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We spend too much? 10:24 - Jul 8 with 1864 views

Our team for the play off final:
Green-free
Simpson-free
Dunne-free
Onuoha- 4million (i believe not sure though)
Hill- free
Barton-free
Oneil-free
Hoilett- 4million
Kranjcar-loan
Doyle-loan
Austin-4 million

Bench:
Murphy-free
Traore-free
Ravel-loan
Yun-1 million
Zamora-5 million
Henry- 1 million
Hughes- free

Brings you to a grand total of: 19 million

Fulham spent 11 million on McCormack and 11 million on that striker they brought in in January yet we spent too much ðŸ‘

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We spend too much? on 10:26 - Jul 8 with 1854 views

daveB

in fairness our wage bill is pretty big

We spend too much? on 10:29 - Jul 8 with 1829 views

Juzzie

People only see the salaries.

We got Barton for free but pay him reportedly around £70k a week over 4 years = £14.56m

Southampton spend £11m on a midfielder but 'only' pay him £35k a week and a 3 year contract.
The total amount of that package is £16.46m

Yet we are the big spenders?

OK, it could be said that Soiuthampton could recoup, say, £7m if they sold him but that's not really the point IMO.

We spend too much? on 10:29 - Jul 8 with 1831 views

ozexile

We do spend way too much for the return we get.

We spend too much? on 10:31 - Jul 8 with 1816 views

adhoc_qpr

Agree it's our wage bill that's astronomical, not our transfer fees.

For example, Swansea's top earner is Michu on £30K and we have multiple players on our bench or even in our reserves not playing at all earning more than that...

We spend too much? on 10:32 - Jul 8 with 1810 views

Maggsinho

We spend too much? on 10:31 - Jul 8 by adhoc_qpr
Agree it's our wage bill that's astronomical, not our transfer fees. For example, Swansea's top earner is Michu on £30K and we have multiple players on our bench or even in our reserves not playing at all earning more than that...

If the reports are true then Gomis is on 70/80k there.

We spend too much? on 10:33 - Jul 8 with 1809 views

Tonto

whilst the whole "moneybags QPR" monika is tired and lazy journalism, there is some truth behind it. how much of a loss did we make last year?

Now dont get me wrong - the FFP rules are unworkable. Any team relegated from the Premiership will most likley have large wages, and unless the PFA consent to all contracts having reelgation cluses in them, there isnt a hope in hell of complying.

We may not have spent much in fees, but as Dave B says, our wage bill was excessive. If ever we had a spot of bother it seems like we went out and loaned in another player... was Benny-oon, Miaga or Keane necessary? Although Morrison probably was, it was symptamatic of our approach - person A is injured, lets bring in someone else.

Fulham seem to be adopting our approach.

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We spend too much? on 10:38 - Jul 8 with 1788 views

Northernr

transfer fee wise the only time we really spent silly money was the week we bought samba and remy.

It's wages and length of contracts where we're bloody stupid.

We spend too much? on 10:41 - Jul 8 with 1769 views

Antti_Heinola

We spend too much? on 10:38 - Jul 8 by Northernr
transfer fee wise the only time we really spent silly money was the week we bought samba and remy. It's wages and length of contracts where we're bloody stupid.

Yes and it's a bit disingenuous to list our play off team when we had Granero, Cesar, Park, Mbia, Remy and Taarabt all out on loan - and if anyone thinks their wages are being 100% picked up by their loan clubs, they need a reality check.

Bare bones.

We spend too much? on 10:41 - Jul 8 with 1767 views

simmo

I would be surprised if we didn't have (last season) the top 20 huighest earners in the league.

That's the issue.

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We spend too much? on 12:48 - Jul 8 with 1618 views

whittocksRs

We definitely went overboard on wages in 2011-12 and continue to make stupid loan signings, but everything is relative. Our signings haven't been outlandish, and we did manage to get a large chunk of the wage bill shaved last season through the loans. That doesn't make a good story, though, hence why the newspapers and websites continue to peddle the same tired (and often debunked) lines.

We spend too much? on 13:37 - Jul 8 with 1547 views

dsr_burnley

Just for comparison purposes, here's Burnley's squad:

Heaton - free
Trippier & Mee - £500k combined
Duff - £30k
Shackell - £1m
Marney - £500k
Jones - free
Kightley - loan
Arfield - free
Ings - £1m
Vokes - £500k

Reserves:
Wallace - £1m
Treacey - £750k
Stanislas - £300k
Cisak - free
Lafferty - small fee, say £200k
Long - small fee, say £250k
Edgar - £400k
Stock - £1m
Baird - free

That's our entire first team squad. Total about £7m, and half of that was on overpriced reserves signed when we were still throwing premier league money around. Maximum wage for any player = £10k per week. Total wage bill not released yet, but before promotion bonuses it was budgeted to be about £12m (total, including players, coaches, physios, gatemen, tea ladies, gorundsmen, everyone.)

Yes, last season was a freak season and it'll never happen again. (Probably.) But it shows how you and us were playing in completely different markets last year, and it shows how little reward you got for all the cash you were throwing round. Yes, you got promotion, but it should have been easy, not a scrape-through.

We spend too much? on 13:40 - Jul 8 with 1535 views

whittocksRs

We spend too much? on 13:37 - Jul 8 by dsr_burnley

Yes, well done plucky little Burnley, you're flavour of the month and you'll be loved in the Premier League until you go down on the last day of the season.

We spend too much? on 13:42 - Jul 8 with 1530 views

CroydonCaptJack

We spend too much? on 10:38 - Jul 8 by Northernr
transfer fee wise the only time we really spent silly money was the week we bought samba and remy. It's wages and length of contracts where we're bloody stupid.

Totally this.
I think they took the view that the total cost of the player was probably the same over the length of his contract (i.e amortized transfer fee plus wages as other clubs = wages at QPR) but the trouble with that is if the player doesn't perform you are stuck with him as no-one can match the wages and the player himself will not want to take a drop.

We spend too much? on 13:43 - Jul 8 with 1524 views

adhoc_qpr

We spend too much? on 13:40 - Jul 8 by whittocksRs
Yes, well done plucky little Burnley, you're flavour of the month and you'll be loved in the Premier League until you go down on the last day of the season.

Not to mention refs will feel no compunction at all from giving soft pens and decisions against Burnley because they are only a small club!

We spend too much? on 13:44 - Jul 8 with 1522 views

tooting_hoop

We spend too much? on 13:37 - Jul 8 by dsr_burnley

I suppose the point is that with the two budgets / squads I suspect that Rangers would get promotion 8/10 times and Burnley 1/10 .

Not taking away from Burnley's achievement this year, which was truly remarkable.

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We spend too much? on 13:46 - Jul 8 with 1513 views

whittocksRs

We spend too much? on 13:43 - Jul 8 by adhoc_qpr
Not to mention refs will feel no compunction at all from giving soft pens and decisions against Burnley because they are only a small club!

Pundits will be falling over themselves to call Burnley 'the new Blackpool', and say what a refreshing thing it is to see a well-run club fighting in the Premier League. Then, when they go on a shocking run of form brought on by squad size, penalties awarded to Man Utd at Old Trafford and general tiredness, Alan Shearer will talk about how they didn't spend enough to stay in the division.

We spend too much? on 13:47 - Jul 8 with 1510 views

stevec

We spend too much? on 13:37 - Jul 8 by dsr_burnley

If you check back over the last 10 years, clubs relegated from the PL find going straight back up anything but 'easy'. As for very little reward, promotion was the reward, £120m of it.

That said, fair play to Burnley, Dyche created a very good side and good luck next season. You might need it though when he gets a bigger job.

We spend too much? on 13:51 - Jul 8 with 1494 views

Loft1979

We spend too much? on 10:33 - Jul 8 by Tonto

Is Norwich going to field there first 11 in the championship?

As for the rest of your post...spot on. It reflects the stupidity of the FA and the massive gulf between the 1st and 2nd levels.

we barely got in. BUT we can add Cesar, Remy and Granero to our line up without spending a penny.

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We spend too much? on 13:53 - Jul 8 with 1485 views

CroydonCaptJack

We spend too much? on 13:47 - Jul 8 by stevec
If you check back over the last 10 years, clubs relegated from the PL find going straight back up anything but 'easy'. As for very little reward, promotion was the reward, £120m of it. That said, fair play to Burnley, Dyche created a very good side and good luck next season. You might need it though when he gets a bigger job.

Yes, Dyche will be as vital to their survival as Pullis was to Palace.

We spend too much? on 13:58 - Jul 8 with 1457 views

Juzzie

It doesn't matter how much money clubs spend, three clubs will always go down.

We spend too much? on 14:00 - Jul 8 with 1445 views

dsr_burnley

We spend too much? on 13:46 - Jul 8 by whittocksRs
Pundits will be falling over themselves to call Burnley 'the new Blackpool', and say what a refreshing thing it is to see a well-run club fighting in the Premier League. Then, when they go on a shocking run of form brought on by squad size, penalties awarded to Man Utd at Old Trafford and general tiredness, Alan Shearer will talk about how they didn't spend enough to stay in the division.

Tiredness won't be a problem. Players only get tired if they aren't fit, or if their manager keeps telling them they must be tired. As for dodgy penalties at Old Trafford - that won't be a problem. Chances are we'll lose at Old Trafford with or without penalties. It's the dodgy penalties at Turf Moor that'll kill us.

We spend too much? on 14:16 - Jul 8 with 1396 views

simmo

We spend too much? on 13:44 - Jul 8 by tooting_hoop
I suppose the point is that with the two budgets / squads I suspect that Rangers would get promotion 8/10 times and Burnley 1/10 . Not taking away from Burnley's achievement this year, which was truly remarkable.

This is a good point.

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We spend too much? on 14:21 - Jul 8 with 1375 views

Match82

We spend too much? on 10:38 - Jul 8 by Northernr
transfer fee wise the only time we really spent silly money was the week we bought samba and remy. It's wages and length of contracts where we're bloody stupid.

Ironically we made our money back on Samba and will likely make a profit on Remy.

We spend too much? on 19:44 - Jul 8 with 1213 views

bosh67

We spend too much? on 13:44 - Jul 8 by tooting_hoop
I suppose the point is that with the two budgets / squads I suspect that Rangers would get promotion 8/10 times and Burnley 1/10 . Not taking away from Burnley's achievement this year, which was truly remarkable.

They also had a great manager who knows how to work with whatever he has around. I actually think Burnley will do okay this year.

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