| Caulker to Saints 11:58 - Jul 29 with 30808 views | simmo |
Looks possible, initially as a loan - Simon Peach rarely wrong when it comes to Saints
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| Caulker to Saints? on 12:43 - Jul 29 with 2884 views | simmo |
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| Caulker to Saints? on 12:43 - Jul 29 with 2875 views | bob566 |
we must be really fecked financially if we're making deals like that.
welcome back to centerback clint.
Getting a little worried now. We're really in a bad way at the back. Loads of untried lads. Caulker off. No rightback if furlong gets injured. Left back injured. Clint who I love but a year older asked to step in no doubt and our we're no idea if green is staying or not.
here's a thought. Do you reckon they might be planning on playing sandro at centerback. Oh wait he hasn't got a permit.
Still at least our lads have will be match fit and well drilled from their preseason. |  | | |
| Caulker to Saints? on 12:45 - Jul 29 with 2852 views | adhoc_qpr |
Not sure the logic in that article really works - if we loan him, we get him off the wage bill, but can have him back next season if we go up.
But surely in reality, his wage has already reduced and if we go into this season with no defence and shipping out players for no fees, promotion isn't a realistic goal anyway? | | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 12:46 - Jul 29 with 2847 views | simmo |
Resigning Richard Dunne in 3........2...........1................. | |
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| Caulker to Saints? on 12:48 - Jul 29 with 2814 views | Snipper |
| Caulker to Saints? on 12:39 - Jul 29 by johnhoop |
So you're saying that the DOF and manager have no say over whether a key player leaves the club? |
Does this mean that Southampton will be relegated? |  | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 12:49 - Jul 29 with 2804 views | danehoop |
There is possibly quite a lot more to this that we havent seen.
We are not cash strapped and FFP isnt going to bite as some would think. I am just wondering if Les and Chris who will have been working closely with him will either be aware of an issue that we dont which means its better for him to be away from the club?
Probably clutching at straws, but otherwise I cant see a great deal of logic to this move for QPR. |  |
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| Caulker to Saints? on 12:52 - Jul 29 with 2765 views | daveB |
| Caulker to Saints? on 12:45 - Jul 29 by adhoc_qpr |
Not sure the logic in that article really works - if we loan him, we get him off the wage bill, but can have him back next season if we go up.
But surely in reality, his wage has already reduced and if we go into this season with no defence and shipping out players for no fees, promotion isn't a realistic goal anyway? |
even if his wage went down I bet it's still big for a championship player. This is the reality now for QPR, we are a championship club with a tiny stadium who gambled on spending big and blew it. Time to start again and it won't be easy |  | | |
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| Caulker to Saints? on 12:53 - Jul 29 with 2759 views | Dando |
I was very dissapointed with Caulker last year, but in this division he clearly has the quality and potential to do well, and aside from that we are short for numbers. Surely if hes going then we must have at least x2 cbs lined up to sign? Otherwise we go into the season with Ned (injury prone) and Hill, who is at the end of his career, with no fit first choice left back and only Furlong to choose from at right back, who clearly is not ready from what most of us have seen.
The signs are there that the squad is improving, and the midfield has so many strong options, but the rest of the park is down to the bare bones. There is still time, but as we have seen before, losing is a habit so we dont want to go into the season with as weak lineup as this, and risk getting off to a bad start. | | | |
| Caulker to Saints? on 13:03 - Jul 29 with 2668 views | Discodroids |
| Caulker to Saints? on 12:52 - Jul 29 by daveB |
even if his wage went down I bet it's still big for a championship player. This is the reality now for QPR, we are a championship club with a tiny stadium who gambled on spending big and blew it. Time to start again and it won't be easy |
by any standards dave, 8 million holy beans of harry to be reduced into the ether in 12 months is great going , even by our putrid standards.
they pay his wages while he plays for them !... what a deal .
is it to late to renegotiate so we can pay at least 50% of his wages while he plays for a club twenty times richer than us in the most lucrative leagues in the world.
fack me, if double diamond did transfer deals.. [Post edited 29 Jul 2015 13:08]
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| Caulker to Saints? on 13:03 - Jul 29 with 2669 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Caulker to Saints? on 12:39 - Jul 29 by johnhoop |
So you're saying that the DOF and manager have no say over whether a key player leaves the club? |
Not at all - but I find it hard to believe they're happily signing away this deal unless they're under serious pressure because of finance issues. |  |
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| Caulker to Saints on 13:03 - Jul 29 with 2663 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Caulker to Saints on 12:49 - Jul 29 by danehoop |
There is possibly quite a lot more to this that we havent seen.
We are not cash strapped and FFP isnt going to bite as some would think. I am just wondering if Les and Chris who will have been working closely with him will either be aware of an issue that we dont which means its better for him to be away from the club?
Probably clutching at straws, but otherwise I cant see a great deal of logic to this move for QPR. |
In that case why not shop him around early and sell him to WBA for £5m or whatever they offered a month ago?
Also why loan out Caulker (and Harriman) without getting in any replacements?
The only defence we can field for the our last pre-season friendly involves Furlong (3 senior starts) and Kpekawa (1 senior start) at fullback.
Onouha and Hill is functional centre back pairing for the Championship, but we need more depth given Hill's age and Onouha injury record. | | | |
| Caulker to Saints? on 13:04 - Jul 29 with 2643 views | simmo |
| Caulker to Saints? on 13:03 - Jul 29 by Antti_Heinola |
Not at all - but I find it hard to believe they're happily signing away this deal unless they're under serious pressure because of finance issues. |
Poor Ramsey, his first and possibly last chance to impress and show his managerial mettle and they're hamstringing him all over the shop! | |
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| Caulker to Saints? on 13:07 - Jul 29 with 2612 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Caulker to Saints? on 13:04 - Jul 29 by simmo |
Poor Ramsey, his first and possibly last chance to impress and show his managerial mettle and they're hamstringing him all over the shop! |
I know - as I said, we really should give him some time and as fans show some patience if things don't start well. | |
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| Caulker to Saints on 13:07 - Jul 29 with 2609 views | Discodroids |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:03 - Jul 29 by adhoc_qpr |
In that case why not shop him around early and sell him to WBA for £5m or whatever they offered a month ago?
Also why loan out Caulker (and Harriman) without getting in any replacements?
The only defence we can field for the our last pre-season friendly involves Furlong (3 senior starts) and Kpekawa (1 senior start) at fullback.
Onouha and Hill is functional centre back pairing for the Championship, but we need more depth given Hill's age and Onouha injury record. |
here here my good man.
sell the cnt when you could to west brom , not loan him out like a rotherham taxi driver shares out his 14 year old girlfriend to his mates outside the dixy fried chicken shithouse.
christ sake , some of the people working at our club couldnt get a job working for walthemstow council. [Post edited 29 Jul 2015 13:10]
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| Caulker to Saints on 13:12 - Jul 29 with 2331 views | ballbag |
Fck me sideways and call me Doris.
At this rate, we'll have to stick Andy Sinton at CB. |  | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:15 - Jul 29 with 2291 views | oldmeadoniansR |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:07 - Jul 29 by Discodroids |
here here my good man.
sell the cnt when you could to west brom , not loan him out like a rotherham taxi driver shares out his 14 year old girlfriend to his mates outside the dixy fried chicken shithouse.
christ sake , some of the people working at our club couldnt get a job working for walthemstow council. [Post edited 29 Jul 2015 13:10]
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Hope he goes. He ain't rangers and I have never liked him. | | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:17 - Jul 29 with 2277 views | daveB |
perhaps we are getting a loan fee which will go towards replacements, I find it hard to believe we won't sign several defenders before the window shuts | | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:19 - Jul 29 with 2260 views | fakekerby |
Really wound up about this one.
Why do Saints need to loan him? Cough up or go away. The guy has plenty of experience and has played enough games for them to know what they're signing.
They also have plenty of cash as they sent the money aside to buy Alderweirweld before Spurs stole him under their noses.
On the other side, we also have no defenders at the club already and it makes no sense to loan out a £6-8 million pound asset even to save on wages as we've already shifted hundreds of thousands a week off the books.
The only positives I can grasp at are if Saints are paying a silly loan fee (at least 3 million quid) or willing to loan us a few players for the season ahead in exchange. | | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:20 - Jul 29 with 2235 views | queensparker |
So we will be left with two centre backs at the club, one of which is Clint Hill (who will probably be playing left back because we haven't got any of them fit either)? My pre-season optimism is being sorely tested…
Unless we've got dire cash flow issues and need to sell before we buy (which I doubt), then the time to get in replacements was a while ago now. |  | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:20 - Jul 29 with 2226 views | Discodroids |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:15 - Jul 29 by oldmeadoniansR |
Hope he goes. He ain't rangers and I have never liked him. |
fair enough mate im no fan , but it would be nice if we could receive coins of the realm for someone who cost us 8 million cnting quid 12 months ago.
£13 million to cardiff in total , inc mutch.
the QPR FD should bet a job at tower hamlets with Luthfur Rahmen.
weve received less funds than the overspill down the sides of a 2p pushing amusment machine on clacton pier. [Post edited 29 Jul 2015 13:21]
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| Caulker to Saints on 13:24 - Jul 29 with 2188 views | eghamranger |
One of the bad eggs I think!!
Likes a beer too much, massive wages no doubt
But why get rid of Ehmer.... Seems crazy |  | | |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:24 - Jul 29 with 2186 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:20 - Jul 29 by Discodroids |
fair enough mate im no fan , but it would be nice if we could receive coins of the realm for someone who cost us 8 million cnting quid 12 months ago.
£13 million to cardiff in total , inc mutch.
the QPR FD should bet a job at tower hamlets with Luthfur Rahmen.
weve received less funds than the overspill down the sides of a 2p pushing amusment machine on clacton pier. [Post edited 29 Jul 2015 13:21]
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there will undoubtedly be a loan fee, Disco, plus his substantial wages off the bill.
Dave Mc tweeting it's a good deal for all parties and we need to get real about the relegation. Have to say I agree. | |
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| Caulker to Saints on 13:27 - Jul 29 with 2142 views | simmo |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:17 - Jul 29 by daveB |
perhaps we are getting a loan fee which will go towards replacements, I find it hard to believe we won't sign several defenders before the window shuts |
Yeah I would imagine the loan fee will probably cover the reported 700k Wigan want for Perch, and still leave us with change. Andre Wisdom is apparently 1.2m loan fee so it should be at least that much. Plus his wages off the books and we have a player that wants to play in the premier league away from the club ready to be replaced by someone that hopefully wants to be with us.
I can see why it makes sense in a lot of ways, it's just the timing of it - exacerbated by the fact that we only have 2 other CB's already at the club, one of which is older than prostitution. | |
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| Caulker to Saints on 13:28 - Jul 29 with 2140 views | fakekerby |
| Caulker to Saints on 13:24 - Jul 29 by Antti_Heinola |
there will undoubtedly be a loan fee, Disco, plus his substantial wages off the bill.
Dave Mc tweeting it's a good deal for all parties and we need to get real about the relegation. Have to say I agree. |
A good deal is selling him for the 8 million we paid for him. | | | |
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