - Nov 8 with 0 views | 1885_SFC |
I don't like disrespecting our own players - I really don't.
But Mubama really is dross. |  |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 14:49 - Nov 8 with 0 views | cocklebreath |
If we kept Robinson, sold Edozie, kept archer and didn’t buy dobbin we would have had enough for lankshear and win the league |  |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 15:21 - Nov 8 with 0 views | GRIM |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:48 - Nov 8 by Southamptonfan |
Lankshear cost Boro 10 million, with some add ons. You save the 9 million we spent on Dobbin, keep Robinson and buy Lankshear for 10 million. It's as simple as that and that it is why it so frustrating. Saints try to be clever - look at us, we found a gem from Man City reserves. Just be done with it, and splash out on a proven striker that scored a hatful of goals from last season. If it costs total 15 million so what? Just don't buy Dobbin and keep Robinson.
Last season, Hull signed Mcburnie on a free transfer. Mubama was never the answer. 4 goals for Stoke, whose fans said he was lazy and poor. So to me it isn't rocket science. Even Piroe cost very little for West Ham, again a proven striker at this level. [Post edited 8 Nov 13:53]
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Why do we all assume that Lankshear was interested in coming here in the summer.
We were a club in the news for all the wrong reasons, at that time it was distinctly possible that we didn't know who the Coach / Manager would be for this season.
It looked like we'd lose a few players in the transfer window.
Not surprising that Lankshear signed for Boro.
At that time it was the best option for him.
Let's move on, as much as we'd have liked Lankshear we haven't got him.
it is what is & we have to make do with the likes of Dobbin & Mubama. | | | |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 17:51 - Nov 8 with 0 views | 1teeminants |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 13:48 - Nov 8 by Southamptonfan |
Lankshear cost Boro 10 million, with some add ons. You save the 9 million we spent on Dobbin, keep Robinson and buy Lankshear for 10 million. It's as simple as that and that it is why it so frustrating. Saints try to be clever - look at us, we found a gem from Man City reserves. Just be done with it, and splash out on a proven striker that scored a hatful of goals from last season. If it costs total 15 million so what? Just don't buy Dobbin and keep Robinson.
Last season, Hull signed Mcburnie on a free transfer. Mubama was never the answer. 4 goals for Stoke, whose fans said he was lazy and poor. So to me it isn't rocket science. Even Piroe cost very little for West Ham, again a proven striker at this level. [Post edited 8 Nov 13:53]
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Lankshear will probably be off in January. There are various prem clubs interested in him. It’s easy to say things in hindsight . Dobbin scored a lot of goals for Preston last season and it was reasonable to think he’d do the same for us . | |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 18:05 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Southamptonfan |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 17:51 - Nov 8 by 1teeminants |
Lankshear will probably be off in January. There are various prem clubs interested in him. It’s easy to say things in hindsight . Dobbin scored a lot of goals for Preston last season and it was reasonable to think he’d do the same for us . |
Lankshear won't be allowed to leave in January. And if he does, Boro will make tens of millions. That's the thing, it isn't in hindsight. Dobbin is a winger. We have plenty of wingers, Fellows, Edozie, Sciensa, Robinson, Archer. There was no need to spend 9 million on a winger but there was a need to spend on a striker. We knew that months ago, it's not something that we have just suddenly realised in hindsight. The 9 million should have been spent on a striker and not on a winger that we didn't need! We knew this months ago. They bought Dobbin because they thought a young player would be a good investment and make them money, rather than a squad decision. He has potential but we are playing a winger up front as our main striker because we don't have anyone else! If that isn't bad planning for a side aiming to win the league, I don't know what is.
We lost Stewart who is a striker and replaced him with Mubama who had only scored 4 goals all season as a striker and all the Stoke fans said he was rubbish. It's not hindsight, we knew he was rubbish, yet we signed him because he is cheap. At the very beginning of the season, everyone.said we were light up front, that was said then, again not in hindsight. So that is why it is so annoying. Having one good striker is a stupid decision, and Saints should have got another proven, decent striker in the summer. We all said it then, and now Larin is.injured, we are struggling as we all predicted. We are still up there, we have a great manager, but these fine details might cost us. [Post edited 8 Nov 18:17]
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:07 - Nov 8 with 0 views | 1ASIN12 |
We are not far off if you add our 4 points on.
However it was always going to be a struggle to get automatic with the -4 and as pointed out above it’s the fine lines. Our lack of firepower / striker will cost us automatic promotion and if we are not careful it may cost us our playoff spot too.
We’ve been lucky this season that 15 different players have scored for us and this has kept us in the hunt for a top 8 place, it’s days like yesterday where we were crying out for a “Ross Stewart” type player as when the other players don’t score we need the striker to.
Not sure if we have any money available and more than likely have to use the loan market to get a striker in, in January, hoping the club have someone lined up. | |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:19 - Nov 8 with 0 views | dirk_doone |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:07 - Nov 8 by 1ASIN12 |
We are not far off if you add our 4 points on.
However it was always going to be a struggle to get automatic with the -4 and as pointed out above it’s the fine lines. Our lack of firepower / striker will cost us automatic promotion and if we are not careful it may cost us our playoff spot too.
We’ve been lucky this season that 15 different players have scored for us and this has kept us in the hunt for a top 8 place, it’s days like yesterday where we were crying out for a “Ross Stewart” type player as when the other players don’t score we need the striker to.
Not sure if we have any money available and more than likely have to use the loan market to get a striker in, in January, hoping the club have someone lined up. |
They may not be the answer, but Princewill Ehibhatiomhan and Sillah Dibaga are such prolific goal scorers for the U21s that they deserve a chance to show what they can do at first team level. It's not as if we'll be missing much if Mubama and Dobbin are replaced for 20 minutes or so from the subs bench. |  |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:28 - Nov 8 with 0 views | 1ASIN12 |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:19 - Nov 8 by dirk_doone |
They may not be the answer, but Princewill Ehibhatiomhan and Sillah Dibaga are such prolific goal scorers for the U21s that they deserve a chance to show what they can do at first team level. It's not as if we'll be missing much if Mubama and Dobbin are replaced for 20 minutes or so from the subs bench. |
We were saying as much on the train home yesterday.
We may as well play them as we won’t be any worse , and there’s a chance we may actually be better. | |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:48 - Nov 8 with 0 views | GRIM |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:19 - Nov 8 by dirk_doone |
They may not be the answer, but Princewill Ehibhatiomhan and Sillah Dibaga are such prolific goal scorers for the U21s that they deserve a chance to show what they can do at first team level. It's not as if we'll be missing much if Mubama and Dobbin are replaced for 20 minutes or so from the subs bench. |
If Princewill & Sillah were scoring those goals in another clubs academy we'd be chasing them.
Do we not trust our own Academy to produce players capable of stepping up to 1st team then why bother investing vast sums of money into our own academy.. | | | |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 11:55 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Manwithnoname |
anyone remember a young lad called Shearer? |  | | |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 12:35 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Ifonly |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 18:05 - Nov 8 by Southamptonfan |
Lankshear won't be allowed to leave in January. And if he does, Boro will make tens of millions. That's the thing, it isn't in hindsight. Dobbin is a winger. We have plenty of wingers, Fellows, Edozie, Sciensa, Robinson, Archer. There was no need to spend 9 million on a winger but there was a need to spend on a striker. We knew that months ago, it's not something that we have just suddenly realised in hindsight. The 9 million should have been spent on a striker and not on a winger that we didn't need! We knew this months ago. They bought Dobbin because they thought a young player would be a good investment and make them money, rather than a squad decision. He has potential but we are playing a winger up front as our main striker because we don't have anyone else! If that isn't bad planning for a side aiming to win the league, I don't know what is.
We lost Stewart who is a striker and replaced him with Mubama who had only scored 4 goals all season as a striker and all the Stoke fans said he was rubbish. It's not hindsight, we knew he was rubbish, yet we signed him because he is cheap. At the very beginning of the season, everyone.said we were light up front, that was said then, again not in hindsight. So that is why it is so annoying. Having one good striker is a stupid decision, and Saints should have got another proven, decent striker in the summer. We all said it then, and now Larin is.injured, we are struggling as we all predicted. We are still up there, we have a great manager, but these fine details might cost us. [Post edited 8 Nov 18:17]
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I agree with you, but it's not a fine detail, it's absolutely central and could well cost us promotion. It's also untrue to say that "we all said it". Most didn't. For example, Nick said we didn't need to sign a 3rd centre forward after we signed Mubama. I didn't see many on here disagreeing with him. You were one of the few who did.
I've been banging on about this ever since we failed to take up our option to keep Ross Stewart. The only way out of it now is to spend way over the odds for a proper centre forward in January. I can't see them doing that, so unless by some miracle Larin plays 2 games a week, we're going to struggle.
Btw, I can also see us repeating the Ross Stewart mistake with Tonda. We failed to extend Stewart's contract because we took the attitude that there was plenty of time, so we could wait. It sounds like that's what's happening with Tonda too. Unfortunately in life, circumstances can change suddenly and then you're out of time. By not tying him down we're just exposing ourselves to more risk. | | | |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 14:39 - Nov 9 with 0 views | kingslandstand1 |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 12:35 - Nov 9 by Ifonly |
I agree with you, but it's not a fine detail, it's absolutely central and could well cost us promotion. It's also untrue to say that "we all said it". Most didn't. For example, Nick said we didn't need to sign a 3rd centre forward after we signed Mubama. I didn't see many on here disagreeing with him. You were one of the few who did.
I've been banging on about this ever since we failed to take up our option to keep Ross Stewart. The only way out of it now is to spend way over the odds for a proper centre forward in January. I can't see them doing that, so unless by some miracle Larin plays 2 games a week, we're going to struggle.
Btw, I can also see us repeating the Ross Stewart mistake with Tonda. We failed to extend Stewart's contract because we took the attitude that there was plenty of time, so we could wait. It sounds like that's what's happening with Tonda too. Unfortunately in life, circumstances can change suddenly and then you're out of time. By not tying him down we're just exposing ourselves to more risk. |
Def this regarding Tonda. Ok, he hasn't proven himself at Prem level but they must surely be in discussion with him.
We stuck with him, he seems happy here, or maybe he is believing all the press plaudits (despite Spygate), and is waiting for a decent offer to test our board? |  |
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| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 18:04 - Nov 9 with 0 views | saint22 |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 20:28 - Nov 8 by 1ASIN12 |
We were saying as much on the train home yesterday.
We may as well play them as we won’t be any worse , and there’s a chance we may actually be better. |
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And Chris Wood in January | | | |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 21:48 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Southamptonfan |
| If Cameron Archer is the answer...... on 12:35 - Nov 9 by Ifonly |
I agree with you, but it's not a fine detail, it's absolutely central and could well cost us promotion. It's also untrue to say that "we all said it". Most didn't. For example, Nick said we didn't need to sign a 3rd centre forward after we signed Mubama. I didn't see many on here disagreeing with him. You were one of the few who did.
I've been banging on about this ever since we failed to take up our option to keep Ross Stewart. The only way out of it now is to spend way over the odds for a proper centre forward in January. I can't see them doing that, so unless by some miracle Larin plays 2 games a week, we're going to struggle.
Btw, I can also see us repeating the Ross Stewart mistake with Tonda. We failed to extend Stewart's contract because we took the attitude that there was plenty of time, so we could wait. It sounds like that's what's happening with Tonda too. Unfortunately in life, circumstances can change suddenly and then you're out of time. By not tying him down we're just exposing ourselves to more risk. |
It does make me wonder why it is taking so long for a new contract for Tonda to be signed. Perhaps the club and Tonda are waiting to see if promotion is achieved before setting out the plan for future years. Tonda definitely owes the club after they stood by him, but he might be pondering his options long term perhaps. If we don't go up, lose parachute payments, lose our best players, the job becomes a different challenge. But you're right, like the Stewart situation, we might miss out on him signing if we don't get it sorted. [Post edited 9 Nov 21:50]
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