| Is 65 too old to be called up 15:18 - Jan 15 with 4239 views | Boundy |
Hmmmm interesting & for a few, worrying times.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news |  |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 18:26 - Jan 17 with 908 views | oldtownjack |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 17:49 - Jan 17 by union_jack |
Sorry, are your lefty liberal feelings hurt? |
Why do you say I'm a lefty liberal? Are you a gammon then? Sorry, I forgot you're a proper citizen, I'd better watch out. My point remains, plenty to say over the last year about how shit the country is but not a peep for the 15 years before when the damage was done. | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 18:45 - Jan 17 with 859 views | Gwyn737 |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 23:50 - Jan 16 by Boundy |
Not my words
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Dear Keef Starmer,
This latest idea — recalling veterans up to 65 — isn’t policy. It’s panic. It’s what happens when a government realises too late that nobody believes in it, and instead of asking why, it reaches for the nearest generation that still remembers duty.
Let’s strip away the spin.
If young people won’t fight for you, that isn’t a failure of youth — it’s a damning indictment of leadership. You’ve spent years telling them Britain is broken, shameful, historically suspect, and morally inferior. You’ve taught them that patriotism is cringe, borders are optional, and the country itself is something to be managed, not loved.
And now you’re surprised they won’t bleed for it?
So your answer is to turn around and say to the old hands:
“Go on then, one more time.”
Men and women who already served.
Who already paid the price.
Who already carried the weight — physically and mentally — long after the uniforms came off.
Here’s the bit you fundamentally don’t understand, Keef:
they didn’t fight for politicians.
They didn’t fight for slogans, diversity statements, or focus-grouped values.
They fought for their mates, their families, their homes — for a country that meant something.
That country has been chipped away, mocked, diluted, apologised for, and managed into mediocrity by people like you. And now, when the cupboard is bare, you think you can knock on the door of the very people you helped discard and demand loyalty on command.
You can’t conscript belief.
You can’t recall pride.
And you sure as hell can’t outsource courage to men with replaced knees and broken backs because your government inspires none.
This isn’t strength.
It’s institutional cowardice — hiding behind past generations because you’ve failed the present one.
So let’s be crystal clear:
If the young won’t fight for you —
the old won’t either.
They already gave enough.
And they won’t be guilt-tripped into propping up a government that has no idea what Britain is, what it stands for, or why anyone should defend it.
You don’t have a recruitment problem.
You have a legitimacy problem.
And no amount grey hair, or nostalgic press releases will fix that |
As Keith posted earlier, since 2012 the army numbers have reduced from 180k to 109k
Blummin’ Starmer. | | | |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 19:38 - Jan 17 with 827 views | onehunglow |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 17:11 - Jan 17 by oldtownjack |
Go for it. What do you class as a 'proper citizen' ? It's a shame proper citizens like you didn't kick up this fuss over the lat 15 years during which time the country was truly shafted. |
Thing is Champ , things were unravelling before Trust me Tone
The Tories didn’t have the guts to put these lying bshittobg feckets to sleep
Now , we’re totally forked
Your Liebour heroes aren’t exactly trusted outside South Wales , Liverpool and Newcastle | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 20:17 - Jan 17 with 800 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 18:26 - Jan 17 by oldtownjack |
Why do you say I'm a lefty liberal? Are you a gammon then? Sorry, I forgot you're a proper citizen, I'd better watch out. My point remains, plenty to say over the last year about how shit the country is but not a peep for the 15 years before when the damage was done. |
The damage continues to be done. |  |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 20:22 - Jan 17 with 796 views | union_jack |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 20:17 - Jan 17 by KeithHaynes |
The damage continues to be done. |
And was done well before the last 15 years. And the culprit has still got a role to play in global politics! |  |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up (n/t) on 20:52 - Jan 17 with 784 views | oldtownjack |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 19:38 - Jan 17 by onehunglow |
Thing is Champ , things were unravelling before Trust me Tone
The Tories didn’t have the guts to put these lying bshittobg feckets to sleep
Now , we’re totally forked
Your Liebour heroes aren’t exactly trusted outside South Wales , Liverpool and Newcastle |
Champ? Wtf are you on about? I can't stand Tony Blair and Labour certainly aren't my heroes. I've moaned about them, plenty of times not least about the Iraq War. I say it as I see it and don't support a party like a football team no matter what, unlike you. You lot bang on about how shit things are as if it's all happend in the last year. You all voted for the shit show.
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 21:00 - Jan 17 with 775 views | oldtownjack |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 20:22 - Jan 17 by union_jack |
And was done well before the last 15 years. And the culprit has still got a role to play in global politics! |
Tony Blair? if so, can't stand the bloke. Should be in The Hague. [Post edited 17 Jan 21:01]
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 08:18 - Jan 18 with 696 views | Boundy |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 18:45 - Jan 17 by Gwyn737 |
As Keith posted earlier, since 2012 the army numbers have reduced from 180k to 109k
Blummin’ Starmer. |
I think you'll find its Starmer in charge at this moment in time not , Cameron, May or the myriad of other useless leaders we have in charge ,he's the one right now whose government are actively pursuing some veterans through the courts ,its his government who has shown to date they're not capable of stopping the boats ,who make it attractive for the illegals to want to come here in the first place by providing better living standards than his own citizens.
Yes lets blame Starmer because it'll be his policies which could see civilians in this country forced to fight and die in wars which has nothing to do with them but everything to show why politicians should be the first wearing uniform, and I don't mean just for photo opportunities'. | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 08:49 - Jan 18 with 675 views | builthjack |
You do know they are not calling up every 65 year old right?
It would be reservists who are signed up for it.
Same as USA, Germany,France, Poland etc.
Surprisingly to a lot who have commented on here, we are not all old and decrepit at 55. |  |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 09:34 - Jan 18 with 661 views | onehunglow |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 08:49 - Jan 18 by builthjack |
You do know they are not calling up every 65 year old right?
It would be reservists who are signed up for it.
Same as USA, Germany,France, Poland etc.
Surprisingly to a lot who have commented on here, we are not all old and decrepit at 55. |
And not even at 76
I reckon I could fell Ronald with one blow | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 09:36 - Jan 18 with 659 views | onehunglow |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 08:18 - Jan 18 by Boundy |
I think you'll find its Starmer in charge at this moment in time not , Cameron, May or the myriad of other useless leaders we have in charge ,he's the one right now whose government are actively pursuing some veterans through the courts ,its his government who has shown to date they're not capable of stopping the boats ,who make it attractive for the illegals to want to come here in the first place by providing better living standards than his own citizens.
Yes lets blame Starmer because it'll be his policies which could see civilians in this country forced to fight and die in wars which has nothing to do with them but everything to show why politicians should be the first wearing uniform, and I don't mean just for photo opportunities'. |
Get the impression Gwyn is a bit of a leftie  | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 13:00 - Jan 18 with 626 views | controversial_jack |
Relax, any future conflict won't be one of boots on the ground or mass troop movements, drones, missiles and artillery will make sure of that. | | | |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 13:35 - Jan 18 with 615 views | Boundy |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 08:49 - Jan 18 by builthjack |
You do know they are not calling up every 65 year old right?
It would be reservists who are signed up for it.
Same as USA, Germany,France, Poland etc.
Surprisingly to a lot who have commented on here, we are not all old and decrepit at 55. |
Yes I'm sure we do , I'm nearly 70 so it wont affect me but the sentiments still remain. | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up (n/t) on 13:59 - Jan 18 with 600 views | onehunglow |
| Is 65 too old to be called up (n/t) on 20:52 - Jan 17 by oldtownjack |
Champ? Wtf are you on about? I can't stand Tony Blair and Labour certainly aren't my heroes. I've moaned about them, plenty of times not least about the Iraq War. I say it as I see it and don't support a party like a football team no matter what, unlike you. You lot bang on about how shit things are as if it's all happend in the last year. You all voted for the shit show.
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Steady Tiger
Steady
Just offering an opinion
Now , if you don’t agree just say so
We are the Champions
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 15:53 - Jan 18 with 575 views | Gwyn737 |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 08:18 - Jan 18 by Boundy |
I think you'll find its Starmer in charge at this moment in time not , Cameron, May or the myriad of other useless leaders we have in charge ,he's the one right now whose government are actively pursuing some veterans through the courts ,its his government who has shown to date they're not capable of stopping the boats ,who make it attractive for the illegals to want to come here in the first place by providing better living standards than his own citizens.
Yes lets blame Starmer because it'll be his policies which could see civilians in this country forced to fight and die in wars which has nothing to do with them but everything to show why politicians should be the first wearing uniform, and I don't mean just for photo opportunities'. |
Do you think Starmer should have quickly replaced the 70,000 lost soldiers?
In the current climate, it looks like a sensible thing to do. Can’t do it quickly though and maybe the reservist plans will fill a gap? | | | |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 15:54 - Jan 18 with 571 views | Gwyn737 |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 09:36 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
Get the impression Gwyn is a bit of a leftie |
A soft leftie with some specific right of centre views. | | | |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 16:03 - Jan 18 with 565 views | Whiterockin |
Am I being nieve, but why comit to something you don't have the resources to safely provide. |  | | |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 17:36 - Jan 18 with 523 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 16:03 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
Am I being nieve, but why comit to something you don't have the resources to safely provide. |
I think we can be sure we have a Government that doesn't systematically work through an issue, as indicated by the number of times it changes course. |  |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 19:45 - Jan 18 with 479 views | onehunglow |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 15:54 - Jan 18 by Gwyn737 |
A soft leftie with some specific right of centre views. |
You’re ok
We disagree but you’re never offensive so have a cwtch  | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up (n/t) on 20:49 - Jan 18 with 457 views | oldtownjack |
| Is 65 too old to be called up (n/t) on 13:59 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
Steady Tiger
Steady
Just offering an opinion
Now , if you don’t agree just say so
We are the Champions
My friend |
Always steady mate.   | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 01:24 - Jan 19 with 408 views | Robbie |
Can still read a car number plate from the said distance as was back in the day .
Put my eyesight to the test in the crosshairs shoot out with the baddies , I am out .
Oldies treated as cannon fodder and colateral damage to hardened troops .
Another masterplan from our pathetic Goverment .
Sure there are lot of willing and able volunteers arriving across The Channel daily who will put their heads above the parapet . | | | |
| Is 65 too old to be called up (n/t) on 09:01 - Jan 19 with 354 views | onehunglow |
| Is 65 too old to be called up (n/t) on 20:49 - Jan 18 by oldtownjack |
Always steady mate. |
Good man
Be lucky | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 09:57 - Jan 19 with 343 views | Boundy |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 15:53 - Jan 18 by Gwyn737 |
Do you think Starmer should have quickly replaced the 70,000 lost soldiers?
In the current climate, it looks like a sensible thing to do. Can’t do it quickly though and maybe the reservist plans will fill a gap? |
What's sensible if at all possible is to rebuild the trust between Government and the people and not commit to overstretching an already depleted armed forces .Build properly not have a knee jerk policy which is laughable on paper and in practicable terms, what Starmer proposes is our very own version of Germanys Volkssturm, that worked out well for them.
In 2023 the MOD released figures showing that we had a total military strength of 190,170 total serving military personnel in the British Armed Forces, 18% of them are reservist and those numbers have fallen since. At the moment we would do well to protect our own country rather than overly commit to joining in protecting other nations. | |
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| Is 65 too old to be called up on 20:14 - Jan 19 with 281 views | Luther27 |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 15:53 - Jan 18 by Gwyn737 |
Do you think Starmer should have quickly replaced the 70,000 lost soldiers?
In the current climate, it looks like a sensible thing to do. Can’t do it quickly though and maybe the reservist plans will fill a gap? |
Only if the reservists turn up Gwyn. Most will probably be tied up waiting to see a GP or dentist etc. | | | |
| Is 65 too old to be called up on 13:46 - Jan 21 with 186 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Being in my early forties and relatively good for my age I’m definitely on the cusp of conscription age. In the event of an invasion/occupation I’d happily fight to protect these islands and the people and history on them but I would absolutely refuse to go and get slaughtered off in some far off land. F that. |  |
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