| Attendance Saturday 13:41 - Sep 21 with 4720 views | Dalenet |
I thoroughly enjoyed the match on Saturday, and driving home after a good win always feels special. I thought the club organised the day well, offering Oldham the mandatory 20% of tickets. and the stewarding and policing around the ground were the best I can remember for an Owdum derby. We know they have form. Restricting the Willbutts stand to the mandatory minimum is the right way forward.
I was intrigued by the attendance. Officially announced as 6121, of which 1880 were from Oldham. So that means we had 4241 home fans. Which for us, and the recent form we have been in, was tremendous. And something to build on for project 5,000.
We announced we had sold over 7,000 tickets the day before the game. I know about 85 Oldham fans (4%) that had bought a ticket didn't show. But by my calculations we had 800 of our own fans with tickets that didn't show. They can't all be the free kids season tickets surely as the stands looked pretty full to me. Or did they show and we don't count them as they are free?
Knowing that the ground has a lower capacity today of c9800 compared to 10,300 when redeveloped, and stripping out the Willbutts capacity, COA has a home capacity of c6325. About 2100 more than attended on Saturday. Where would an additional 2000 fans go because the seated stands looked pretty full to me. And the Sandy didn't look like it could accommodate another 2,000 fans? I am simply intrigued. |  | | |  |
| Attendance Saturday on 14:39 - Sep 21 with 4574 views | rochedale |
Good post and exactly my thoughts as well. Where do the additional thousands of fans go, because there didn’t look to be much available space left to occupy. |  |
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| Attendance Saturday on 15:10 - Sep 21 with 4499 views | Nerazzurri |
It's definitely something for the club to look at. One of the dangers of free season tickets, how do you actually get them to attend more often. I think they said at the forum there were around 800 season ticket holders missing from the Crawley game. There were loads of empty seats in Pearl St, just out of my group & the row in front were 5 season ticket holders who couldn't make it for one reason or another.
Don't get me wrong it's been a success so far with a really good increase in home support, probably the best run of home crowds in my lifetime, but it could be even better if we can get the extra 800 or so to attend more regularly. |  |
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| Attendance Saturday on 16:23 - Sep 21 with 4353 views | EllDale |
Two things struck me last Saturday.
The first was the number of seemingly empty seats in the Main Stand block nearest to the Sandy.
And whilst the Sandy itself was fairly full a number of “regulars” who normally stand near me were missing. On holiday? Unable to attend due to early kickoff? Who knows?
The Sandy was certainly less full than, for example, the York game at the end of last season. | | | |
| Attendance Saturday on 16:46 - Sep 21 with 4285 views | D_Alien |
| Attendance Saturday on 16:23 - Sep 21 by EllDale |
Two things struck me last Saturday.
The first was the number of seemingly empty seats in the Main Stand block nearest to the Sandy.
And whilst the Sandy itself was fairly full a number of “regulars” who normally stand near me were missing. On holiday? Unable to attend due to early kickoff? Who knows?
The Sandy was certainly less full than, for example, the York game at the end of last season. |
The main stand was odd. It wasn't just the Sandy end that had unoccupied seats, but a fair number in the Pearl St end, more so than other Saturday games this season
Might well have been that ST holders weren't able to make the early kick off, and the Sandy itself looked no more occupied than usual
Having said that, Dalenet's point about where an extra 2000 might be accommodated is valid
I can't agree with the decision to funnel the entire Pearl St out at a single exit. There were more than enough police at the Willbutts corner to allow more exits to be used. Some less mobile fans were at risk of being pushed and jostled, not through people being thoughtless but through sheer weight of numbers encroaching together. It'll only take one case of someone being trampled on for a potential claim against the club |  |
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| Attendance Saturday on 05:56 - Sep 22 with 3737 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Attendance Saturday on 16:46 - Sep 21 by D_Alien |
The main stand was odd. It wasn't just the Sandy end that had unoccupied seats, but a fair number in the Pearl St end, more so than other Saturday games this season
Might well have been that ST holders weren't able to make the early kick off, and the Sandy itself looked no more occupied than usual
Having said that, Dalenet's point about where an extra 2000 might be accommodated is valid
I can't agree with the decision to funnel the entire Pearl St out at a single exit. There were more than enough police at the Willbutts corner to allow more exits to be used. Some less mobile fans were at risk of being pushed and jostled, not through people being thoughtless but through sheer weight of numbers encroaching together. It'll only take one case of someone being trampled on for a potential claim against the club |
Kettling is Never a good idea especially with the demographic of our fan base. Older and younger the point regarding trampling is a good one.
Whoever thought last season that it’s a good idea is obviously still in the same decision making role that is a worry.
Stewards would not even let an elderly chap use the toilet under the stand. Obviously customer service stops at the full time whistle.
Not good. Not good at all. | | | |
| Attendance Saturday on 07:59 - Sep 22 with 3621 views | Nerazzurri |
Didn’t agree with that exit strategy last year & still don’t now. Terrible idea & completely supporter unfriendly, not a good experience. At the same time you’ve got Millwall v West Ham going on sharing a stand separated only by about 3 seats & here we are acting like its Boca Juniors v River Plate. Completely disproportionate. | |
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| Attendance Saturday on 08:31 - Sep 22 with 3559 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
| Attendance Saturday on 07:59 - Sep 22 by Nerazzurri |
Didn’t agree with that exit strategy last year & still don’t now. Terrible idea & completely supporter unfriendly, not a good experience. At the same time you’ve got Millwall v West Ham going on sharing a stand separated only by about 3 seats & here we are acting like its Boca Juniors v River Plate. Completely disproportionate. |
Yes, but bear in mind the club are dealing with a police force who can put on a mcr derby at seemingly any time of day to suit sky but insist on dale v Oldham being a 12.30 ko regardless of tv coverage. |  | | |
| Attendance Saturday on 12:07 - Sep 22 with 3273 views | D_Alien |
I've submitted an enquiry to CAB about the Pearl St exit problem
Not just asking for an explanation, but pointing out the very real safety issues involved and the closing of toilet facilities at the end of the game | |
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| Attendance Saturday on 13:09 - Sep 22 with 3175 views | judd |
| Attendance Saturday on 12:07 - Sep 22 by D_Alien |
I've submitted an enquiry to CAB about the Pearl St exit problem
Not just asking for an explanation, but pointing out the very real safety issues involved and the closing of toilet facilities at the end of the game |
Matchday operations were discussed in some detail at CAB in March:
https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/wp-c |  |
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| Attendance Saturday on 13:20 - Sep 22 with 3160 views | D_Alien |
Thanks, and i fully appreciate the problems of fans clashing after these types of fixtures. I've referred to this in my enquiry
Nevertheless, there are certain aspects of the single-gate exit strategy that are entirely avoidable, and should be open to further review in the light of continuing experience by fans | |
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| Attendance Saturday on 15:10 - Sep 22 with 3027 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Attendance Saturday on 13:20 - Sep 22 by D_Alien |
Thanks, and i fully appreciate the problems of fans clashing after these types of fixtures. I've referred to this in my enquiry
Nevertheless, there are certain aspects of the single-gate exit strategy that are entirely avoidable, and should be open to further review in the light of continuing experience by fans |
If the club read this (hopefully)
It wasn’t even a full gate…
Half a gate open the other half lazily left in position.l
Please post any club response… I guess there will be no repeat as the Oldham game is past.
Still really poor judgement needs reviewing. | | | |
| Attendance Saturday on 15:41 - Sep 22 with 2968 views | judd |
| Attendance Saturday on 15:10 - Sep 22 by Dale_4_Life |
If the club read this (hopefully)
It wasn’t even a full gate…
Half a gate open the other half lazily left in position.l
Please post any club response… I guess there will be no repeat as the Oldham game is past.
Still really poor judgement needs reviewing. |
There has been other contact made re this and inconsistent stewarding, and seat labelling.
They will be brought up at CAB on 12th October. | |
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| Attendance Saturday on 20:03 - Sep 23 with 2432 views | davidab2202 |
As a near 80 year old , I made the decision after considering the historical issues that this particular fixture has become known for, to give the game a miss .
Just meant checking the score every five minutes, probably the longest 90 minutes I have encountered in a long time !!! | | | |
| Attendance Saturday on 12:55 - Oct 4 with 495 views | Dale_4_Life |
Swindon Town Home …
First time in ages no aggressive wanding / pat down.. Stewards hopefully have been spoken too and have a slightly newer / updated brief.
Pushing 4500 again so 4000 home fans there or thereabouts makes me thInk that with future incentives and another push on by the club project 5000 is not so far off as we think.
Winning helps of course and the scenes on 88 minutes when the goal went in off Hayes head was Brilliant.
Up the Dale!!! | | | |
| Attendance Saturday on 12:59 - Oct 4 with 484 views | tony_roch975 |
| Attendance Saturday on 12:55 - Oct 4 by Dale_4_Life |
Swindon Town Home …
First time in ages no aggressive wanding / pat down.. Stewards hopefully have been spoken too and have a slightly newer / updated brief.
Pushing 4500 again so 4000 home fans there or thereabouts makes me thInk that with future incentives and another push on by the club project 5000 is not so far off as we think.
Winning helps of course and the scenes on 88 minutes when the goal went in off Hayes head was Brilliant.
Up the Dale!!! |
With you on the optimism & Project 5000 but I was frisked for first time for 3 games - consistency!! | |
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| Attendance Saturday on 13:58 - Oct 4 with 329 views | 442Dale |
The stewards are clearly instructed to do random searches. Yesterday it was me whilst my lad wasn’t.
We might not like it individually but failing to see the problem if it’s putting off just one person thinking of bringing in pyro.
The club will probably have to provide an assurance that such searches take place in the event that something happens. If they don’t take place, then it could have huge repercussions if something unfortunate occurred. |  |
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| Attendance Saturday on 14:15 - Oct 4 with 280 views | Drigdale |
Arrived at the ground at about 2.45pm and entry to the ground was as smooth as its ever been. Personally I have found the stewards to be very helpful and pleasant. As with a lot of other things now it feels a lot more professionally organised. | | | |
| Attendance Saturday on 14:32 - Oct 4 with 245 views | 49thseason |
Given that they now send out a post- match email thanking me for attending and with a " how did we do" questionnaire, I guess the next step is to query the list of non- attenders in a similar way.." we noticed you haven't used your ticket for the last few games, is there anything we can do to help"? They may be doing this but as an attendee I don't know.....Hopefully the CAB will get a readout next week...
Combining the ticketing system with a CRM is a powerful tool in these instances. I would urge everyone to fill in and return the questionnaire. Knowing what people are unconcerned about is as important as knowing what bothers them... |  | | |
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