| Saints Revival 14:50 - Sep 10 with 7134 views | Ron11 |
The truth is out. Kyle Walker Peters says that Ruben Selles has improved them 'massively' since joining the club as a coach.
He's up and in the technical area within a minute of kick off, barking instructions into Hassenhutl's clueless ear.
This is where the vast improvement has come from, nothing to do with Hassenhutl, all he's good at is bizarre ideas and talking shite. |  | | |  |
| Saints Revival on 15:17 - Sep 11 with 1756 views | ElijahK |
| Saints Revival on 14:19 - Sep 11 by Bazza |
To me there is little value in comparing past managers.
Don’t keep repeating there are no facts to support sacking him. You seem to have no memory on any bad facts of Ralph’s tenure. Obvious reason to sack Ralph was the total lack of effort put into the dozen final games of last season, on top of the 9-nils.
A reason preventing him being sacked could have been his generous contract requiring a significant payoff plus the difficulty in recruiting a quality replacement manager for a struggling team. |
Or that any realistic saints fan knew that staying up was good enough anyway for what he had at his disposal | |
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| Saints Revival on 15:59 - Sep 11 with 1720 views | Ron11 |
| Saints Revival on 14:19 - Sep 11 by Bazza |
To me there is little value in comparing past managers.
Don’t keep repeating there are no facts to support sacking him. You seem to have no memory on any bad facts of Ralph’s tenure. Obvious reason to sack Ralph was the total lack of effort put into the dozen final games of last season, on top of the 9-nils.
A reason preventing him being sacked could have been his generous contract requiring a significant payoff plus the difficulty in recruiting a quality replacement manager for a struggling team. |
Well after the Tottenham capitulation this season, it was yet again only going in one direction - chaos.
Selles has taken over the ship, and things have changed..Let's face it any manager losing 9-0 once would have been sacked, never mind twice, plus serving up a pile of unfathomable drivel for the second half of last season and then trying to continue where he left off at Tottenham - deluded doesn't come into it.
Two up front was doing OK as well, so why just change it completely. Why?
Perhaps we should ask Broja, he certainly didn't want to stay here. | | | |
| Saints Revival on 16:10 - Sep 11 with 1709 views | saintwizzler |
| Saints Revival on 15:59 - Sep 11 by Ron11 |
Well after the Tottenham capitulation this season, it was yet again only going in one direction - chaos.
Selles has taken over the ship, and things have changed..Let's face it any manager losing 9-0 once would have been sacked, never mind twice, plus serving up a pile of unfathomable drivel for the second half of last season and then trying to continue where he left off at Tottenham - deluded doesn't come into it.
Two up front was doing OK as well, so why just change it completely. Why?
Perhaps we should ask Broja, he certainly didn't want to stay here. |
Leave the guy alone!
He loves the club and think of all that tax he has to pay!!
He will get us to 40 points quicker than a Djenepo step over.
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| Saints Revival on 16:59 - Sep 11 with 1685 views | saint68 |
| Saints Revival on 11:22 - Sep 11 by ElijahK |
And what evidence is it that you have to back all of this may I ask?
As see that’s the major difference between the Ralph in’ers to out’ers. As the people who want Ralph whenever they make a point can show facts and can say if things that no one can really argue with, yet those that want Ralph out will always just seem to come up with these theories of what MIGHT have happened, yet there’s no evidence at all to back it…
As where is it that seemens in the one who changed the tactics of Ralph after the spurs game? Where’s the evidence to suggest that anyone who ever argues with Ralph gets benched (although most managers would bench someone who’s gonna argue with them, but not to the degree your making out)? And where’s your evidence that he didn’t get a say on players or coaches etc?
As from all the waffle your coming out with, Ralph is simply there for… well no reason at all! So if that were the case then why wouldn’t some of the biggest businessmen in the world have sacked him by now? As they’re intelligent enough to know that there’s no point in wasting money or time on a goal of making us the new Red Bull like football company, and getting in a new manager may at least lead to us having some aspects improved as they will actually do stuff.
But that’s the thing isn’t it, they’ve not sacked him and there’s no one saying that he’s about to be sacked ether. So ether most of what you’ve come out with is the usual Ralph out BS that you lot go on about, or the owners are just wasting money for the sake of it and that Ralph makes no difference at all to the club…
Yet when I look at how well our owner’s businesses have gone in recent years, I think I know which one I’ll be going with |
I posted before the end of last season that Romeu would be off in the summer..he'd had enough of Ralph and was hoping rhe club moved him on...they didnt. So he left and now we are short in that position if injuries occur...sellrs was seen frantically trying to wake Ralph up at 0-2 down at home to Leeds.
.but you want PROOF!!!
Maybe just injest what's going on infront of your eyes occasionally... [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 19:57]
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| Saints Revival on 17:19 - Sep 11 with 1675 views | Ron11 |
| Saints Revival on 16:59 - Sep 11 by saint68 |
I posted before the end of last season that Romeu would be off in the summer..he'd had enough of Ralph and was hoping rhe club moved him on...they didnt. So he left and now we are short in that position if injuries occur...sellrs was seen frantically trying to wake Ralph up at 0-2 down at home to Leeds.
.but you want PROOF!!!
Maybe just injest what's going on infront of your eyes occasionally... [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 19:57]
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Indeed Selles was, and that was when the Hassenhutl nonsense stopped, hopefully for good. | | | |
| Saints Revival on 18:04 - Sep 11 with 1650 views | ElijahK |
| Saints Revival on 16:59 - Sep 11 by saint68 |
I posted before the end of last season that Romeu would be off in the summer..he'd had enough of Ralph and was hoping rhe club moved him on...they didnt. So he left and now we are short in that position if injuries occur...sellrs was seen frantically trying to wake Ralph up at 0-2 down at home to Leeds.
.but you want PROOF!!!
Maybe just injest what's going on infront of your eyes occasionally... [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 19:57]
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And maybe you might wanna be a tad bit more realistic in seriously complaining about a manager that’s kept up a team that should really have gone down (and managed to keep them up by some margin on many of the season he’s been here for!)
As I’m not sure if you’ve realised yet or not, but real football ain’t like those football manager games where you can spend as much as you want, and you can get saints winning the quadruple within a year or so, as this is real life and keeping us up with what he has had at his disposal, is an achievement in itself, and only someone with the levels of a child’s expectations, would complain about what he’s done!
And ok so supposedly our new assist is what made us come back from being 2-0 down against Leeds, but how is it that you don’t know it was vice versa and that it was his tactics that got us in this mess and Ralph’s the one that changed it? Yet again no backing, but of course all you Ralph outers don’t like to be realistic or use logic now do you…
And if your now saying that Romeu left because of Ralph then you might as well blame WW2 on Ralph, as we sold Romeu at the perfect time, and what your saying is yet again another thing with bugger all to back it!
Edit: and anyway, even if it has been the new assistant who’s been causing all these changes, do you not think that the owner would’ve caught into this by now? Do you not think that they’d of spoken to players and such to see if it is just Ralph messing it up? And even if it has been due to the assistant that we’ve done well, what’s the issue? As the whole point of having an assist manager is so they can give their views on the situation and can help out the coach when they’re stuck, which if he’s doing is exactly what we’d expect him to do.
As when are you lot gonna give Ralph any credit? As whenever he does do well you’ve always got an excuse, yet when he does poor, you’ll always be the first to criticise him, but I guess if it’s all down to the assistant now, then when we do go on a poor run it should be them getting sacked rather than Ralph then. [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 18:08]
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| Saints Revival on 18:46 - Sep 11 with 1610 views | Ron11 |
| Saints Revival on 18:04 - Sep 11 by ElijahK |
And maybe you might wanna be a tad bit more realistic in seriously complaining about a manager that’s kept up a team that should really have gone down (and managed to keep them up by some margin on many of the season he’s been here for!)
As I’m not sure if you’ve realised yet or not, but real football ain’t like those football manager games where you can spend as much as you want, and you can get saints winning the quadruple within a year or so, as this is real life and keeping us up with what he has had at his disposal, is an achievement in itself, and only someone with the levels of a child’s expectations, would complain about what he’s done!
And ok so supposedly our new assist is what made us come back from being 2-0 down against Leeds, but how is it that you don’t know it was vice versa and that it was his tactics that got us in this mess and Ralph’s the one that changed it? Yet again no backing, but of course all you Ralph outers don’t like to be realistic or use logic now do you…
And if your now saying that Romeu left because of Ralph then you might as well blame WW2 on Ralph, as we sold Romeu at the perfect time, and what your saying is yet again another thing with bugger all to back it!
Edit: and anyway, even if it has been the new assistant who’s been causing all these changes, do you not think that the owner would’ve caught into this by now? Do you not think that they’d of spoken to players and such to see if it is just Ralph messing it up? And even if it has been due to the assistant that we’ve done well, what’s the issue? As the whole point of having an assist manager is so they can give their views on the situation and can help out the coach when they’re stuck, which if he’s doing is exactly what we’d expect him to do.
As when are you lot gonna give Ralph any credit? As whenever he does do well you’ve always got an excuse, yet when he does poor, you’ll always be the first to criticise him, but I guess if it’s all down to the assistant now, then when we do go on a poor run it should be them getting sacked rather than Ralph then. [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 18:08]
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Well, we'll see won't we?
But it's nice to have a bit of optimism at last, instead of bafflement and the inevitable drop deep and concede with the following occasional naming and blaming of players. | | | |
| Saints Revival on 18:50 - Sep 11 with 1608 views | Butty101 |
| Saints Revival on 18:04 - Sep 11 by ElijahK |
And maybe you might wanna be a tad bit more realistic in seriously complaining about a manager that’s kept up a team that should really have gone down (and managed to keep them up by some margin on many of the season he’s been here for!)
As I’m not sure if you’ve realised yet or not, but real football ain’t like those football manager games where you can spend as much as you want, and you can get saints winning the quadruple within a year or so, as this is real life and keeping us up with what he has had at his disposal, is an achievement in itself, and only someone with the levels of a child’s expectations, would complain about what he’s done!
And ok so supposedly our new assist is what made us come back from being 2-0 down against Leeds, but how is it that you don’t know it was vice versa and that it was his tactics that got us in this mess and Ralph’s the one that changed it? Yet again no backing, but of course all you Ralph outers don’t like to be realistic or use logic now do you…
And if your now saying that Romeu left because of Ralph then you might as well blame WW2 on Ralph, as we sold Romeu at the perfect time, and what your saying is yet again another thing with bugger all to back it!
Edit: and anyway, even if it has been the new assistant who’s been causing all these changes, do you not think that the owner would’ve caught into this by now? Do you not think that they’d of spoken to players and such to see if it is just Ralph messing it up? And even if it has been due to the assistant that we’ve done well, what’s the issue? As the whole point of having an assist manager is so they can give their views on the situation and can help out the coach when they’re stuck, which if he’s doing is exactly what we’d expect him to do.
As when are you lot gonna give Ralph any credit? As whenever he does do well you’ve always got an excuse, yet when he does poor, you’ll always be the first to criticise him, but I guess if it’s all down to the assistant now, then when we do go on a poor run it should be them getting sacked rather than Ralph then. [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 18:08]
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Ralph is a poor man’s Mark Hughes, as backed up by stats. I should add Hughes could organise a defence as well. Something Ralph has never managed to do.
You keep on banging about net spend, but in terms of wages we were the 12th biggest payers when Ralph got us to the top for a night.
Ps have you had a look at the clubs history yet? You glossed over our success pre premiership days |  |
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| Saints Revival on 19:15 - Sep 11 with 1598 views | ElijahK |
| Saints Revival on 18:50 - Sep 11 by Butty101 |
Ralph is a poor man’s Mark Hughes, as backed up by stats. I should add Hughes could organise a defence as well. Something Ralph has never managed to do.
You keep on banging about net spend, but in terms of wages we were the 12th biggest payers when Ralph got us to the top for a night.
Ps have you had a look at the clubs history yet? You glossed over our success pre premiership days |
But the stats don’t, as I’ve already proven when you last said all your waffle about Hughes.
And yeah so maybe our defence was a bit better under Hughes, but it certainly looks like we may currently have our best defence that we’ve had since Fonte left, from what they’ve shown since that Spurs game this season!
P.S A lot has changed since the 80’s and before, so I don’t think comparing how the league was back then to how it is today is fair for ether side, as the past is the past, and we’ve had our ups and downs, but unlike the skates we don’t just go on about it, as we like to look forward to the future and everything that it brings! | |
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| Saints Revival on 20:08 - Sep 11 with 1572 views | saint68 |
| Saints Revival on 18:04 - Sep 11 by ElijahK |
And maybe you might wanna be a tad bit more realistic in seriously complaining about a manager that’s kept up a team that should really have gone down (and managed to keep them up by some margin on many of the season he’s been here for!)
As I’m not sure if you’ve realised yet or not, but real football ain’t like those football manager games where you can spend as much as you want, and you can get saints winning the quadruple within a year or so, as this is real life and keeping us up with what he has had at his disposal, is an achievement in itself, and only someone with the levels of a child’s expectations, would complain about what he’s done!
And ok so supposedly our new assist is what made us come back from being 2-0 down against Leeds, but how is it that you don’t know it was vice versa and that it was his tactics that got us in this mess and Ralph’s the one that changed it? Yet again no backing, but of course all you Ralph outers don’t like to be realistic or use logic now do you…
And if your now saying that Romeu left because of Ralph then you might as well blame WW2 on Ralph, as we sold Romeu at the perfect time, and what your saying is yet again another thing with bugger all to back it!
Edit: and anyway, even if it has been the new assistant who’s been causing all these changes, do you not think that the owner would’ve caught into this by now? Do you not think that they’d of spoken to players and such to see if it is just Ralph messing it up? And even if it has been due to the assistant that we’ve done well, what’s the issue? As the whole point of having an assist manager is so they can give their views on the situation and can help out the coach when they’re stuck, which if he’s doing is exactly what we’d expect him to do.
As when are you lot gonna give Ralph any credit? As whenever he does do well you’ve always got an excuse, yet when he does poor, you’ll always be the first to criticise him, but I guess if it’s all down to the assistant now, then when we do go on a poor run it should be them getting sacked rather than Ralph then. [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 18:08]
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I'll never give that record defeat (twice)
Record run without a win
Player alienating clown any credit,unless he leaves next week and walks away with no compensation or massive contract payout...
He's a fraud...and now stealing the best part of £12 million before he retires..it is farcical unethical and a direct piss take of anyone that forwards £1 or more of their hard-earned wages to pay that ass-clown.
PS ..I really don't like him at all...just so you're clear . | |
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| Saints Revival on 20:13 - Sep 11 with 1569 views | Ron11 |
| Saints Revival on 20:08 - Sep 11 by saint68 |
I'll never give that record defeat (twice)
Record run without a win
Player alienating clown any credit,unless he leaves next week and walks away with no compensation or massive contract payout...
He's a fraud...and now stealing the best part of £12 million before he retires..it is farcical unethical and a direct piss take of anyone that forwards £1 or more of their hard-earned wages to pay that ass-clown.
PS ..I really don't like him at all...just so you're clear . |
It was noticeable that Nathan Redmond's leaving message mentioned and gave thanks to just about everybody at St. Mary's from the kit staff, cleaners to Semmens and many of those from the past.
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| Saints Revival on 20:24 - Sep 11 with 1562 views | saint68 |
| Saints Revival on 20:13 - Sep 11 by Ron11 |
It was noticeable that Nathan Redmond's leaving message mentioned and gave thanks to just about everybody at St. Mary's from the kit staff, cleaners to Semmens and many of those from the past.
But never mentioned Hassenhutl. |
It is no surprise Ron, he's caused a lot of grief behind the scenes with his bizarre behaviour...the day that Asstrian ponce disappears from our club the better...
No doubt the Cult of Ralph will crucify me again..but ..seriously..the bloke is a fraud...
Should of been jettisoned after that rainy night when we got embarrassed by Leicester.. | |
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| Saints Revival on 21:17 - Sep 11 with 1532 views | Butty101 |
| Saints Revival on 19:15 - Sep 11 by ElijahK |
But the stats don’t, as I’ve already proven when you last said all your waffle about Hughes.
And yeah so maybe our defence was a bit better under Hughes, but it certainly looks like we may currently have our best defence that we’ve had since Fonte left, from what they’ve shown since that Spurs game this season!
P.S A lot has changed since the 80’s and before, so I don’t think comparing how the league was back then to how it is today is fair for ether side, as the past is the past, and we’ve had our ups and downs, but unlike the skates we don’t just go on about it, as we like to look forward to the future and everything that it brings! |
Ah ok so all things before the premiership don’t count…..
Hughes has more managerial premiership success in one little finger than Ralph has in his entire body.
All my waffle 
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| Saints Revival on 22:08 - Sep 11 with 1507 views | ElijahK |
| Saints Revival on 20:08 - Sep 11 by saint68 |
I'll never give that record defeat (twice)
Record run without a win
Player alienating clown any credit,unless he leaves next week and walks away with no compensation or massive contract payout...
He's a fraud...and now stealing the best part of £12 million before he retires..it is farcical unethical and a direct piss take of anyone that forwards £1 or more of their hard-earned wages to pay that ass-clown.
PS ..I really don't like him at all...just so you're clear . |
Well it’s lucky that your not the one in charge so you don’t need to like Ralph or we’d be ending up like Chelsea! The only difference is that we wouldn’t have the money to save us, so would probably end up getting relegated rather than winning the champions league! | |
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| Saints Revival on 22:26 - Sep 11 with 1496 views | Butty101 |
| Saints Revival on 22:06 - Sep 11 by ElijahK |
But we’re not talking about how they’ve done in the prem, we’re talking about how they did here (so just more waffle added to that long ass list of yours!).
Still good to see that you still can’t make a valid point
P.S what happened to all those “facts” of yours with how Hughes was better in the cups/had a better record etc? [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 22:09]
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Hughes got us to a semifinal in the one season he completed with us. So my fact remains correct. He has a better record in the cups. Jesus Ralph gets a plum semi final draw and we can’t even manage a shot on target. That’s the problem with keeping on a manager that’s been dicked 9-0 .
Can’t remember us losing by those margins under Hughes.
You should change your user name to saint waffle.
Even in Ralph’s best season, he needed a lock down to stop the rot. Before that we were on one his now famous runs, despite having the 12th biggest wage bill | |
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| Saints Revival on 22:37 - Sep 11 with 1482 views | ElijahK |
| Saints Revival on 22:26 - Sep 11 by Butty101 |
Hughes got us to a semifinal in the one season he completed with us. So my fact remains correct. He has a better record in the cups. Jesus Ralph gets a plum semi final draw and we can’t even manage a shot on target. That’s the problem with keeping on a manager that’s been dicked 9-0 .
Can’t remember us losing by those margins under Hughes.
You should change your user name to saint waffle.
Even in Ralph’s best season, he needed a lock down to stop the rot. Before that we were on one his now famous runs, despite having the 12th biggest wage bill |
And by semi final you mean the one that Pellegrino got us to the quarters for where Hughes just had to beat Wigan, who I think were league 1 at the time, to make the Semi’s, which in the end he lost (so doesn’t sound that impressive). And no he doesn’t have a better record in the cups (ether FA/EFL or both combined), as I showed before. So your now just repeating the same waffle again 
And yeah we didn’t loose by those margins under hughes, so no your correct there, but I’m sure I can speak on the behalf of most saints fans when I say that I’d prefer to loose 9-0 twice over like 5 years then go down. And yeah so yet again you’ve got yet another excuse fir why you can’t give Ralph credit for when he has done well with us! I mean you lot are just soo predictable, as it’s not as if I’ve already said that you can’t ever give him credit and will always find a way around any good runs we have… | |
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| Saints Revival on 22:47 - Sep 11 with 1468 views | Ron11 |
| Saints Revival on 20:24 - Sep 11 by saint68 |
It is no surprise Ron, he's caused a lot of grief behind the scenes with his bizarre behaviour...the day that Asstrian ponce disappears from our club the better...
No doubt the Cult of Ralph will crucify me again..but ..seriously..the bloke is a fraud...
Should of been jettisoned after that rainy night when we got embarrassed by Leicester.. |
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| Saints Revival on 23:34 - Sep 11 with 1432 views | ElijahK |
| Saints Revival on 23:06 - Sep 11 by Butty101 |
Saint_Waffle it’s not my fault you can’t comprehend the arguments put before you.
With Hughes record we may well of had 4 semis in 4 years if he had been afforded the time like Ralph. After all that’s what he was averaging. I’m sure we wouldn’t have lost 9-0 under Hughes with the 12th biggest wage budget.
Reading this thread suggests most Saints fans cannot forgive him for the 9-0 defeats. It would have been a 3rd 9-0 but for Chelsea’s generosity last season. Maybe if you went to games rather than pretending to be a ref, you would show better judgement
Edit Ps Ralph hasn’t managed us for 5 years. It’s the simple things that let you down [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 23:08]
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I know your clearly not the brightest of sorts, but how does 1 win and 1 loss outta 2 FA Cup games suggest that we’d make any semis at all under him, as usually to make a semi you’d need to win like 4 games in a row, so doesn’t seem that likely to me.
And as someone who’s actually has a season ticket and goes to games regularly and has for many years, I’ve seen enough of saints to know that with the squad that we had, staying up was enough, although I guess that when someone as arrogant and unrealistic as yourself doesn’t go often, I’d understand of why you’d seem to expect us to be battling for Europe and making semi finals very frequently! And yeah I wish I pretended to be a ref, as then I wouldn’t have to work alongside many annoying and childish people like yourself that just never use logic (sheesh that sure would be one hell of a life!).
P.S I never said that Ralph had actually been managing us for 5 years, just that I’d prefer us to loose 9-0 twice over then, then going down! So yet again it’s the logic that lets you down… Logic_Denier! [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 23:36]
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| Saints Revival on 07:13 - Sep 12 with 1374 views | Butty101 |
| Saints Revival on 23:34 - Sep 11 by ElijahK |
I know your clearly not the brightest of sorts, but how does 1 win and 1 loss outta 2 FA Cup games suggest that we’d make any semis at all under him, as usually to make a semi you’d need to win like 4 games in a row, so doesn’t seem that likely to me.
And as someone who’s actually has a season ticket and goes to games regularly and has for many years, I’ve seen enough of saints to know that with the squad that we had, staying up was enough, although I guess that when someone as arrogant and unrealistic as yourself doesn’t go often, I’d understand of why you’d seem to expect us to be battling for Europe and making semi finals very frequently! And yeah I wish I pretended to be a ref, as then I wouldn’t have to work alongside many annoying and childish people like yourself that just never use logic (sheesh that sure would be one hell of a life!).
P.S I never said that Ralph had actually been managing us for 5 years, just that I’d prefer us to loose 9-0 twice over then, then going down! So yet again it’s the logic that lets you down… Logic_Denier! [Post edited 11 Sep 2022 23:36]
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Saint_waffle you are all over the place… the moment you start calling people thick or making things up that you think people said, you have lost.
E.g Come back when you can show me where I said we should be batting for Europe every year. | |
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| Saints Revival on 11:07 - Sep 12 with 1317 views | ElijahK |
| Saints Revival on 07:13 - Sep 12 by Butty101 |
Saint_waffle you are all over the place… the moment you start calling people thick or making things up that you think people said, you have lost.
E.g Come back when you can show me where I said we should be batting for Europe every year. |
Oh so if your not expecting us to make Europe then why are you always complaining about Ralph and never seem to be satisfied with whatever it is he does? As if you don’t expect Europe then I don’t see what else he can do other than finishing where we have… so make up your mind then, were you expecting Europe and semi finals like every other season previously, or were you expecting to simply stay up like we did?
Also I just love it how your now saying I’m the ones making stuff up, when throughout this thread all you’ve done is “made up” stats or “facts” about Hughes (basically all of which I’ve proven wrong) or for what I’d said (as I’m still waiting to see where I’d said that Ralph has been in charge for 5 years or how Hughes had a better cup record than Ralph), but look you can keep being a hypocrite, Logic_Denier, as like I’ve said previously I’ve got work with hypocrites like yourself all the time through the “made up” officiating I do [Post edited 12 Sep 2022 11:08]
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| Saints Revival on 11:52 - Sep 12 with 1295 views | DorsetIan |
| Saints Revival on 09:58 - Sep 11 by SaintNick |
If the new owners didn't want input from Hasenhuttl then why didn't they just sack him, if you think that the owners put in all these new coaching staff without his consent, then they would be the one's that are clueless.
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Fast and loose.
The first of those isn't a fact.
We know that Gao didn't put money into Saints.
We don't know that he couldn't. He may have chosen not to, for all we know.
And if you were to trawl the internet looking for evidence that Gao 'could not' put money into the club, the vast majoriy of that evidence would be unsubstantiated assertions made by you on here. | |
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| Saints Revival on 12:18 - Sep 12 with 1281 views | SaintNick |
| Saints Revival on 22:26 - Sep 11 by Butty101 |
Hughes got us to a semifinal in the one season he completed with us. So my fact remains correct. He has a better record in the cups. Jesus Ralph gets a plum semi final draw and we can’t even manage a shot on target. That’s the problem with keeping on a manager that’s been dicked 9-0 .
Can’t remember us losing by those margins under Hughes.
You should change your user name to saint waffle.
Even in Ralph’s best season, he needed a lock down to stop the rot. Before that we were on one his now famous runs, despite having the 12th biggest wage bill |
Hughes managed Saints in two FA cup ties, one in the quarter finals when we beat Wigan and the other the semi final against Chelsea, so I wouldn't say he had a better record than Ralph.
You say we had a plum semi final tie, we played Leicester who finished in 5th place only one point behind Chelsea whom they beat in the final also 1-0.
It is very convenient to use the "we didn't have a shot on target" line to slag off Ralph, but truth was that was the game Leicester played, sat with everyone behind the ball and tried to catch us on the break, they scored from a shot going wide and hitting Vestergaard to set up their only shot on target in the game too.
Likewise in the final they scored the only goal of the game from their only shot on target as well, the fact that we had lost 9-0 to them 18 months earlier was neither here nor there, just 2 1/2 months after that defeat we beat them 2-1 in the League at their place and we had also lost 2-0 up there a few months before the semi final, that game seeing them only get their 2nd in injury time as we pushed forward.
So Ralph had no reason to feat Leicester when we went to Wembley, fact is they stopped us getting in chances on target as they did against Chelsea in the final.
You keep harping on about the 9-0 defeat, individual defeats are just that , the bigger picture matters more.
Lawrie McMenemy's teams usually got a thrashing at least once a season, how did he keep his job in 1980 when we got beaten 7-1 away by 2nd division Watford , if you were around then were you calling for him to be sacked ?
Back in 2020, whilst you are right we lost the 2 League games prior to lockdown, we had also beaten Villa at home in the one prior to that and then before that lost 2 (One at league leaders Liverpool) prior to that we had won 5 drawn 1 and lost only once in the previous 7, so to recap, in the 12 games up to lockdown we had won 6 drawn 1 and lost 5 games , 19 points from 12 games hardly a rot
Sorry but you will look for any excuse to slag off Hasenhuttl, I can accept that you have the right to do that, but what i find hard to accept is that, you also have blamed the previous owners for a lack of investment, that was a major part of our lack of consistency in Ralph's first 3 years, now that has changed but you can't give the manager a chance to show he can do things now the purse strings have been loosened, if things go well there is always a reason that doesn't involve Ralph, when we got dicked at Spurs in the first game, it was Ralph's fault not his new coaching staff lol
Just give him a chance to show that he has what it takes, he kept us in the Premier League with virtually no money or coaching staff give him some credit |  |
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Hughes managed Saints in two FA cup ties, one in the quarter finals when we beat Wigan and the other the semi final against Chelsea, so I wouldn't say he had a better record than Ralph.
You say we had a plum semi final tie, we played Leicester who finished in 5th place only one point behind Chelsea whom they beat in the final also 1-0.
It is very convenient to use the "we didn't have a shot on target" line to slag off Ralph, but truth was that was the game Leicester played, sat with everyone behind the ball and tried to catch us on the break, they scored from a shot going wide and hitting Vestergaard to set up their only shot on target in the game too.
Likewise in the final they scored the only goal of the game from their only shot on target as well, the fact that we had lost 9-0 to them 18 months earlier was neither here nor there, just 2 1/2 months after that defeat we beat them 2-1 in the League at their place and we had also lost 2-0 up there a few months before the semi final, that game seeing them only get their 2nd in injury time as we pushed forward.
So Ralph had no reason to feat Leicester when we went to Wembley, fact is they stopped us getting in chances on target as they did against Chelsea in the final.
You keep harping on about the 9-0 defeat, individual defeats are just that , the bigger picture matters more.
Lawrie McMenemy's teams usually got a thrashing at least once a season, how did he keep his job in 1980 when we got beaten 7-1 away by 2nd division Watford , if you were around then were you calling for him to be sacked ?
Back in 2020, whilst you are right we lost the 2 League games prior to lockdown, we had also beaten Villa at home in the one prior to that and then before that lost 2 (One at league leaders Liverpool) prior to that we had won 5 drawn 1 and lost only once in the previous 7, so to recap, in the 12 games up to lockdown we had won 6 drawn 1 and lost 5 games , 19 points from 12 games hardly a rot
Sorry but you will look for any excuse to slag off Hasenhuttl, I can accept that you have the right to do that, but what i find hard to accept is that, you also have blamed the previous owners for a lack of investment, that was a major part of our lack of consistency in Ralph's first 3 years, now that has changed but you can't give the manager a chance to show he can do things now the purse strings have been loosened, if things go well there is always a reason that doesn't involve Ralph, when we got dicked at Spurs in the first game, it was Ralph's fault not his new coaching staff lol
Just give him a chance to show that he has what it takes, he kept us in the Premier League with virtually no money or coaching staff give him some credit |
Spot on Nick, as I’m sure that if the game goes ahead for Friday, and we do play Villa, ether way they’ll find some way to criticise Ralph. As if we win 5-0 then it’ll all be down to his coaching Staff and one player having a wonder show of a game! Yet if we loose 5-0 it’ll always be completely his fault and no one else has a say in it at all.
As like you said, how they can blame Ralph for the inconsistency, when they’ve even agreed themselves that we didn’t get any investment, is just baffling, as ether we did get investment and there is no excuse for inconsistency and low finishes, or we didn’t get any and there is a major reason behind the inconsistency and low finishes. As they’ve always got some form or way to slag Ralph up, and would probably still have some way of doing so even if we were to win something this season. | |
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