| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? 17:02 - Dec 26 with 8343 views | KeithHaynes |
We are going to take an overnighter to dwell upon todays game and seek some information from behind the scenes as to what is happening. There wonāt be any match feedback until tomorrow. Suffice to say today was an absolute embarrassment. The players, despite one or two efforts, the chairman, his wacky sidekick, the club, the mess thatās seen a constant down turn in the ridiculous way these ābusinessmenā think they know best. People said Martin was a fraud ā¦
Swans fans keep happily clapping and singing āJohnny Hollins Barmy Armyā history is repeating it self.
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:25 - Dec 26 with 1928 views | owainglyndwr |
No heart from our players |  | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:26 - Dec 26 with 1928 views | Fireboy2 |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:18 - Dec 26 by grabsplatter |
Can't disagree with that |
They are here on a jolly GS, honestly, all their kids are in private schools being paid gir by the club, their mate levein has sent them over to take the p!ss out of the club knowing that they have no idea how to run a football club. |  | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:34 - Dec 26 with 1883 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:26 - Dec 26 by Fireboy2 |
They are here on a jolly GS, honestly, all their kids are in private schools being paid gir by the club, their mate levein has sent them over to take the p!ss out of the club knowing that they have no idea how to run a football club. |
That makes no sense and you know it. Besides that have only had 6 months in charge and the club while not performing well in not yet in relegation trouble.
The quality of the new manager will tell us a lot about future prospects. He will have to lead the team out of the slump. He should not expect to have the burden of carrying a fragile fan base as well. [Post edited 26 Dec 2023 20:35]
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:37 - Dec 26 with 1862 views | Boundy |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 17:43 - Dec 26 by vetchonian |
they weren't queuing around the block when we were a PL club so what makes you think there is someone willing to buy a failing Championship club whose only assets are players and no "real estate" apart from an Acadamy which has zero redevelopment potential.
Look at the current mess after we fans pushed for Duffs sacking....no manager.
If they decide to sell rather than wind us up which is what I think they would do recouping monies from the asset sales.....what happens whilst the club is on the market no injections of monies to prop us up as now.
This needs thinking about we are not in Lg2 or LG 1 with low budgets ... |
Do you honestly belive regardless of any signs of discontentment from the supporters that the yanks wouldn't drop us like a stone ,they will when the times suits them. Be under no illision of that once they've screwed what they can out of the Club they'll be off without a backwards glance . |  |
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:39 - Dec 26 with 1860 views | QJumpingJack |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:34 - Dec 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
That makes no sense and you know it. Besides that have only had 6 months in charge and the club while not performing well in not yet in relegation trouble.
The quality of the new manager will tell us a lot about future prospects. He will have to lead the team out of the slump. He should not expect to have the burden of carrying a fragile fan base as well. [Post edited 26 Dec 2023 20:35]
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we could well be in relegation trouble by 5pm on NYD.
Maybe the club should get Pearlman back? | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 21:30 - Dec 26 with 1767 views | Fireboy2 |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:34 - Dec 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
That makes no sense and you know it. Besides that have only had 6 months in charge and the club while not performing well in not yet in relegation trouble.
The quality of the new manager will tell us a lot about future prospects. He will have to lead the team out of the slump. He should not expect to have the burden of carrying a fragile fan base as well. [Post edited 26 Dec 2023 20:35]
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It's the truth and YOU know it. | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 21:31 - Dec 26 with 1764 views | KeithHaynes |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 18:21 - Dec 26 by vetchonian |
here is a thought Keith posts comparing this with the Silver Shield/Ninth floor times and the fans chanting "Johnny Hollins black and white army"....whilst the owners were siphoning funds....what happened next?
The protests or whatever actions Keith hints at led to them walking away selling the club for Ā£1 waht came next oh yes a certain Tony Petty is this waht we wish for again?
Haven't we learnt?
There are few if any folks out there who are minted and have a passion for football clubs the costs associated with them are crazy.
For.me the best solution is the owners and Coleman included recognising they need a Trevor Birch...though there are few of him around and them let them run the club with the "owners" acting as an old fashioned bank.manager back in the days where a business owner would seek the bank for investment or cash flow help the banknmanagwr understood the financial issues but also recognised the person's "technical/local" understanding.
With the right local management this could work |
Actually Iām referencing the supporters who didnāt listen and kept on happy clapping and we nearly lost our club. I saw it myself and from behind the scenes. | |
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 21:42 - Dec 26 with 1732 views | sw02sea |
I honestly think Martin has done us a big favour today. The amount of games this season that the opposition have squandered good opportunities in front of goal, has papered over the cracks that we all darenāt think about.
Thereās no thinking anymore, we know exactly where we are, deep in the brown stuff.
Itās going to be Patti pavilion time sooner than you think, if these shambolic, charlatans arenāt shown the door, the sooner the better.
Why are we paying these extortionist ie Coleman,Gude, Silverstein ect, an absolute fortune for their supposed business expertise, and we still donāt have a manager 3 weeks later ?
Iāll tell you why weāre paying them.
We arenāt.
Theyāre paying themselves.
Why has it taken so long for people to realise what these blood suckers are doing to our club ? | | | |
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 21:56 - Dec 26 with 1693 views | jacksfullaces |
just a couple of points and I will caveat it with the view I have always had that selling to these was a big mistake at the time, and footballing wise we have been on gentle spiral of decline for 5 or 6 years.
point 1 is a gentle reminder that everyone was happy with their spend over the Summer, its only subsequent performances that have now determined it was a 'bad spend'
point 2 is genuinely what do we expect to come that is better. No -one is going to inject immediate cash or quality, if anything it is likely we would have owners who would spend less, not more.
on the basis of the latter point it could be outweighed I guess if they put a good long term prospect in place who built things slowly. but we sort of had one of those in Martin and everyone got bored with him.
fact is if we are not winning, and getting the odd hiding, we assume there is a fairy godmother out there that will or would have done everything so much better.... | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 22:40 - Dec 26 with 1593 views | majorraglan |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 18:00 - Dec 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It was Jake Silverstein in the "Silverstein & Levien Show live from Burbank".
This was the last January window. "sorry about the bad window it will not happen again".
I have a good memory for these things.
The club is in a bit of a hole due to the failure of the "Watson dozen" to perform or even show up.
Fans must realise tough times are always around the corner. When Sousa was here thing were not great. He had lost Scotland sold, Gomez end of loan and Bodde through injury. Jazz Richards and Keri Morgan were forced into duty. Not much in the Academy ether.
The club brought in old stagers Kuqi, Craig Beattie, van de Gunn and Trundle back to steady the ship.
Swansea must have something to build off but cannot if filleted ever season by the loans returning. |
Sousa did very well to be fair, he doesnāt get the credit he deserved. | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 22:51 - Dec 26 with 1565 views | grabsplatter |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 21:56 - Dec 26 by jacksfullaces |
just a couple of points and I will caveat it with the view I have always had that selling to these was a big mistake at the time, and footballing wise we have been on gentle spiral of decline for 5 or 6 years.
point 1 is a gentle reminder that everyone was happy with their spend over the Summer, its only subsequent performances that have now determined it was a 'bad spend'
point 2 is genuinely what do we expect to come that is better. No -one is going to inject immediate cash or quality, if anything it is likely we would have owners who would spend less, not more.
on the basis of the latter point it could be outweighed I guess if they put a good long term prospect in place who built things slowly. but we sort of had one of those in Martin and everyone got bored with him.
fact is if we are not winning, and getting the odd hiding, we assume there is a fairy godmother out there that will or would have done everything so much better.... |
Regarding point 1 - saying everyone was happy with the summer transfer window just isn't true, there were plenty of us who were questioning the lack of a creative attacking midfielder.
I've no issue with the amount we spent, given the income/running costs deficit I'd say that it was fair.
What is unacceptable is the performance of our 'big money ' signings & that can only be judged once we've seen them playing.
Over Ā£2 million spent on each of Yates, Tymon & Khukarevic.
Yates has been poor, Tymon ordinary at best & Khukarevic barely seen at all. With our budget we just can't afford to get signings like those wrong.
None of us could make a judgement on the Ukrainian because we hadn't seen anything of him. |  | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 22:57 - Dec 26 with 1552 views | majorraglan |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club on 20:19 - Dec 26 by QJumpingJack |
From what I have been told by someone at another Championship club, Whitaker did not wish to stay with us.
Birch is badly missed at the club. He steadied the ship. He was a great communicator. And he appointed Cooper who led us to two play-offs.
Again I have no idea why Jase and Steve didn't make more of an effort to keep Birch. |
Iāve no inside track, but your comment re Whittaker doesnāt surprise me in the least. He was brought back to Swansea mid season, it seemed he was potentially available to Martin, but then wasnāt used, it looked like he was attracting interest from Ipswich then possibly Rangers then nothing and heās then staying with the Swans. I might be wrong, but I seem to recall he even made himself unavailable at one point, possibly after a move failed to happen?
Not knowing what was said etc, but putting oneself in Whittakerās shoes, if the above is correct I can understand why he might be unhappy and want out. | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 00:23 - Dec 27 with 1454 views | Robbie |
My Old fart opinion from the beloved North Bank .
A case now of Swansea Town , our town against any money making , quick buck profiteer .
History tells us there have been some colourful characters in the Boardroom bygone days .
The rot started in Petty , chuck in the Kevin Cullis era also .
At least some of the past figureheads , some with iffy CVs, tried their best and did keep The Swans afloat , local people , Mel Nurse leading at the front on one occasion .
Who runs our Club now , asset strippers and chancers from over the pond , no idea .
Life was so simple standing in line on the Vetch Field turnstiles , pay cash and buy a pasty .
Awful result against Southamton , Russell Martin must have been underneath ecstatic . | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 00:48 - Dec 27 with 1416 views | Fireboy2 |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 00:23 - Dec 27 by Robbie |
My Old fart opinion from the beloved North Bank .
A case now of Swansea Town , our town against any money making , quick buck profiteer .
History tells us there have been some colourful characters in the Boardroom bygone days .
The rot started in Petty , chuck in the Kevin Cullis era also .
At least some of the past figureheads , some with iffy CVs, tried their best and did keep The Swans afloat , local people , Mel Nurse leading at the front on one occasion .
Who runs our Club now , asset strippers and chancers from over the pond , no idea .
Life was so simple standing in line on the Vetch Field turnstiles , pay cash and buy a pasty .
Awful result against Southamton , Russell Martin must have been underneath ecstatic . |
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How I miss the NB. | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 01:11 - Dec 27 with 1397 views | BillyChong |
Coleman - no experience of running a club in this format.
Gude - no experience whatsoever in football.
One gets appointed and brings his golf buddy over for a job.
Recipe for disaster without going beyond the two of them.
Sleepwalking into a disaster. | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 09:41 - Dec 27 with 1199 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It doesnāt feel right to criticise the players too much for me. I donāt think thereās any real lack of effort just the club is set up to fail from the very top to the very bottom. We just arenāt doing the basics right on or off the pitch. Playing several players out of their natural positions, the formation is utterly bizarre. What coach looks at Jamie Paterson and Ollie cooper and thinks āhmm he would make a good pressing forward and will hold the ball up wellā? Weāre essentially playing with a two man midfield. Grimes and Fulton get a lot of stock but they have very little protection.
Who thinks sticking Liam Cullen on the right wing will result in chances galore? Or an inexperienced centre back at right back getting rinsed constantly by their left winger just left there without any help?
Whoever comes in just needs to get the basics right first. A system that suits the players we have. We have players who can hurt teams but they are being completely nullified by the way they are being asked to play. |  |
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 10:03 - Dec 27 with 1157 views | jack247 |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 09:41 - Dec 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It doesnāt feel right to criticise the players too much for me. I donāt think thereās any real lack of effort just the club is set up to fail from the very top to the very bottom. We just arenāt doing the basics right on or off the pitch. Playing several players out of their natural positions, the formation is utterly bizarre. What coach looks at Jamie Paterson and Ollie cooper and thinks āhmm he would make a good pressing forward and will hold the ball up wellā? Weāre essentially playing with a two man midfield. Grimes and Fulton get a lot of stock but they have very little protection.
Who thinks sticking Liam Cullen on the right wing will result in chances galore? Or an inexperienced centre back at right back getting rinsed constantly by their left winger just left there without any help?
Whoever comes in just needs to get the basics right first. A system that suits the players we have. We have players who can hurt teams but they are being completely nullified by the way they are being asked to play. |
Great post.
They did seem to give up yesterday, but other than that I completely agree. | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 10:10 - Dec 27 with 1139 views | onehunglow |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 10:03 - Dec 27 by jack247 |
Great post.
They did seem to give up yesterday, but other than that I completely agree. |
My opinion,they are broken.
Ok,I wonāt single out individuals BUT players need leadership and they have nine not off the pitch nor on it nor from the bench.
They continue to fail to do basic stuff . Watching our ā strikerā is painful.His body language alone should ring alarm bells .
Few players set out to lose ,none to play badly but for many seasons average ,mediocre players have been mucked about and what we are seeing now is the grotesque manifestation of it all.
It can be fixed however | |
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 10:29 - Dec 27 with 1096 views | jack247 |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 10:10 - Dec 27 by onehunglow |
My opinion,they are broken.
Ok,I wonāt single out individuals BUT players need leadership and they have nine not off the pitch nor on it nor from the bench.
They continue to fail to do basic stuff . Watching our ā strikerā is painful.His body language alone should ring alarm bells .
Few players set out to lose ,none to play badly but for many seasons average ,mediocre players have been mucked about and what we are seeing now is the grotesque manifestation of it all.
It can be fixed however |
Of course it can.
Play players to suit their skillsets, or at the very least play them in their natural positions. Key and Ashby injured, games like that are exactly why Naughton got an extension. Playing a talented but inexperienced, left footed centre back there is throwing him to the wolves.
Itās up there with Cullen on the wing. | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 17:49 - Dec 27 with 934 views | bennytheblue |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 10:29 - Dec 27 by jack247 |
Of course it can.
Play players to suit their skillsets, or at the very least play them in their natural positions. Key and Ashby injured, games like that are exactly why Naughton got an extension. Playing a talented but inexperienced, left footed centre back there is throwing him to the wolves.
Itās up there with Cullen on the wing. |
Donāt think you lot will sink but how come you havenāt got a manager yet?? Were they banking on the spurs guy? Going to be a tough season Iām sure like we had last year but alls not lost but hard to see how things can change with current ownership, who can they sell next? Or should you try and off them now? |  | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 18:02 - Dec 27 with 921 views | KeithHaynes |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 17:49 - Dec 27 by bennytheblue |
Donāt think you lot will sink but how come you havenāt got a manager yet?? Were they banking on the spurs guy? Going to be a tough season Iām sure like we had last year but alls not lost but hard to see how things can change with current ownership, who can they sell next? Or should you try and off them now? |
They wonāt pay for a decent manager mate, simple as. | |
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| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 18:48 - Dec 27 with 871 views | bennytheblue |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 18:02 - Dec 27 by KeithHaynes |
They wonāt pay for a decent manager mate, simple as. |
But you generally always find a decent one? Maybe not duff but Martin looks okā¦.canāt recall you lot getting two duffs in a row so to speak? Iām sure youāll find another but has the fortune run out?
As much as Iāve wanted a change of owner at our place, Tan has deep pockets, if he wants to keep paying for his mistakes itās up to him, Iām not sure your lot are quite the same? Would the bluebird from the valleys steady the ship? | | | |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 19:33 - Dec 27 with 829 views | jack247 |
| š“ Not fit to wear our clubs shirt and not fit to run our club ? on 17:49 - Dec 27 by bennytheblue |
Donāt think you lot will sink but how come you havenāt got a manager yet?? Were they banking on the spurs guy? Going to be a tough season Iām sure like we had last year but alls not lost but hard to see how things can change with current ownership, who can they sell next? Or should you try and off them now? |
Yes, they were banking on the Spurs guy. Seems like he was on a short list of one. They didnāt know how much the package would cost and baulked when they found out, hence we are where we are now.
The majority of us think they are incompetent and this is a cracking example of why. | | | |
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