| dunne having medical. 10:19 - Jul 12 with 6871 views | connell10 |
just been told by the same mate who tipped me off about simpson, that dunne is having a medical and will then sign! dont know how true it is but he was right about simpson!  |  |
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| dunne having medical. on 12:50 - Jul 12 with 1191 views | daveB |
| dunne having medical. on 12:16 - Jul 12 by Northernr |
It depends what you mean by cheap. If he offered to play for a grand a week I might consider him as a water carrier or something.
If we're judging signings by Anton Ferdinand standards then we're in trouble. I'm struggling to think of a defender playing in the top three divisions I wouldn't have ahead of Anton Ferdinand. If our standard is "well he's better than Anton Ferdinand" then we could be looking at three quarters of a million people this summer.
Ben Haim will play and play well until such time as we give him a contract of any length. He will then go back to being awful. Since he left Bolton he has been seriously well paid and seriously fcking awful in a variety of different situations at Chelsea, Man City, Portsmouth, Sunderland and West Ham. Portsmouth, Championship club, literally couldn't get rid of him quick enough. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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i don't think he is any better than Ferdinand who is nowhere near as bad as some make out, not good enough for the Prem but if we get Anton focused he could be a very useful player in the championship, i mean even Fitz Hall looked alright at that level |  | | |
| dunne having medical. on 12:51 - Jul 12 with 1185 views | daveB |
| dunne having medical. on 12:37 - Jul 12 by rsonist |
In some ways signing Dunne would seem like HR and co have recognised they can't be bothered to properly coach a defence so they get an experienced coach on the field to sort it.
If we were signing for the longer term I like the look of Rhys Williams at Boro. There's others like James Tomkins and Harry Maguire who are talented but would crumble mentally in this side. |
those three would cost a lot of money though and disagree they can't be bothered to coach a defence, they had the defence pretty solid when they came in last year, we only started shipping goals again when we had to try and push for wins and left ourselves exposed at the baqck | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 12:55 - Jul 12 with 1154 views | Jamie |
Steve Sidwell next. |  | | |
| dunne having medical. on 13:06 - Jul 12 with 1121 views | richranger |
Hmm another defender. Yesterday we seemed to have about 10 in the 2 halves at Exeter but not 2 strikers. Hopefully we'll get some strikers too...
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| dunne having medical. on 13:12 - Jul 12 with 1082 views | makaveli1882 |
| dunne having medical. on 12:39 - Jul 12 by JonDoeman |
Played like a dog for the last 7 years?
I take it you never saw Ireland play in Moscow 2 years ago!
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"Happily for Ireland, Richard Dunne was on theirs and his performance verged on the superhuman"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/06/russia-republic-ireland-euro-2012
Always rated him as a man & player, whether he'll be a good signing or not I don't know, I've given up guessing! |
what was Ben Haim doing playing for Ireland in Moscow ? | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 13:22 - Jul 12 with 1050 views | Northernr |
| dunne having medical. on 12:39 - Jul 12 by JonDoeman |
Played like a dog for the last 7 years?
I take it you never saw Ireland play in Moscow 2 years ago!
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"Happily for Ireland, Richard Dunne was on theirs and his performance verged on the superhuman"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/06/russia-republic-ireland-euro-2012
Always rated him as a man & player, whether he'll be a good signing or not I don't know, I've given up guessing! |
I was talking about Ben Haim. I quite like Dunne. |  | | |
| dunne having medical. on 13:25 - Jul 12 with 1031 views | BklynRanger |
| dunne having medical. on 12:55 - Jul 12 by Jamie |
Steve Sidwell next. |
MORE GINGERS
I've no problem with Dunne coming in. Like Crouch, I wouldn't have much faith in him at the top level these days but he could easily have an Indian Summer with us. |  | | |
| dunne having medical. on 13:43 - Jul 12 with 1003 views | celbridgeranger |
As a long time qpr fan and being Irish dunne would be a solid signing. I watched him in Ireland's last friendly and he played well, considering only back from long injury. If fit he will lead the back line. He is a no noncence old style defender and we could do worse. We've had a good crop of Irish players over the years | | | |
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| dunne having medical. on 13:48 - Jul 12 with 986 views | BAWHoops |
Hill, Onouha, Dunne is reliable enough for The Championship |  |
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| dunne having medical. on 14:26 - Jul 12 with 899 views | derbyhoop |
So our likely targets are Dunne, Parker and Crouch.
It's a good job we are bringing in youngsters that will develop and have a significant sell on value in the future.
The average age of the squad that went to Devon was 28. And that included Sanusi (20), Taarabt (24) and Yun who was awful. Sanusi may not be given a contract and Taarabt looks on his way.
If we supplement our aging squad with the 3 first named, and we do manage to go straight back up, we will have to buy a complete new squad next Summer. |  |
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| dunne having medical. on 14:36 - Jul 12 with 873 views | simmo |
But that will probably not be Redknapps problem so why does he give a fck! |  |
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| dunne having medical. on 14:40 - Jul 12 with 862 views | daveB |
we're close to signing Gary Hooper as well but that might be a bit too positive for some people | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 14:43 - Jul 12 with 855 views | jamois |
Personally not happy about this. Nowhere near the player he was 2 years ago. Plus Harry and Tony clearly seem to be building a squad to take us straight back up. If that doesn't happen then I don't see things going well. It's been said here before already, we need more investment in promising youth, dynamic players with skill who want to fight. |  |
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| dunne having medical. on 14:44 - Jul 12 with 854 views | Northernr |
| dunne having medical. on 14:26 - Jul 12 by derbyhoop |
So our likely targets are Dunne, Parker and Crouch.
It's a good job we are bringing in youngsters that will develop and have a significant sell on value in the future.
The average age of the squad that went to Devon was 28. And that included Sanusi (20), Taarabt (24) and Yun who was awful. Sanusi may not be given a contract and Taarabt looks on his way.
If we supplement our aging squad with the 3 first named, and we do manage to go straight back up, we will have to buy a complete new squad next Summer. |
Firstly it's not really in Redknapp's interests to be looking at long term, which is why I'm not convinced he should be staying on.
But secondly, the situation that squad is in now means we need some big characters in the dressing room to grab it by the scruff of the neck and stop this half arsd fcking about which, it has to be said, mainly centres around the foreign players in the squad.
So while I don't want to see a team of 30 year olds, I can see the benefit of Dunne, Parker, Crouch etc as long as we're also adding younger players around them. If we went and signed a load of lower league kids and put them into the current dressing room it wouldn't do them or us any good - look how Hoilett went last season for example.
All about balance. | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 14:47 - Jul 12 with 845 views | jamois |
| dunne having medical. on 14:44 - Jul 12 by Northernr |
Firstly it's not really in Redknapp's interests to be looking at long term, which is why I'm not convinced he should be staying on.
But secondly, the situation that squad is in now means we need some big characters in the dressing room to grab it by the scruff of the neck and stop this half arsd fcking about which, it has to be said, mainly centres around the foreign players in the squad.
So while I don't want to see a team of 30 year olds, I can see the benefit of Dunne, Parker, Crouch etc as long as we're also adding younger players around them. If we went and signed a load of lower league kids and put them into the current dressing room it wouldn't do them or us any good - look how Hoilett went last season for example.
All about balance. |
ok, I can go with that just about, so long as they start adding to that balance NOW. No more has-beens. For me, 2 maximum of Dunne, Parker and Crouch would have been enough. | |
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| dunne having medical. on 14:48 - Jul 12 with 839 views | Northernr |
| dunne having medical. on 14:47 - Jul 12 by jamois |
ok, I can go with that just about, so long as they start adding to that balance NOW. No more has-beens. For me, 2 maximum of Dunne, Parker and Crouch would have been enough. |
Well we haven't got any of them yet so maybe we will only get one or two. | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 14:50 - Jul 12 with 831 views | daveB |
All this talk about planning for the future will all go out of the window if we lose a few games. Clubs with a 5 year plan are always 5 years away from being any good. Let the academy look for players who will be good in 5 years, Redknapps job is to get players who will be good this season. | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 14:53 - Jul 12 with 814 views | BklynRanger |
| dunne having medical. on 14:40 - Jul 12 by daveB |
we're close to signing Gary Hooper as well but that might be a bit too positive for some people |
Whom can I ask is your source for this Dave? | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 14:54 - Jul 12 with 817 views | adhoc_qpr |
Another problem with Dunne is that between him, Hill, Onouha and Anton we'd have exactly zero ability to play the ball out from the back, meaning lumping it at a half fit Zamora or 5'5 AJ...
We need a left back, left wing, attack focused midfielder and at least 1 striker minimum. | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 15:02 - Jul 12 with 793 views | jamois |
| dunne having medical. on 14:50 - Jul 12 by daveB |
All this talk about planning for the future will all go out of the window if we lose a few games. Clubs with a 5 year plan are always 5 years away from being any good. Let the academy look for players who will be good in 5 years, Redknapps job is to get players who will be good this season. |
I disagree. As a Chairman, would you hire a manager who saw his job as only buying players who would be good for one season? A greater balance between doing the job now and having a squad that can develop together and improve needs to be established, regardless of whether you're QPR, Exeter or Liverpool. And as for our academy, well... | |
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| dunne having medical. on 15:04 - Jul 12 with 785 views | daveB |
| dunne having medical. on 14:53 - Jul 12 by BklynRanger |
Whom can I ask is your source for this Dave? |
Fella from our Manchester office is his cousin or some sort of relation, he told me last week we were in for him and he is keen on a move to england. He was holding out for a premier league team but no one has come in yet | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 15:05 - Jul 12 with 780 views | TheBlob |
| dunne having medical. on 14:47 - Jul 12 by jamois |
ok, I can go with that just about, so long as they start adding to that balance NOW. No more has-beens. For me, 2 maximum of Dunne, Parker and Crouch would have been enough. |
I'd rather have has beens than never was es and never will be's |  |
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| dunne having medical. on 15:07 - Jul 12 with 779 views | daveB |
| dunne having medical. on 15:02 - Jul 12 by jamois |
I disagree. As a Chairman, would you hire a manager who saw his job as only buying players who would be good for one season? A greater balance between doing the job now and having a squad that can develop together and improve needs to be established, regardless of whether you're QPR, Exeter or Liverpool. And as for our academy, well... |
all very well buying for 5/10 seasons but all anyone ever cares about is the next result. You need to strike a balance or you end up a basket case with a new team every season but I would imagine the majority of our signings are with next season in mind rather than 5 years timer.
if we lose our first five games and are bottom is anyone going to say well at least we'll be good in 5 years and not call for the manager to go? | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 15:25 - Jul 12 with 728 views | adhoc_qpr |
| dunne having medical. on 15:07 - Jul 12 by daveB |
all very well buying for 5/10 seasons but all anyone ever cares about is the next result. You need to strike a balance or you end up a basket case with a new team every season but I would imagine the majority of our signings are with next season in mind rather than 5 years timer.
if we lose our first five games and are bottom is anyone going to say well at least we'll be good in 5 years and not call for the manager to go? |
I think we could easily sign Dunne, Parker and Crouch and still lose our first 5 games TBH!
21st place next season will do me, mid-table i'd be happy and a late playoff charge i'd be ecstatic.
We currently have a bad defence, sloppy midfield, non-existent attack, no game plan and a disjointed, malcontent, unbalanced squad - hopefully Redknapp can resolve some of those issues this summer, but i'm not holding my breath. | | | |
| dunne having medical. on 15:25 - Jul 12 with 727 views | BklynRanger |
| dunne having medical. on 15:04 - Jul 12 by daveB |
Fella from our Manchester office is his cousin or some sort of relation, he told me last week we were in for him and he is keen on a move to england. He was holding out for a premier league team but no one has come in yet |
Cheers. I suppose it depends how long he holds out for.
Chunks of TF-sanctioned readies might make the difference. | | | |
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