| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:01 - Jun 30 with 1144 views | saints__fan__73 |
All the rubbish ones? |  |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:03 - Jun 30 with 1118 views | SaintNick |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:01 - Jun 30 by saints__fan__73 |
All the rubbish ones? |
Thank you for your informative and constructive contribution to this thread, as always it is much appreciated |  |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:06 - Jun 30 with 1108 views | arfurdent |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:03 - Jun 30 by SaintNick |
Thank you for your informative and constructive contribution to this thread, as always it is much appreciated |
I think 73s comment was accurate, the problem is spotting which of last seasons squad wasn't |  |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:07 - Jun 30 with 1102 views | saints__fan__73 |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:03 - Jun 30 by SaintNick |
Thank you for your informative and constructive contribution to this thread, as always it is much appreciated |
I like to provide some balance to your mindless optimism. | |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:09 - Jun 30 with 1097 views | SaintNick |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:06 - Jun 30 by arfurdent |
I think 73s comment was accurate, the problem is spotting which of last seasons squad wasn't |
The problem wasn't the quality of the squad, it was leadership both on and off the pitch, players like Salisu and Bella-Kotchap who barely broke sweat and who constantly left players unmarked are the subject of interest from big clus,
Bazunu got stick for the number of goals let in, but a hefty percentage were scored by someone unmarked from close range, so who is the poor player the keeper or the man who couldn't be bothered marking his man | |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:21 - Jun 30 with 1075 views | arfurdent |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:09 - Jun 30 by SaintNick |
The problem wasn't the quality of the squad, it was leadership both on and off the pitch, players like Salisu and Bella-Kotchap who barely broke sweat and who constantly left players unmarked are the subject of interest from big clus,
Bazunu got stick for the number of goals let in, but a hefty percentage were scored by someone unmarked from close range, so who is the poor player the keeper or the man who couldn't be bothered marking his man |
They were supposed to be highly paid professionals. Hiding behind the poor management excuse does not fly.
Think my former bosses would have accepted that because they were t0ssers I could do fook all. Never understood those who justify not being bothered to perform blaming it on others. [Post edited 30 Jun 2023 10:25]
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:45 - Jun 30 with 1052 views | Butty101 |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:09 - Jun 30 by SaintNick |
The problem wasn't the quality of the squad, it was leadership both on and off the pitch, players like Salisu and Bella-Kotchap who barely broke sweat and who constantly left players unmarked are the subject of interest from big clus,
Bazunu got stick for the number of goals let in, but a hefty percentage were scored by someone unmarked from close range, so who is the poor player the keeper or the man who couldn't be bothered marking his man |
Nick the squad was poor, i really cant understand how you believe its a decent squad. It came bottom by a distance and lost to Grismby at home. The evidence is pretty damming. |  |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:46 - Jun 30 with 1051 views | PatfromPoole |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:09 - Jun 30 by SaintNick |
The problem wasn't the quality of the squad, it was leadership both on and off the pitch, players like Salisu and Bella-Kotchap who barely broke sweat and who constantly left players unmarked are the subject of interest from big clus,
Bazunu got stick for the number of goals let in, but a hefty percentage were scored by someone unmarked from close range, so who is the poor player the keeper or the man who couldn't be bothered marking his man |
The keeper if the shot or header is straight at him, like Lallana’s header and a number of other shots. |  |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 11:26 - Jun 30 with 1016 views | saints__fan__73 |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:09 - Jun 30 by SaintNick |
The problem wasn't the quality of the squad, it was leadership both on and off the pitch, players like Salisu and Bella-Kotchap who barely broke sweat and who constantly left players unmarked are the subject of interest from big clus,
Bazunu got stick for the number of goals let in, but a hefty percentage were scored by someone unmarked from close range, so who is the poor player the keeper or the man who couldn't be bothered marking his man |
Incorrect. It was the quality of the squad. That's why we were by some distance the worst team in the PL over 38 games.
The players signed just were not good enough. (the younger ones may be later in their careers but were not last season). | |
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 11:54 - Jun 30 with 990 views | Southamptonfan |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 10:09 - Jun 30 by SaintNick |
The problem wasn't the quality of the squad, it was leadership both on and off the pitch, players like Salisu and Bella-Kotchap who barely broke sweat and who constantly left players unmarked are the subject of interest from big clus,
Bazunu got stick for the number of goals let in, but a hefty percentage were scored by someone unmarked from close range, so who is the poor player the keeper or the man who couldn't be bothered marking his man |
Nick what exactly is it you are trying to say? The defeat to league two Grimsby was because of a tactical issue? Or players were purposely not trying because they weren't motivated (because they weren't being led properly as you put it)? Adams handles the ball into net at Wolves from.one yard out and that's because he wasn't being led properly? Or is Adams himself a dopy donkey for that? In which case it's because he isn't good enough, right? When players left players unmarked, are you saying it's because our managers told them to just stand there and not mark players? Or did they have an attitude problem in which case the problem is with the player himself not the leadership. Romeu was a miss in the team because he was a better, more experienced, more aggressive player than anything we had. You have mentioned many times about the lack of leaders inthe team. So the quality of leaders we had on the pitch was lacking because the squad wasn't good enough and it wasn't good enough because we didn't have leaders on the pitch, we didn't have enough experience and we didn't have enough quality to.win games. [Post edited 30 Jun 2023 12:03]
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| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 11:58 - Jun 30 with 983 views | saint901 |
The question is not how poor were we last season (and the answer was "very" in every department from ownership, strategy, management and players), but how many players will we have in the coming season.
Firstly of course, it depends on whether any of them are wanted by another club and whether the price offered is enough. I'd say JWP and Lavia might well go.
Secondly, what does the new manager want? He plays a possession based game and therefore will want players who can pass, move, pass, move and who can keep the ball. He's not so interested in a game that sees players carrying the ball forward at their feet. That seems to say that Tino and KWP and perhaps AA are going to struggle with the system and may not get game time and therefore might see an exit.
Thirdly, do the players want to play? We've already seen tantrums from Salisu and Bednarek and others. In an ideal world, the club would tell them to be professional or if they don't want to be, don't play them but prevent them leaving for another club. However, the world is not ideal and a mardy tart unwilling to play at 100% is best shipped out.
Lastly, are we going to see the owners continue to press the manager to play inexperienced and unsuitable players just to increase their game minutes in the hope of making them more valuable? I hope not, but frankly they're not asking my opinion. I hear much about Ballard but have never seen him play. If he is young and gifted however, would I pitch him into a tough league without some form of gradual introduction etc?
Perhaps a starting line up, game 1, might be
McCarthy (heaven help us)
Bree
Caletta-Car
Bella Kotchap (made of glass) or Lyanco
Perraud
Aribo
Alcaraz
Diallo
Edozie
Adams
Onuachu | | | |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 12:04 - Jun 30 with 968 views | saints__fan__73 |
| How Many Of The Southampton Squad Will Still Be Here After Transfer Window on 11:58 - Jun 30 by saint901 |
The question is not how poor were we last season (and the answer was "very" in every department from ownership, strategy, management and players), but how many players will we have in the coming season.
Firstly of course, it depends on whether any of them are wanted by another club and whether the price offered is enough. I'd say JWP and Lavia might well go.
Secondly, what does the new manager want? He plays a possession based game and therefore will want players who can pass, move, pass, move and who can keep the ball. He's not so interested in a game that sees players carrying the ball forward at their feet. That seems to say that Tino and KWP and perhaps AA are going to struggle with the system and may not get game time and therefore might see an exit.
Thirdly, do the players want to play? We've already seen tantrums from Salisu and Bednarek and others. In an ideal world, the club would tell them to be professional or if they don't want to be, don't play them but prevent them leaving for another club. However, the world is not ideal and a mardy tart unwilling to play at 100% is best shipped out.
Lastly, are we going to see the owners continue to press the manager to play inexperienced and unsuitable players just to increase their game minutes in the hope of making them more valuable? I hope not, but frankly they're not asking my opinion. I hear much about Ballard but have never seen him play. If he is young and gifted however, would I pitch him into a tough league without some form of gradual introduction etc?
Perhaps a starting line up, game 1, might be
McCarthy (heaven help us)
Bree
Caletta-Car
Bella Kotchap (made of glass) or Lyanco
Perraud
Aribo
Alcaraz
Diallo
Edozie
Adams
Onuachu |
Not a chance ABK will be here. I doubt he will even be expected to turn up for preseason. | |
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