| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House 20:44 - Feb 17 with 14073 views | RAFCBLUE |
A question tonight from the floor was about a company called Village Energy Solutions Limited and their financial links to Morton House.
I was a bit of a way away so I didn't hear the exact question but a quick Google gives this:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-of-pounds-of-unexplained-payments-le
The Official Receiver was appointed liquidator and as part of their duties, initiated an investigation into Donna Nada’s conduct and the reasons why Village Energy Solutions failed.
Enquiries uncovered that the company was originally incorporated as providing real estate and management consultant services and in its first 9 months had three different names — Rasdale Solutions Ltd, Caffe Concerto Payroll Services Ltd and Concerto Payroll Services Ltd — before settling on Village Energy Solutions.
In interviews, Donna Nada, from Ilford, Essex informed the Official Receiver that the company traded from premises in North West London and provided payroll and HR services.
But due to Donna Nada’s failure to ensure Village Energy Solutions Limited maintained and/or preserved adequate accounting records or provide any form of records to the liquidator, it was not possible to verify the true nature of £2.3 million of income and whether this accounted for all the company’s sales and income.
Donna Nada’s misconduct also meant it was not possible to determine the legitimacy of at least £1.8 million worth of payments out of the company’s bank accounts.
ESSEX PAYROLL COMPANY? Where have we heard that before?
It's made the Ilford Recorder here:
https://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime/director-ban-for-village-energy-solu
A QUICK CHECK AT COMPANIES HOUSE GIVES THIS:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11215024
In April 2019, a company called Morton House Business and Corporate Services Ltd bought an 80% stake in the Village Energy Solutions Limited
The person who did the buying of the 80% for MORTON HOUSE was:
DENISE VALARIE COURTNELL
In January 2020, the High Court ordered the winding up of Village Energy Solutions Limited at the request of HM Revenue and Customs
HMRC HAVE AN ESSEX PAYROLL COMPANY WOUND UP
In March 2020, Morton House Business and Corporate Services Limited then change its name to Morton House MGT and First Form Construction Limited.
The Government Article states:
"Donna Nada’s misconduct also meant it was not possible to determine the legitimacy of at least £1.8 million worth of payments out of the company’s bank accounts."
I'm no expert but how does Morton House manage to own 80% of a payroll company, which is wound up by the Official Receiver and fails to know where it put £1.8m!
Fast forward to July 2021 and over £1.0m according to Alexander Jarvis turned up from nowhere to be paid for shares for a hostile takeover that no one knew about or wanted.
That's got to be the best Fans Forum question since the one from about Barry-Murphy's contract which outed Bottomley when Graham Rawlinson gave a factually correct answer!
It's also got to raise MASSIVE questions for HMRC about the current Morton House Mgt and their payroll operations under Faical Safouane and Denise Courtnell. |  |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 22:08 - Feb 17 with 7560 views | judd |
The beauty of Companies House is how easy it is to trace and link these individuals to a common trait of nil net worth and ease of dissolution.
The constant change in persons of signifant control.
Finally, a link to unexplained income v unexplained outgoings whilst linking Morton House share ownership
at pathetic companies with no legitimate entity.
The investment asset on MHs last balance sheet seemingly coinciding with this company's inexplicable cash outgoing? |  |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 22:10 - Feb 17 with 7527 views | RAFCBLUE |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 22:08 - Feb 17 by judd |
The beauty of Companies House is how easy it is to trace and link these individuals to a common trait of nil net worth and ease of dissolution.
The constant change in persons of signifant control.
Finally, a link to unexplained income v unexplained outgoings whilst linking Morton House share ownership
at pathetic companies with no legitimate entity.
The investment asset on MHs last balance sheet seemingly coinciding with this company's inexplicable cash outgoing? |
The winding up petition for Village Energy Solutions Limited was from HMRC!
HMRC winding up one payroll company that is 80% owned by a second payroll company!
The link that follows is for any citizen who would like to report a concern about tax evasion:
https://www.gov.uk/report-an-unregistered-trader-or-business | |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 07:16 - Feb 18 with 6869 views | RAFCBLUE |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 23:56 - Feb 17 by Sandyman |
Faical, Denise Valarie, Matthew, Andrew, Darrell, maybe even Alexander and Roger...
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That's a very unusual way to wish people in business GOOD MORNING
The thing that strikes me with Village Energy is that the authorities now appear to be all over this web of companies that includes Morton House, Mark Farrugia, Denise Courtnell, Andy Curran and others.
How it all fits together, goodness only knows but if the last week we have had:
HMRC seizing NFTs for the first time
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/14/hmrc-seizes-nfts-for-first-ti
Morton House subsidiary can't explain £1.8m of payments
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-of-pounds-of-unexplained-payments-le
It is almost like since Morton House filed their action against a supporters trust and unpaid volunteers at the end of January 2022, that the relevant authorities have woken up a bit and started to properly scrutinise goings on.
WIthin those government organisations you will have some football fans and we know that the whole football community has united behind our plight as the test case for fan owned club. The online only element of the crowdfund is now at £24k.
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/keep-rochdale-afc-fan-owned/
It will be interesting to see developments over the next few months; High Court cases typically take ages (Rachel Vardy and Coleen Rooney kicked off in 2019 and is only reaching court now in 2022)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10099487/rebekah-vardy-coleen-rooney-twitt
It's a good job that they all secured their IT and didn't leave it in the hands of Captain Sabotage otherwise who might know what will get out. | |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 10:04 - Feb 18 with 6646 views | wozzrafc |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 07:16 - Feb 18 by RAFCBLUE |
That's a very unusual way to wish people in business GOOD MORNING
The thing that strikes me with Village Energy is that the authorities now appear to be all over this web of companies that includes Morton House, Mark Farrugia, Denise Courtnell, Andy Curran and others.
How it all fits together, goodness only knows but if the last week we have had:
HMRC seizing NFTs for the first time
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/14/hmrc-seizes-nfts-for-first-ti
Morton House subsidiary can't explain £1.8m of payments
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-of-pounds-of-unexplained-payments-le
It is almost like since Morton House filed their action against a supporters trust and unpaid volunteers at the end of January 2022, that the relevant authorities have woken up a bit and started to properly scrutinise goings on.
WIthin those government organisations you will have some football fans and we know that the whole football community has united behind our plight as the test case for fan owned club. The online only element of the crowdfund is now at £24k.
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/keep-rochdale-afc-fan-owned/
It will be interesting to see developments over the next few months; High Court cases typically take ages (Rachel Vardy and Coleen Rooney kicked off in 2019 and is only reaching court now in 2022)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10099487/rebekah-vardy-coleen-rooney-twitt
It's a good job that they all secured their IT and didn't leave it in the hands of Captain Sabotage otherwise who might know what will get out. |
You would hope that this would be being followed up with the HMRC speaking to football club / EFL to assess what information/dealings they have had with Morton House given the links they have with village energy solutions as RAFCBLUE has highlighted.
Hopefully they have pushed through the open door and looked a bit deeper to see if there is a possible link. As this article from the insolvency service points out there are still millions of pounds unaccounted for….
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-of-pounds-of-unexplained-payments-le [Post edited 18 Feb 2022 10:22]
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 12:02 - Feb 18 with 6426 views | judd |
Mr Farrugia and Morton House were shareholders in RTU HR Ltd, now ceased trading.
Morton House held shares in this company between 15th April and 10th July 2019.
Morton House held shares in Village Energy Solutions (a payroll company that does not sound like a payroll company established February 2018 and had 4 different names before incurring the wrath of HMRC in December 2019) between 15th April and 10th July 2019. | |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 12:08 - Feb 18 with 6399 views | 49thseason |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 12:02 - Feb 18 by judd |
Mr Farrugia and Morton House were shareholders in RTU HR Ltd, now ceased trading.
Morton House held shares in this company between 15th April and 10th July 2019.
Morton House held shares in Village Energy Solutions (a payroll company that does not sound like a payroll company established February 2018 and had 4 different names before incurring the wrath of HMRC in December 2019) between 15th April and 10th July 2019. |
In out in out shake it all about.....You do the hokey cokey.... |  | | |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 15:45 - Feb 18 with 6097 views | NorthernDale |
Am I being cynical in suspecting some form of doggy dealings with these companies and directors. If I was being very suspicious in the HMRC sense, I would suspect potential questionable activities, in that Nada could not provide data in respect to the source of the income or the outgoings, which raises a red flag for me.
This company, Morton House with apparently no employees, but sudden influx of money at the time of the attempted takeover, with debts virtually equal to the sudden influx, which is hopefully made the HMRC ask questions. The Sahara business as mentioned at the forum, which may or may not exist, which may be legal or not, to be honest I am not 100% sure.
One thing is sure the same names appear, time and time again in all the businesses, people Denise, Nada, Farrugia and many others are associated with, is this just a coincidence of unlucky business people in the number of dissolve companies they are associated with? [Post edited 18 Feb 2022 17:57]
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 17:39 - Feb 18 with 5934 views | James1980 |
Are the Sacco's a Red Herring should I stop thinking about the Sacco's? | |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 18:44 - Feb 18 with 5811 views | JumeirahDale |
Looks like Andy Curran is finally going to get his wish of going somewhere where disputes are resolved with fists.
Such a shame innit. |  | | |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 19:43 - Feb 18 with 5681 views | jonahwhereru |
I know some have been critical of the EFL speed of reaction to what’s going on with this crew. But to be fair there is a minefield of stuff to plough through. Can imagine at EFL HQ there is a cork board about 8ft square with dozens of pins with bit of string passing between a host of companies, football clubs and dodgy individuals with either real or possibly made up names. Certainly some of them seem to struggle to spell their own name correctly. Have to admit these tw-ts must have something about them to be able to keep up with all their own dealings.
It’s like the three cups and a ball trick, trying to workout which cup the money is under (if there is any real money at all of course). Then there must be of course because some of it is sat under Altman and co’s cups.
This is forensic financial investigator stuff. | | | |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 19:56 - Feb 18 with 5624 views | D_Alien |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 19:43 - Feb 18 by jonahwhereru |
I know some have been critical of the EFL speed of reaction to what’s going on with this crew. But to be fair there is a minefield of stuff to plough through. Can imagine at EFL HQ there is a cork board about 8ft square with dozens of pins with bit of string passing between a host of companies, football clubs and dodgy individuals with either real or possibly made up names. Certainly some of them seem to struggle to spell their own name correctly. Have to admit these tw-ts must have something about them to be able to keep up with all their own dealings.
It’s like the three cups and a ball trick, trying to workout which cup the money is under (if there is any real money at all of course). Then there must be of course because some of it is sat under Altman and co’s cups.
This is forensic financial investigator stuff. |
Let's get this straight
What you've described isn't the role of the EFL, i.e. investigating all the financial dealings of the various parties involved. It's much more simple than that
The EFL have a set of rules which, if breached, prevents those involved from ownership (or directorship) of clubs within their remit
It's been demonstrated ad nauseam that those involved in the hostile attempted takeover of Dale are in breach of those rules; already and without equivocation
The EFL is hiding behind the very smokescreen created by the shysters. The EFL is not fit for purpose
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:03 - Feb 18 with 5584 views | DorkingDale |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 18:44 - Feb 18 by JumeirahDale |
Looks like Andy Curran is finally going to get his wish of going somewhere where disputes are resolved with fists.
Such a shame innit. |
I wish. The retribution doled out to Dona Nada wouldn't suggest so. | | | |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:07 - Feb 18 with 5557 views | DorkingDale |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 19:56 - Feb 18 by D_Alien |
Let's get this straight
What you've described isn't the role of the EFL, i.e. investigating all the financial dealings of the various parties involved. It's much more simple than that
The EFL have a set of rules which, if breached, prevents those involved from ownership (or directorship) of clubs within their remit
It's been demonstrated ad nauseam that those involved in the hostile attempted takeover of Dale are in breach of those rules; already and without equivocation
The EFL is hiding behind the very smokescreen created by the shysters. The EFL is not fit for purpose
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Absolutely - the EFL have no jurisdiction over these financial dealings. They have a clear mandate - to decide who is a fit & proper person to own more than 30% of an EFL club. | | | |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:08 - Feb 18 with 5547 views | jonahwhereru |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 19:56 - Feb 18 by D_Alien |
Let's get this straight
What you've described isn't the role of the EFL, i.e. investigating all the financial dealings of the various parties involved. It's much more simple than that
The EFL have a set of rules which, if breached, prevents those involved from ownership (or directorship) of clubs within their remit
It's been demonstrated ad nauseam that those involved in the hostile attempted takeover of Dale are in breach of those rules; already and without equivocation
The EFL is hiding behind the very smokescreen created by the shysters. The EFL is not fit for purpose
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Have marked this up as I agree with every word.
To future proof and new dodgy deals it would still be appropriate for them to try and get a decent handle on all the dodgy characters involved in these murky dealings. At the same time they could make their fit and proper persons test actually fit and proper, for a start, but have reservations about how much stomach the have to make sweeping changes.
I reckon Parry expected to swim in calmer waters in the EFL, but it’s cutting up a bit rough. | | | |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:13 - Feb 18 with 5515 views | RAFCBLUE |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 19:56 - Feb 18 by D_Alien |
Let's get this straight
What you've described isn't the role of the EFL, i.e. investigating all the financial dealings of the various parties involved. It's much more simple than that
The EFL have a set of rules which, if breached, prevents those involved from ownership (or directorship) of clubs within their remit
It's been demonstrated ad nauseam that those involved in the hostile attempted takeover of Dale are in breach of those rules; already and without equivocation
The EFL is hiding behind the very smokescreen created by the shysters. The EFL is not fit for purpose
[Post edited 18 Feb 2022 20:00]
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The thing is DA, we as supporters are just going to have to keep posting all of this information so that it is given the light of day.
With facts, links, figures, dates, times, sightings, phone numbers, emails and anything else we get our hands on.
What sort of people sue the fans of an EFL club in the High Court?
Arrogant and unprepared t*ssers who have no respect for football or the football family.
Why can't the EFL see what is clearly visible? | |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:22 - Feb 18 with 5482 views | DorkingDale |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:13 - Feb 18 by RAFCBLUE |
The thing is DA, we as supporters are just going to have to keep posting all of this information so that it is given the light of day.
With facts, links, figures, dates, times, sightings, phone numbers, emails and anything else we get our hands on.
What sort of people sue the fans of an EFL club in the High Court?
Arrogant and unprepared t*ssers who have no respect for football or the football family.
Why can't the EFL see what is clearly visible? |
I think they know very well - but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Hopefully there are several Government agencies involved & they may well have consulted with the EFL. There is a very plausible scenario that the EFl have their hands tied until those investigations are completed. | | | |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:42 - Feb 18 with 5438 views | D_Alien |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:22 - Feb 18 by DorkingDale |
I think they know very well - but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Hopefully there are several Government agencies involved & they may well have consulted with the EFL. There is a very plausible scenario that the EFl have their hands tied until those investigations are completed. |
It is plausible, but simply confirms that the EFL aren't fit for purpose
The legislative outcome of the Tracy Crouch review (see the Fair Game website for more details) is the key to putting this and future attempts at hostile takeover to bed
There's a petition to sign and it's planned that the first week in April will see a big publicity campaign to ensure the review gets the proper attention it deserves in parliament
We play Swindon at home on Saturday, 2 April. Both clubs have had their ability to function hamstrung by those seeking to gain ownership for their own financial ends, so it'd be a great opportunity to push this and attract as much media attention as possible | |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:54 - Feb 18 with 5398 views | judd |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 20:08 - Feb 18 by jonahwhereru |
Have marked this up as I agree with every word.
To future proof and new dodgy deals it would still be appropriate for them to try and get a decent handle on all the dodgy characters involved in these murky dealings. At the same time they could make their fit and proper persons test actually fit and proper, for a start, but have reservations about how much stomach the have to make sweeping changes.
I reckon Parry expected to swim in calmer waters in the EFL, but it’s cutting up a bit rough. |
The OADT has been evolving since 2004 in response to events after the fact.
Until they come out on our side I would caution against any vitriolic comments toward them.
I think they will. | |
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| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 21:07 - Feb 18 with 5368 views | SuddenLad |
| The Fans Forum question about Village Energy Solutions and Morton House on 19:43 - Feb 18 by jonahwhereru |
I know some have been critical of the EFL speed of reaction to what’s going on with this crew. But to be fair there is a minefield of stuff to plough through. Can imagine at EFL HQ there is a cork board about 8ft square with dozens of pins with bit of string passing between a host of companies, football clubs and dodgy individuals with either real or possibly made up names. Certainly some of them seem to struggle to spell their own name correctly. Have to admit these tw-ts must have something about them to be able to keep up with all their own dealings.
It’s like the three cups and a ball trick, trying to workout which cup the money is under (if there is any real money at all of course). Then there must be of course because some of it is sat under Altman and co’s cups.
This is forensic financial investigator stuff. |
I would like to think that the pinboard/whiteboard scenario is being replicated in the offices of the Serious Fraud Office and the HMRC investigations teams.
There is enough material and evidence being produced on these boards for a competent barrister to have an absolute field day with these clowns.
Quite how they imagine they can evade the inevitable end game is a mystery and their arrogance - or stupidity - is breathtaking.
Whilst I share much of the frustration concerning the apparent impotence of the EFL, I have come round to the idea that they are perhaps waiting for the outcome of other investigations so that they can use those verdicts/decisions to effectively do their job for them in that they will be able to prove, legally, that these people are entirely unfit be be involved with football at any level.
That day can't come soon enough. |  |
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