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Summer transfer rumours thread on 15:54 - May 20 by PinnerPaul
Got very shirty on MOTD last night when the reporter had the temerity to ask him about it!
It was a most unusual interview. Steve Bower seemed to be trying to engage him in commitment issues therapy at one point.
Not entirely sure it signalled that they weren't prepared to fund a revamp though - maybe that he wasn't on board with how they wanted it to be spent (ie with an eye on medium to long term investment) or he just plain wasn't up for it personally.
Shouldn't be much missed if they get Wilder instead, though he'll want to spend the money his way too.
If they go for someone like Appleton or Maresca then that could well indicate some belt-tightening ahead.
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Summer transfer rumours thread on 16:12 - May 20 with 6233 views
Summer transfer rumours thread on 16:10 - May 20 by rsonist
It was a most unusual interview. Steve Bower seemed to be trying to engage him in commitment issues therapy at one point.
Not entirely sure it signalled that they weren't prepared to fund a revamp though - maybe that he wasn't on board with how they wanted it to be spent (ie with an eye on medium to long term investment) or he just plain wasn't up for it personally.
Shouldn't be much missed if they get Wilder instead, though he'll want to spend the money his way too.
If they go for someone like Appleton or Maresca then that could well indicate some belt-tightening ahead.
He came across as a right prat ranting about being a short term manager. Not sure where he thinks he'll get another job, he's not even keeping teams up anymore
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Summer transfer rumours thread on 16:21 - May 20 with 6133 views
Summer transfer rumours thread on 16:12 - May 20 by daveB
He came across as a right prat ranting about being a short term manager. Not sure where he thinks he'll get another job, he's not even keeping teams up anymore
"It's all in the statement."
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Summer transfer rumours thread on 19:28 - May 20 with 5849 views
Summer transfer rumours thread on 15:27 - May 20 by kensalriser
What a stupid move that was by WBA. Sacked what seemed to be a decent manager for one who couldn’t keep them up and doesn’t fancy it a division below. Shot themselves in each foot there.
True. Even apart from the dubious ethics of appointing a manager who had left the England job in such circumstances.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Always think its worth just pointing to the wikipedia entry for Mr Alladyce covering the corruption allegations he has encountered in his recent managerial career:
2006 Panorama investigation
Main article: 2006 English football corruption investigation On 19 September 2006, Allardyce, and his son, Craig, were implicated in a BBC Panorama documentary, Undercover: Football's Dirty Secrets, which alleged that he had taken bribes from agents for signing certain players. Two agents, Teni Yerima and Peter Harrison, were secretly filmed, each separately claiming that they had paid Allardyce through his son. Allardyce denied ever taking, or asking for, a bribe.[233] Others implicated of wrongdoing were Harry Redknapp, Kevin Bond, and Frank Arnesen.[234] As a result of the allegation, Allardyce refused to speak to the BBC.[235] While he also stated he was going to sue the broadcaster to clear his name,[236] Allardyce failed to issue libel proceedings as he was advised that suing for damage to reputation was a costly and time-consuming process.[237] The final report of the Stevens inquiry published in June 2007 expressed concerns regarding the involvement of Craig Allardyce in a number of transactions, stating that: "The inquiry remains concerned at the conflict of interest that it believes existed between Craig Allardyce, his father Sam Allardyce–the then manager at Bolton–and the club itself."[238] Allardyce stated that the inquiry was a public relations exercise and that the conclusion of a "conflict of interest" was "innuendo, without any facts".[239]
2014 Ravel Morrison situation
In February 2014, Daniel Taylor, chief football writer for The Guardian and The Observer, wrote that West Ham player and England prospect Ravel Morrison felt he had come "under considerable pressure" from Allardyce to sign up with football agent Mark Curtis, who represented Allardyce himself and a number of other West Ham players, including Kevin Nolan, James Tomkins, Jack Collison, Matt Jarvis, Andy Carroll, and Jussi Jääskeläinen.[240] Curtis had been charged and eventually cleared by the Football Association during the 2008 investigation into Luton Town's illegal transfer dealings.[240] Curtis responded to the allegations by saying they were "nonsense", while Allardyce talked of Morrison complaining about "a groin injury" while the club's medical staff could find "no problem",[240] and made a reference to the player's "disciplinary issues in the past".[241] Morrison was eventually loaned out to Championship side Queens Park Rangers for the remainder of the 2013—14 season.[242]
2016 Daily Telegraph investigation
Main article: 2016 English football scandal In September 2016, Daily Telegraph reporters posing as businessmen filmed Allardyce, who had recently been appointed the manager of the England football team, allegedly offering to give advice on how to get around on FA rules on player third party ownership and negotiating a £400,000 deal, subject to FA approval.[3][243] As a result, he left his job as England manager by mutual agreement with the FA after just one game in charge.[244]
Robert Sullivan, Director of Strategy at the FA, later confirmed to the Commons Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee that Allardyce's comments were "a factual, correct statement around the laws of the English game and having third-party ownership"[245]
Following a review by City of London Police, Allardyce was cleared of any wrongdoing, with The Daily Telegraph also clarifying that it "did not suggest that Allardyce had broken the law", though he agreed that he had been "a fool".[246]
Speaking to The Observer, Martin Glen, CEO of the FA, said that "it is a tragedy that we have ended up having to part company with him [Allardyce] over the, the — you know — entrapment".[247]
Never knowingly understood
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Summer transfer rumours thread on 13:18 - May 21 with 4710 views
Summer transfer rumours thread on 13:08 - May 21 by danehoop
Always think its worth just pointing to the wikipedia entry for Mr Alladyce covering the corruption allegations he has encountered in his recent managerial career:
2006 Panorama investigation
Main article: 2006 English football corruption investigation On 19 September 2006, Allardyce, and his son, Craig, were implicated in a BBC Panorama documentary, Undercover: Football's Dirty Secrets, which alleged that he had taken bribes from agents for signing certain players. Two agents, Teni Yerima and Peter Harrison, were secretly filmed, each separately claiming that they had paid Allardyce through his son. Allardyce denied ever taking, or asking for, a bribe.[233] Others implicated of wrongdoing were Harry Redknapp, Kevin Bond, and Frank Arnesen.[234] As a result of the allegation, Allardyce refused to speak to the BBC.[235] While he also stated he was going to sue the broadcaster to clear his name,[236] Allardyce failed to issue libel proceedings as he was advised that suing for damage to reputation was a costly and time-consuming process.[237] The final report of the Stevens inquiry published in June 2007 expressed concerns regarding the involvement of Craig Allardyce in a number of transactions, stating that: "The inquiry remains concerned at the conflict of interest that it believes existed between Craig Allardyce, his father Sam Allardyce–the then manager at Bolton–and the club itself."[238] Allardyce stated that the inquiry was a public relations exercise and that the conclusion of a "conflict of interest" was "innuendo, without any facts".[239]
2014 Ravel Morrison situation
In February 2014, Daniel Taylor, chief football writer for The Guardian and The Observer, wrote that West Ham player and England prospect Ravel Morrison felt he had come "under considerable pressure" from Allardyce to sign up with football agent Mark Curtis, who represented Allardyce himself and a number of other West Ham players, including Kevin Nolan, James Tomkins, Jack Collison, Matt Jarvis, Andy Carroll, and Jussi Jääskeläinen.[240] Curtis had been charged and eventually cleared by the Football Association during the 2008 investigation into Luton Town's illegal transfer dealings.[240] Curtis responded to the allegations by saying they were "nonsense", while Allardyce talked of Morrison complaining about "a groin injury" while the club's medical staff could find "no problem",[240] and made a reference to the player's "disciplinary issues in the past".[241] Morrison was eventually loaned out to Championship side Queens Park Rangers for the remainder of the 2013—14 season.[242]
2016 Daily Telegraph investigation
Main article: 2016 English football scandal In September 2016, Daily Telegraph reporters posing as businessmen filmed Allardyce, who had recently been appointed the manager of the England football team, allegedly offering to give advice on how to get around on FA rules on player third party ownership and negotiating a £400,000 deal, subject to FA approval.[3][243] As a result, he left his job as England manager by mutual agreement with the FA after just one game in charge.[244]
Robert Sullivan, Director of Strategy at the FA, later confirmed to the Commons Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee that Allardyce's comments were "a factual, correct statement around the laws of the English game and having third-party ownership"[245]
Following a review by City of London Police, Allardyce was cleared of any wrongdoing, with The Daily Telegraph also clarifying that it "did not suggest that Allardyce had broken the law", though he agreed that he had been "a fool".[246]
Speaking to The Observer, Martin Glen, CEO of the FA, said that "it is a tragedy that we have ended up having to part company with him [Allardyce] over the, the — you know — entrapment".[247]
I'm shocked! Shocked to see Harry Reddknapp's name in there.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
I know it has gone a bit stale for him at Wednesday, but he's 28, is very experienced at this level and could be useful LWB or as cover for Chair/Willock role.
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Summer transfer rumours thread on 14:29 - May 21 with 4357 views
I know it has gone a bit stale for him at Wednesday, but he's 28, is very experienced at this level and could be useful LWB or as cover for Chair/Willock role.
I'm all for adding some verbs to our nouns, so that would be awesome. And as reach is also a noun, this would make a very versatile signing.
I know it has gone a bit stale for him at Wednesday, but he's 28, is very experienced at this level and could be useful LWB or as cover for Chair/Willock role.
Good call. Also has a great shot on him.
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Summer transfer rumours thread on 19:41 - May 21 with 3679 views
I know it has gone a bit stale for him at Wednesday, but he's 28, is very experienced at this level and could be useful LWB or as cover for Chair/Willock role.
Adam Reach has been Around for a while though
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Summer transfer rumours thread on 19:56 - May 21 with 3620 views
I saw a mention about Keiran Westwood being released by Wednesday and QPR link.
Wouldn't write that 1 off. Lumley gone, Kelly wants 1st team football (@ Motherwell?) and Warbs wants Walsh to get some experience on loan. Westwood is 36 and would probably be happy enough keeping the bench warm. Better option than Dillon Barnes?
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