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Holloway hanging by a thread...? 15:42 - Dec 10 with 28694 viewscoolranger

Regardless of the result today at relegation doomed Rotherham (who have not won in 14, always a good time to play QPR), I think I'm watching Holloway on the very edge.

I watched perhaps half a dozen of Holloway interviews over the last month or so. What I see and hear is an endless rambling about 'passion', 'dying for the club' and 'transforming the culture'.

The England FA rant about 'who are ya, I mean who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, who are you, - I mean c'mon on. What on earth was all that about?

Nothing personal against Holloway. He did great last time for us, and remains popular. I just find him far far too desperate, almost incoherent in his enthusiasm.

I reckon we'll lose or perhaps draw today at Rotherham. Then what? His appointment almost smacks of 'we've tried everything else, and that hasn't worked, let's go back to an old friend who knows the club and try him...'.

Just feel increasingly uneasy that this latest experiment may end in tears.

Coolranger/
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 14:22 - Dec 11 with 3030 viewsPinnerPaul

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:43 - Dec 10 by QPR_John

If the four games consist of three defeats and one win where we were hanging on in the last 10 minutes against a team that played the whole game with 10 men then I think we can make a judgement


OK, so we sack IH, and the next manger loses first 3 games, then what sack him and repeat?
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 14:34 - Dec 11 with 3019 viewsDeepcutHoop

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 14:15 - Dec 11 by PinnerPaul

Except it isn't

He's identified we are poor defending oppo throws, he's identified we stop playing if we go one down, he's identified what we are lacking and he knows what players he wants to develop.


Theres been loads of nuggets in his interviews about how he wants to play - not incoherent at all.


It's incoherent if you've already made your mind up that he's incoherent and incompetent. Then you can only hear the bits that fit that mindset.

Facts are irrelevant these days, changing your position is a sign of weakness.

I have the best opinions, other opinions are for the losers and haters. If people are getting angry and infuriated with me, that must mean I'm winnning.
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 15:17 - Dec 11 with 2972 viewsBrightonhoop

Dont feed the trolls.....
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 15:53 - Dec 11 with 2931 viewsphilc

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 15:17 - Dec 11 by Brightonhoop

Dont feed the trolls.....


So when it okay to start questioning Ollies abilities. Why is every criticism being met with accusations of being a troll or not supporting the club. I really do not understand this cult of worshiping on the altar of Holloway where criticism is not allowed.
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:07 - Dec 11 with 2901 views2Thomas2Bowles

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 15:53 - Dec 11 by philc

So when it okay to start questioning Ollies abilities. Why is every criticism being met with accusations of being a troll or not supporting the club. I really do not understand this cult of worshiping on the altar of Holloway where criticism is not allowed.


How about when you come up with a better realistic alternative you can be sure will work.

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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:09 - Dec 11 with 2897 viewsRs_Holy

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 15:53 - Dec 11 by philc

So when it okay to start questioning Ollies abilities. Why is every criticism being met with accusations of being a troll or not supporting the club. I really do not understand this cult of worshiping on the altar of Holloway where criticism is not allowed.


He built a promotion winning team from absolutely nothing at QPR... He took Blackpool to the Prem (yes that's right Blackpool). They were within 1 point of staying in the Prem (yes that's right Blackpool with a maximum wage of 10K a week). He won promotion at Palace.
I know he's had downs as well as ups but to question his ability is misguided IMHO.
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:15 - Dec 11 with 2886 viewsSimonJames

Hopefully Derby's arse kicking of Forest today will leave them too tired to beat us on Wednesday.

100% of people who drink water will die.

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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:36 - Dec 11 with 2842 viewsBrightonhoop

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 15:53 - Dec 11 by philc

So when it okay to start questioning Ollies abilities. Why is every criticism being met with accusations of being a troll or not supporting the club. I really do not understand this cult of worshiping on the altar of Holloway where criticism is not allowed.


I'm not saying Ollie is beyond reproach or criticism, there were a plethora of trolls on last night and they are best not fed. That is all.
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:57 - Dec 11 with 2806 viewsphilc

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:09 - Dec 11 by Rs_Holy

He built a promotion winning team from absolutely nothing at QPR... He took Blackpool to the Prem (yes that's right Blackpool). They were within 1 point of staying in the Prem (yes that's right Blackpool with a maximum wage of 10K a week). He won promotion at Palace.
I know he's had downs as well as ups but to question his ability is misguided IMHO.


We had the biggest budget in the division when he got us promoted second behind Plymouth. Blackpool he did a fantastic job, Palace were top after his second game and only just made the playoffs after a run of no wins in 10.

I don't feel that he is the right man for the job and there's a real danger of us going down. Alternatives I don't know, we decided to twist when we sacked JFH and now we are bust. I accept when cannot keep changing managers but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:08 - Dec 11 with 2786 views2Thomas2Bowles

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:57 - Dec 11 by philc

We had the biggest budget in the division when he got us promoted second behind Plymouth. Blackpool he did a fantastic job, Palace were top after his second game and only just made the playoffs after a run of no wins in 10.

I don't feel that he is the right man for the job and there's a real danger of us going down. Alternatives I don't know, we decided to twist when we sacked JFH and now we are bust. I accept when cannot keep changing managers but it doesn't mean I have to like it.


You don't feel he is the right man, so just going to "not Like it" till ?

You may as well stay away, take up fishing or watch porn, you can always change the porn till you are happy lol

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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:22 - Dec 11 with 2756 viewsDannyPaddox



Oops. Thought this was the 80s thread.

Chooon!
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:26 - Dec 11 with 2740 viewsBluce_Ree

Keep Holloway - shite.

Get rid of Holloway - shite.

Miscallenous - shite.

Curse - real.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:32 - Dec 11 with 2717 viewsdaveB

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 10:21 - Dec 11 by thame_hoops

"Everyone"?

Thats a bit of a sweeping statement, even for you Dave.


wasn't meant to be taken literally.
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:45 - Dec 11 with 2687 viewsPinnerPaul

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 15:53 - Dec 11 by philc

So when it okay to start questioning Ollies abilities. Why is every criticism being met with accusations of being a troll or not supporting the club. I really do not understand this cult of worshiping on the altar of Holloway where criticism is not allowed.


Criticism of results is fine, I'm hardly overjoyed myself, but to say as some on here and on other forums that he's just a walking sound bite who isn't a manager & is "incoherent" is ridiculous - as is calling for ANY manager, let alone ours to go after 4 games!
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:49 - Dec 11 with 2677 viewsDannyPaddox

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:26 - Dec 11 by Bluce_Ree

Keep Holloway - shite.

Get rid of Holloway - shite.

Miscallenous - shite.

Curse - real.




We could always salvage a decent Hammer Horror out of all this. Working title (simple but effective): 'Curse of the Queens Park Rangers'
[Post edited 11 Dec 2016 17:53]
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 18:15 - Dec 11 with 2633 viewsphilc

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 17:08 - Dec 11 by 2Thomas2Bowles

You don't feel he is the right man, so just going to "not Like it" till ?

You may as well stay away, take up fishing or watch porn, you can always change the porn till you are happy lol


That's the whole point of my argument. Instead of thought out rational points to support your opinion, make personal put downs and finish with the old standby of support someone else.
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 18:28 - Dec 11 with 2613 views2Thomas2Bowles

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 18:15 - Dec 11 by philc

That's the whole point of my argument. Instead of thought out rational points to support your opinion, make personal put downs and finish with the old standby of support someone else.


Just whinging that you think he is not the right man and will keep on. not liking it. gets you that responce.

When you come up with sensible solutions I'm happy to debate them.

Go on give it a try with your thought out rational points ?
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 18:44 - Dec 11 with 2584 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 16:15 - Dec 11 by SimonJames

Hopefully Derby's arse kicking of Forest today will leave them too tired to beat us on Wednesday.


And hopefully Villa score so many in their next fixture they become sick of goals, they deliberately miss against us 😂
[Post edited 11 Dec 2016 18:45]
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 20:46 - Dec 11 with 2475 viewsQPR_John

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 14:22 - Dec 11 by PinnerPaul

OK, so we sack IH, and the next manger loses first 3 games, then what sack him and repeat?


No but the point is considering how the last four games played out it is fair to make a judgement that currently things are not going too well
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 20:57 - Dec 11 with 2452 views2Thomas2Bowles

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 20:46 - Dec 11 by QPR_John

No but the point is considering how the last four games played out it is fair to make a judgement that currently things are not going too well


no sh it sherlock
And ?

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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 20:59 - Dec 11 with 2444 viewsRangersw12

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 20:46 - Dec 11 by QPR_John

No but the point is considering how the last four games played out it is fair to make a judgement that currently things are not going too well


It hasn't gone well at all bar the Norwich game but we never get a manager bounce or haven't for the last 3/4 appointments maybe we should be thinking why that is ?
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 21:02 - Dec 11 with 2439 viewsQPR_John

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 20:57 - Dec 11 by 2Thomas2Bowles

no sh it sherlock
And ?


I was trying not to be too provocative
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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 21:12 - Dec 11 with 2410 viewsconnell10

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 21:02 - Dec 11 by QPR_John

I was trying not to be too provocative


AND?

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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 22:20 - Dec 11 with 2323 views2Thomas2Bowles

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 21:12 - Dec 11 by connell10

AND?


Exactly

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Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 22:34 - Dec 11 with 2301 viewsWesty75

Holloway hanging by a thread...? on 09:22 - Dec 11 by daveB

Brilliant stuff here, 3 and a half games in and the calls for the manager go begin. Well done everyone, you've exceeded yourself this time


I think they might need to get a few other interests going. I find having something else in your life besides Rangers works wonders...
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