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RMT 18:54 - Jun 15 with 16430 viewsCountyJim

Good on you lads power to the people power to the Unions

They asked the government to sit down and talk but oh no I expect Boris having another party
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RMT on 11:20 - Jun 16 with 1446 viewspencoedjack

RMT on 10:44 - Jun 16 by Whiterockin

It doesn't really matter which of the big two are in power Cardiff will always have more than their fair share. IMO the only way to change this is Plaid, but I wouldn't vote for them until they drop the indepence agenda.


I agree.

Plaid would get my vote if they dropped the independence agenda & agreed to no more power being passed from Westminster.

Id like to think they'd look after the whole of Wales.
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RMT on 11:25 - Jun 16 with 1439 viewsbuilthjack

A percentage increase will always give the high earners a bigger increase. The lower earners always lose out. Every year the gap widens.
That's not right.

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RMT on 11:26 - Jun 16 with 1436 viewsCountyJim

RMT on 11:20 - Jun 16 by pencoedjack

I agree.

Plaid would get my vote if they dropped the independence agenda & agreed to no more power being passed from Westminster.

Id like to think they'd look after the whole of Wales.


I'd hazard a guess that London takes a fair bit from the English budget

Be handy to have a look at spending per head of population on town/city basis in Wales because kardiff has the biggest population doesn't it
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RMT on 11:57 - Jun 16 with 1412 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

RMT on 11:26 - Jun 16 by CountyJim

I'd hazard a guess that London takes a fair bit from the English budget

Be handy to have a look at spending per head of population on town/city basis in Wales because kardiff has the biggest population doesn't it


Jim, national and regional spend in UK.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c

Population of Wales by Region
https://www.statista.com/statistics/971295/regional-population-wales/

What is more difficult to find is investment by region in Wales.
[Post edited 16 Jun 2022 12:58]

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RMT on 13:17 - Jun 16 with 1363 viewsLorax

RMT on 11:57 - Jun 16 by JACKMANANDBOY

Jim, national and regional spend in UK.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c

Population of Wales by Region
https://www.statista.com/statistics/971295/regional-population-wales/

What is more difficult to find is investment by region in Wales.
[Post edited 16 Jun 2022 12:58]


Several years back the Walesonline had a story about Welsh spending, basically for every ONE pound spent on Swansea, SEVEN were spent in Cardiff.

Maybe the Welsh regional spend is hard to find because the Senedd don't want the rest of Wales to see in black and white just how much they are being taken for mugs?

Many times I have pointed out that Wales has more money per head spend than anywhere in England besides London but we are still well behind Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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RMT on 14:08 - Jun 16 with 1352 viewsTreforys_Jack

RMT on 09:10 - Jun 16 by Lorax

I strongly believe in unions, I was a CWU rep myself once. This strike though, looking at the wages they are on and taking into account the prices people pay on trains for the services they get, quite frankly it's ridiculous.

Then compare their wages to other other jobs, jobs we can possibly agree are more worthy of more money but who get les than the average RMT worker and it looks even sillier.

Though I am all for unions I am not all for strike action, it is often a self defeating strategy and I knew plenty who were happy to strike but not happy to stand on the picket line, they'd rather just take the day off and go do "better things" with their time.

The problem to me is, the bosses get big pay packets and think they deserve more (which they usually get) but they never think the people on the front line deserve more. These bosses often come up with stupid ideas that don't work and the whole company can go around in circles and end up back doing what was originally in place, I saw/have seen that happen in my workplaces.

For an example, a very well known national company spent millions rebranding itself as "Consignia" only, a couple of years later to realise it was a big mistake, the original name was still better known worldwide and they ditched all the Consignia branded stuff and went back to the original name. Does anyone remember that, without googling it?


We obviously work or worked for the same company probably in the same rather large building.
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RMT on 14:17 - Jun 16 with 1339 viewsCountyJim

RMT on 14:08 - Jun 16 by Treforys_Jack

We obviously work or worked for the same company probably in the same rather large building.


I was in communication union in 80s when I was a post man brilliant union and good strike pay management always caved in few days strike then made a good packet on ot clearing the backlog
Our Rep even had whistle round his neck if management upset anyone 🤣🤣 another two three days on pickit duties
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RMT on 15:39 - Jun 16 with 1314 viewspencoedjack

RMT on 14:17 - Jun 16 by CountyJim

I was in communication union in 80s when I was a post man brilliant union and good strike pay management always caved in few days strike then made a good packet on ot clearing the backlog
Our Rep even had whistle round his neck if management upset anyone 🤣🤣 another two three days on pickit duties


You optimize a person who has worked in public bodies most of his life.

You wouldn't last 5 minutes working for me or any decent manager in the private sector.

What you say about that union rep is why good hard working people have no time for them.
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RMT on 15:54 - Jun 16 with 1298 viewsBoundy

RMT on 11:20 - Jun 16 by pencoedjack

I agree.

Plaid would get my vote if they dropped the independence agenda & agreed to no more power being passed from Westminster.

Id like to think they'd look after the whole of Wales.


ATM a vote for Plaid is a vote for labour ,Plaid have been losing support at a rate of knots ,similar to the Lib Dens useless on the own hence their principles have disappeared once the sniff of power sharing was put on the table

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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RMT on 15:59 - Jun 16 with 1295 viewspencoedjack

RMT on 15:54 - Jun 16 by Boundy

ATM a vote for Plaid is a vote for labour ,Plaid have been losing support at a rate of knots ,similar to the Lib Dens useless on the own hence their principles have disappeared once the sniff of power sharing was put on the table


I'm aware of that hence why I wont vote for them.

Id like to think a Plaid in power in the Senedd (not as part of a coalition) would do what is best for the whole of Wales & look at attracting business by improving infrastructure & being more forward thinking.

In reality they'd probably be as shite as Labour but its a nice thought.
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RMT on 16:26 - Jun 16 with 1284 viewsCountyJim

RMT on 15:39 - Jun 16 by pencoedjack

You optimize a person who has worked in public bodies most of his life.

You wouldn't last 5 minutes working for me or any decent manager in the private sector.

What you say about that union rep is why good hard working people have no time for them.


Worked in steel industry for 29 years try and work on a Coke oven battery top in middle of summer it's worst job in the world
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RMT on 16:53 - Jun 16 with 1268 viewsTreforys_Jack

RMT on 15:59 - Jun 16 by pencoedjack

I'm aware of that hence why I wont vote for them.

Id like to think a Plaid in power in the Senedd (not as part of a coalition) would do what is best for the whole of Wales & look at attracting business by improving infrastructure & being more forward thinking.

In reality they'd probably be as shite as Labour but its a nice thought.


It's a real dilemma mate.
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RMT on 17:43 - Jun 16 with 1239 viewsonehunglow

RMT on 21:12 - Jun 15 by KeithHaynes

Class war stopped in 84 for me mate.


Yes,but you have a brain and know what it’s about,
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RMT on 17:46 - Jun 16 with 1238 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

RMT on 13:17 - Jun 16 by Lorax

Several years back the Walesonline had a story about Welsh spending, basically for every ONE pound spent on Swansea, SEVEN were spent in Cardiff.

Maybe the Welsh regional spend is hard to find because the Senedd don't want the rest of Wales to see in black and white just how much they are being taken for mugs?

Many times I have pointed out that Wales has more money per head spend than anywhere in England besides London but we are still well behind Scotland and Northern Ireland.


Time for a freedom on information request. I'll let you know what we get.

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RMT on 18:17 - Jun 16 with 1228 viewsFlashberryjack

RMT on 09:10 - Jun 16 by Lorax

I strongly believe in unions, I was a CWU rep myself once. This strike though, looking at the wages they are on and taking into account the prices people pay on trains for the services they get, quite frankly it's ridiculous.

Then compare their wages to other other jobs, jobs we can possibly agree are more worthy of more money but who get les than the average RMT worker and it looks even sillier.

Though I am all for unions I am not all for strike action, it is often a self defeating strategy and I knew plenty who were happy to strike but not happy to stand on the picket line, they'd rather just take the day off and go do "better things" with their time.

The problem to me is, the bosses get big pay packets and think they deserve more (which they usually get) but they never think the people on the front line deserve more. These bosses often come up with stupid ideas that don't work and the whole company can go around in circles and end up back doing what was originally in place, I saw/have seen that happen in my workplaces.

For an example, a very well known national company spent millions rebranding itself as "Consignia" only, a couple of years later to realise it was a big mistake, the original name was still better known worldwide and they ditched all the Consignia branded stuff and went back to the original name. Does anyone remember that, without googling it?


Adam Crozier, what a plonker he was, apart from the rebranding fiasco.

I was told from a very good source a while ago, that he had the same strategy for every major board meeting "increase the price for stamps".

At his last meeting, he recommended that (yes you guessed it) increase the price of stamps, but on this occasion one of the directors challenged him, saying "but if we continue to increase the price of stamps, and with emails being so popular, in 2 years time we will have no customers using the mail service.

Crozier replied "but I won't be here in 2 years time"

He left with a big fat golden hand shake for making the Royal mail profitable, that's what's called "short term thinking, short term profit management" the guy was an utter c*nt.

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RMT on 18:20 - Jun 16 with 1226 viewsfelixstowe_jack

RMT on 09:16 - Jun 16 by JACKMANANDBOY

Average NHS worker is about £27K a year and average rail worker £47K.

I agree it is difficult to compare like for like, but rail is a better paid sector.


Makes you wonder why Labour does not condemn the RMT. The strike will prevent millions of working class people ftom getting to work and earning money to survive.

Maybe it is because the RMT pays/sponsors 6 of Labour's front bench.

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RMT on 19:22 - Jun 16 with 1205 viewsjack_lord

RMT on 18:20 - Jun 16 by felixstowe_jack

Makes you wonder why Labour does not condemn the RMT. The strike will prevent millions of working class people ftom getting to work and earning money to survive.

Maybe it is because the RMT pays/sponsors 6 of Labour's front bench.


Do you ever have a day off from Labour bashing?
It makes you look petty.

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RMT on 19:25 - Jun 16 with 1202 viewsDr_Winston

RMT on 13:17 - Jun 16 by Lorax

Several years back the Walesonline had a story about Welsh spending, basically for every ONE pound spent on Swansea, SEVEN were spent in Cardiff.

Maybe the Welsh regional spend is hard to find because the Senedd don't want the rest of Wales to see in black and white just how much they are being taken for mugs?

Many times I have pointed out that Wales has more money per head spend than anywhere in England besides London but we are still well behind Scotland and Northern Ireland.


I would imagine that the cost of purchase and subsidy for the airport alone compare favourably to what has been spent on Swansea. The Millennium Centre has had tens of millions gubbed away on it too.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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RMT on 19:38 - Jun 16 with 1190 viewsjack_lord

RMT on 19:25 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston

I would imagine that the cost of purchase and subsidy for the airport alone compare favourably to what has been spent on Swansea. The Millennium Centre has had tens of millions gubbed away on it too.


I would suggest that we have a thread just for showing how badly money is distributed in Wales.
Devolution is great in theory but it's just another bad level of decision making by people who shouldn't be making decisions.
I would get rid of the assembly tomorrow if I could.
The RMT, however, need to get a grip and look at what people earn elsewhere. At least it isn't a public servant that is taking money from central coffers though.

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RMT on 19:47 - Jun 16 with 1177 viewsjohnlangy

RMT on 15:59 - Jun 16 by pencoedjack

I'm aware of that hence why I wont vote for them.

Id like to think a Plaid in power in the Senedd (not as part of a coalition) would do what is best for the whole of Wales & look at attracting business by improving infrastructure & being more forward thinking.

In reality they'd probably be as shite as Labour but its a nice thought.


But what is it that you want ? (i'm talking to posters in general now not just you pencoed).

Everyone slags off Labour (including me many times in the past) for running Wales as a mini UK ie ploughing excessive amounts of money into Cardiff and the South East while letting the rest of Wales rot.

So if not Labour then who ? Would you all vote Conservative ? I think it's fair to say that Wales will never be a Conservative country. And IMO they would be even less likely than Labour to spread spending fairly around Wales.

So that leaves Plaid as the only other party potentially big enough to run the Senedd. We wouldn't know whether they'd be better than Labour until they were given power but there's no point in just slagging off Labour without deciding on an alternative.

It's either change or accept Labour forever.
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RMT on 20:02 - Jun 16 with 1169 viewsBoundy

RMT on 19:22 - Jun 16 by jack_lord

Do you ever have a day off from Labour bashing?
It makes you look petty.


Is he correct ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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RMT on 20:14 - Jun 16 with 1164 viewsraynor94

RMT on 19:22 - Jun 16 by jack_lord

Do you ever have a day off from Labour bashing?
It makes you look petty.


He's right though

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RMT on 20:16 - Jun 16 with 1163 viewsjack_lord

RMT on 20:02 - Jun 16 by Boundy

Is he correct ?


That is subjective.

I have my own views and while I detest a lot of what the Conservative party are I don't spend my life knocking the self serving selfish money grabbing brown nosing tory boys in every other post though.

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RMT on 20:29 - Jun 16 with 1156 viewspencoedjack

RMT on 19:47 - Jun 16 by johnlangy

But what is it that you want ? (i'm talking to posters in general now not just you pencoed).

Everyone slags off Labour (including me many times in the past) for running Wales as a mini UK ie ploughing excessive amounts of money into Cardiff and the South East while letting the rest of Wales rot.

So if not Labour then who ? Would you all vote Conservative ? I think it's fair to say that Wales will never be a Conservative country. And IMO they would be even less likely than Labour to spread spending fairly around Wales.

So that leaves Plaid as the only other party potentially big enough to run the Senedd. We wouldn't know whether they'd be better than Labour until they were given power but there's no point in just slagging off Labour without deciding on an alternative.

It's either change or accept Labour forever.


I voted Tory last time as did the majority of Bridgend & if there was an election tomorrow I would do so again ( previously I’d voted Labour all my life).

It’s a dilemma I’m at at age where I’m pretty finically secure but want what’s best for my kids & grandkids.

I see so much opportunity for Wales & feel frustrated we have someone like Drakeford at the helm.

I really couldn’t give a toss about a few glasses of wine/beer by any political party during lockdown I just want a party to drive the country forward.

I live in hope.
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RMT on 20:55 - Jun 16 with 1139 viewsonehunglow

RMT on 20:29 - Jun 16 by pencoedjack

I voted Tory last time as did the majority of Bridgend & if there was an election tomorrow I would do so again ( previously I’d voted Labour all my life).

It’s a dilemma I’m at at age where I’m pretty finically secure but want what’s best for my kids & grandkids.

I see so much opportunity for Wales & feel frustrated we have someone like Drakeford at the helm.

I really couldn’t give a toss about a few glasses of wine/beer by any political party during lockdown I just want a party to drive the country forward.

I live in hope.


Well done.
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