| Acted responsibly and with integrity 17:11 - May 24 with 2948 views | saint22 |
Who the hell does he think he is kidding
Ffs
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:37 - May 24 with 1105 views | thissceptredsaint |
Apparently he had 2 family members a couple of streets away he could have called on for child care, something is not right here |  | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:39 - May 24 with 1101 views | JaySaint |
Direct, strong leadership on display
Interesting, jobs, schools and the immediate future is not really a concern anymore
get those bloody schools open!!! | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:51 - May 24 with 1090 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:39 - May 24 by JaySaint |
Direct, strong leadership on display
Interesting, jobs, schools and the immediate future is not really a concern anymore
get those bloody schools open!!! |
Jay - isn't there a moral / ethical issue in play here. Never mind the specifics, how do you feel about the government obfuscating what was clearly a breach of the guidelines by one of their senior advisors. | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:52 - May 24 with 1085 views | thissceptredsaint |
No state school child should go any sooner than a private school child and all children and teachers should be kept safe and at home until real evidence and real planning is on display. It hasn't been. It is another disgrace of this callous and cruel government that we are even talking about this. | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:53 - May 24 with 1078 views | JaySaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:51 - May 24 by cynicalsaint |
Jay - isn't there a moral / ethical issue in play here. Never mind the specifics, how do you feel about the government obfuscating what was clearly a breach of the guidelines by one of their senior advisors. |
I think that is a fair point. But action now would only be fair if the precedent had already been set when Labour / Other MPs broke the guidance.
Nothing happened then. Yet now it should?
This is nothing but a political witch hunt! | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:56 - May 24 with 1069 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:53 - May 24 by JaySaint |
I think that is a fair point. But action now would only be fair if the precedent had already been set when Labour / Other MPs broke the guidance.
Nothing happened then. Yet now it should?
This is nothing but a political witch hunt! |
Two wrongs etc...
The government should be leading by example. I agree that any public figure who disregards the guidelines should face sanction. But just because others haven't doesn't excuse the next one.
Johnson had a clear choice. Do the right thing, or spin.
So disappointed he chose to close ranks. It's not what we need. | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:00 - May 24 with 1059 views | JaySaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:56 - May 24 by cynicalsaint |
Two wrongs etc...
The government should be leading by example. I agree that any public figure who disregards the guidelines should face sanction. But just because others haven't doesn't excuse the next one.
Johnson had a clear choice. Do the right thing, or spin.
So disappointed he chose to close ranks. It's not what we need. |
I believe that any enquiry will look into all people working in/around parliament
which will not be good news for all parties | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:00 - May 24 with 1058 views | saint22 |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:37 - May 24 by thissceptredsaint |
Apparently he had 2 family members a couple of streets away he could have called on for child care, something is not right here |
Regardless of whether or noT Bojo Sacked Dumbinic he should have had the balls to apologise for his actions
To say he acted with integrity is flagrant BS and yet again shows he takes the public for fools
What a state we are in as a little island now | | | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:03 - May 24 with 1051 views | grumpy |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:39 - May 24 by JaySaint |
Direct, strong leadership on display
Interesting, jobs, schools and the immediate future is not really a concern anymore
get those bloody schools open!!! |
'Direct, strong leadership on display'
Are you serious?
So its one rule for us and another for others.
This trip or trips to the north east,that's a long way to travel without a break and with a ill wife in the car with you. |  | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:04 - May 24 with 1048 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:00 - May 24 by saint22 |
Regardless of whether or noT Bojo Sacked Dumbinic he should have had the balls to apologise for his actions
To say he acted with integrity is flagrant BS and yet again shows he takes the public for fools
What a state we are in as a little island now |
are you surprised at the stance he took?
you need to either
(a) chill the f out; or
(b) find a more productive outlet for your anger. Join a political party. Get into local government. Make a difference.
Shouting at the internet is only going to make you more stressed. | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:08 - May 24 with 1032 views | Occasional_Showers |
PMSL at the faux outrage from the far left.
The general public don’t give a toss, and actually you will find that they increasingly turn on the blatant opportunism on display. Boris needs to let them scream and shout because the left are so absorbed by themselves they will overplay their hand. |  |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:10 - May 24 with 1028 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:08 - May 24 by Occasional_Showers |
PMSL at the faux outrage from the far left.
The general public don’t give a toss, and actually you will find that they increasingly turn on the blatant opportunism on display. Boris needs to let them scream and shout because the left are so absorbed by themselves they will overplay their hand. |
yup - still reckon this is a diversion. Cumming's dad called the police to ask about security for DC while he was up there. Suggests they weren't too concerned about this leaking into the public domain.
So the question is -- while we are all getting outraged about this, what aren't we seeing? | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:12 - May 24 with 1021 views | Sadoldgit |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 17:53 - May 24 by JaySaint |
I think that is a fair point. But action now would only be fair if the precedent had already been set when Labour / Other MPs broke the guidance.
Nothing happened then. Yet now it should?
This is nothing but a political witch hunt! |
And yet some people have already resigned for breaking the lockdown rules. |  | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:14 - May 24 with 1012 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:10 - May 24 by cynicalsaint |
yup - still reckon this is a diversion. Cumming's dad called the police to ask about security for DC while he was up there. Suggests they weren't too concerned about this leaking into the public domain.
So the question is -- while we are all getting outraged about this, what aren't we seeing? |
I genuinely don’t think there’s anything to complain about and a lot to be grateful to the government for. | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:19 - May 24 with 1011 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:14 - May 24 by Occasional_Showers |
I genuinely don’t think there’s anything to complain about and a lot to be grateful to the government for. |
Indeed. They're faced with unprecedented challenges and it's easy to chuck rocks at them. I'd just like to see a bit more moral fibre and more leadership. We seem to be perpetually reacting. If they have conviction on the best way out of this then it's undermined by people close to the action contradicting their guidance and an apparent reticence about being on the front foot. | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:27 - May 24 with 989 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:19 - May 24 by cynicalsaint |
Indeed. They're faced with unprecedented challenges and it's easy to chuck rocks at them. I'd just like to see a bit more moral fibre and more leadership. We seem to be perpetually reacting. If they have conviction on the best way out of this then it's undermined by people close to the action contradicting their guidance and an apparent reticence about being on the front foot. |
My only criticism would be that we locked down too early and are coming out too late. I think right now we should be totally reopening and getting the economy going. People would be more careful now and many situations are no different to supermarkets anyway. | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:30 - May 24 with 993 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:27 - May 24 by Occasional_Showers |
My only criticism would be that we locked down too early and are coming out too late. I think right now we should be totally reopening and getting the economy going. People would be more careful now and many situations are no different to supermarkets anyway. |
You could be right.
They seemed to buckle under the weight of public opinion in March and seem to be doing the same thing now.
I'd take conviction, and a corresponding willingness to be accountable for the results, over playing the audience. | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:53 - May 24 with 963 views | Saintsforeverj |
This situation / excuse doesn't make sense.
Why an earth would anyone with coronavirus symptoms, travel to their elderly parents, to possibly pass on the disease to them resulting in their possible death? Cummings would have known that his kids might have been carrying the virus if he and his wife had it, risking the life of his parents!
Should have apologised, been given a warning and move on. Saying he did nothing wrong, will result in an investigation and continued scrutiny as nobody is going to accept that the journey was so vital that he risked his parents' life. [Post edited 24 May 2020 18:55]
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:01 - May 24 with 948 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:53 - May 24 by Saintsforeverj |
This situation / excuse doesn't make sense.
Why an earth would anyone with coronavirus symptoms, travel to their elderly parents, to possibly pass on the disease to them resulting in their possible death? Cummings would have known that his kids might have been carrying the virus if he and his wife had it, risking the life of his parents!
Should have apologised, been given a warning and move on. Saying he did nothing wrong, will result in an investigation and continued scrutiny as nobody is going to accept that the journey was so vital that he risked his parents' life. [Post edited 24 May 2020 18:55]
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...which keeps us focussed on the noise at the expense of...?
Cummings is lots of things but he aint stoopid. He know's what he's doing. | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:06 - May 24 with 932 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 18:53 - May 24 by Saintsforeverj |
This situation / excuse doesn't make sense.
Why an earth would anyone with coronavirus symptoms, travel to their elderly parents, to possibly pass on the disease to them resulting in their possible death? Cummings would have known that his kids might have been carrying the virus if he and his wife had it, risking the life of his parents!
Should have apologised, been given a warning and move on. Saying he did nothing wrong, will result in an investigation and continued scrutiny as nobody is going to accept that the journey was so vital that he risked his parents' life. [Post edited 24 May 2020 18:55]
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The Corbyn puppet is asking for an inquiry. I know we’re throwing money away left right and centre anyway, but what a waste of taxpayers money that would be. And all purely to satisfy remoaner Westminster bubble opportunism. It didn’t take Momentum long to put party politics at the front of their priorities. | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:19 - May 24 with 907 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:06 - May 24 by Occasional_Showers |
The Corbyn puppet is asking for an inquiry. I know we’re throwing money away left right and centre anyway, but what a waste of taxpayers money that would be. And all purely to satisfy remoaner Westminster bubble opportunism. It didn’t take Momentum long to put party politics at the front of their priorities. |
But the point is, if they just apologised, gave him a fine for breach of rules, made a mistake blah blah, problem over.
The excuse about not having anyone to look after the kids, doesn't wash does it when risking the virus on his elderly parents. Saying he didn't do anything wrong and acted with integrity is hardly correct is it: the virus could have been passed onto his elderly parents! Hardly a good move.
This response, will result in further action (and money) that could have been avoided with an apology and a fine.
I don't blame anybody questioning why he took his possibly infected kids to the home of vulnerable elderly people. Would you do that? [Post edited 24 May 2020 19:21]
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:21 - May 24 with 897 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:19 - May 24 by Saintsforeverj |
But the point is, if they just apologised, gave him a fine for breach of rules, made a mistake blah blah, problem over.
The excuse about not having anyone to look after the kids, doesn't wash does it when risking the virus on his elderly parents. Saying he didn't do anything wrong and acted with integrity is hardly correct is it: the virus could have been passed onto his elderly parents! Hardly a good move.
This response, will result in further action (and money) that could have been avoided with an apology and a fine.
I don't blame anybody questioning why he took his possibly infected kids to the home of vulnerable elderly people. Would you do that? [Post edited 24 May 2020 19:21]
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you mean it will create more noise / distraction?
wow - didn't see that coming.
what isn't being discussed...? | | | |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:22 - May 24 with 891 views | Occasional_Showers |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:19 - May 24 by Saintsforeverj |
But the point is, if they just apologised, gave him a fine for breach of rules, made a mistake blah blah, problem over.
The excuse about not having anyone to look after the kids, doesn't wash does it when risking the virus on his elderly parents. Saying he didn't do anything wrong and acted with integrity is hardly correct is it: the virus could have been passed onto his elderly parents! Hardly a good move.
This response, will result in further action (and money) that could have been avoided with an apology and a fine.
I don't blame anybody questioning why he took his possibly infected kids to the home of vulnerable elderly people. Would you do that? [Post edited 24 May 2020 19:21]
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He moved into a separate property which I believe was next to his parents house. At no point did he have any contact with them. Food was left for him at his door. I personally see nothing wrong with what he did. | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:23 - May 24 with 890 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:22 - May 24 by Occasional_Showers |
He moved into a separate property which I believe was next to his parents house. At no point did he have any contact with them. Food was left for him at his door. I personally see nothing wrong with what he did. |
What about the possibly and likely infected kids? | |
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| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:24 - May 24 with 886 views | cynicalsaint |
| Acted responsibly and with integrity on 19:22 - May 24 by Occasional_Showers |
He moved into a separate property which I believe was next to his parents house. At no point did he have any contact with them. Food was left for him at his door. I personally see nothing wrong with what he did. |
yup - as long as the other two sightings are bogus then nothing to see here. move on.
But... what aren't we discussing while we are getting outraged about this? | | | |
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