| Another team cheating? 08:49 - May 25 with 10251 views | stgranty |
So according to “ footballmartin” another championship team has been named as spying during the season just gone.
I have not heard this before, who could it be?
Obviously I hope it’s Portsmouth or maybe Wrexham would be funny. |  | | |  |
| Another team cheating? on 11:05 - May 27 with 1525 views | arfurdent |
| Another team cheating? on 09:04 - May 27 by SaintNick |
The offence does not specify the importance of the game, so the punishment for spying against say Oxford in a mid season game should be the same as spying against Boro in a play off semi |
Do not the EFL Rules say that only the offences that Steve Gibson wants punished will be addressed |  |
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| Another team cheating? on 11:09 - May 27 with 1494 views | DorsetIan |
| Another team cheating? on 09:04 - May 27 by SaintNick |
The offence does not specify the importance of the game, so the punishment for spying against say Oxford in a mid season game should be the same as spying against Boro in a play off semi |
A 'sporting' sanction in a league competition can reasonably include a points deduction, as the object of playing is to accumulate points.
In a knock-out competition, a points deduction would not even be possible. So what other 'sporting' sanction is possible apart from kicking a team out?
The sanctions necessarily have to be different.
That said, the idea that a 'sporting' sanction was necessary in this case is nonsense. Every infringement by a Club is intended to achieve an advantage in terms of sporting results e.g. Bielsa and Leeds, who were only fined.
Likewise, the sporting advantage sought or attained should be commensurate to the punishment imposed. |  |
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| Another team cheating? on 17:27 - May 27 with 1298 views | kentsouthampton |
| Another team cheating? on 09:53 - May 25 by dirk_doone |
It would be funny if they discovered half a dozen more doing it - the tip of the iceberg. As Pochettino said, it's no big deal and normal in other countries. It's just meticulous scouting. Teams willing to go the extra mile, literally.
Hopefully, cases of inside spying using undercover analysts to go to another club and find out information will also be revealed. [Post edited 25 May 9:57]
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Being able to drive at 200 miles an hour is OK in a lot of countries, good luck with doing that on the M27. |  | | |
| Another team cheating? on 17:31 - May 27 with 1294 views | kentsouthampton |
| Another team cheating? on 12:40 - May 25 by Ifonly |
Yes, what Steve Grant said was a bit stupid. He reckons that maybe Tonda didn't know it was illegal (!?) but then says we only did it because we didn't think we'd be caught. Well no, if we did it because we thought it was legal, why would we worry about being caught? It's pretty obvious we knew it was illegal.
Then he says that he knows "for a fact" that another club in the Championship does it because they didn't want to get involved when Boro contacted them. I can think of many reasons why a club wouldn't want to get involved. Pretty dumb to say "for a fact" that they were spying too. It's possible, but really there's no evidence at all. The only evidence we have is that of all the hundreds or thousands of ex employees out there, coaches, staff and players, no one has come forward to earn some money by telling what they know. The only whistleblower is ex SFC. Why would that be if this was happening at other clubs? If just one person comes forward and speaks then that might be a reason to think it happens. Until then, it's wishful thinking by Saints fans.
It's a good podcast, but sometimes it sounds like Steve Grant could do with a brain upgrade. [Post edited 25 May 12:44]
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Yep definitely horse shìt, as you said if anyone had info on this at another club there's a lot of money to be made selling your story. The fact not a single person has come forward speaks volumes, it also gives lie to the nonsense that "everyone does it" | | | |
| Another team cheating? on 18:40 - May 27 with 1215 views | darthvader |
| Another team cheating? on 10:20 - May 25 by Bridders2 |
I just put this on another post.
Good idea re. Hodgson.
We've had the biggest punishment in British football history, so you would hope the FA would take a slightly different view on Tonda, but if they did chuck him out I think we should keep him as an unpaid advisor. He wouldn't be in football in any official capacity but his knowledge of the players and tactics would be invaluable. |
And his knowledge of the opposition is always invaluable  |  |
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