| Tonda sacked in the next few days? 13:13 - May 21 with 3716 views | saints__fan__73 |
Would assume so. He'll be getting a ban from the FA investigation anmyway. |  |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 13:23 - May 21 with 2992 views | saintpaz |
yup either banned or sacked, needs to be done soon though |  | | |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 13:32 - May 21 with 2949 views | shotters |
If he's banned, along with anyone else, I would imagine we'll be firing them for gross misconduct and not have to pay any severance
Need to save as much money as possible, I would image that KC's bill for yesterday will be eye wateringly expensive |  |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 13:35 - May 21 with 2940 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 13:32 - May 21 by shotters |
If he's banned, along with anyone else, I would imagine we'll be firing them for gross misconduct and not have to pay any severance
Need to save as much money as possible, I would image that KC's bill for yesterday will be eye wateringly expensive |
I would imagine it would be an actual sacking for gross misconduct as opposed to the usual use of the word sacking in terms of managers when it actually just means relieved of duties but continuing to be paid. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 13:50 - May 21 with 2849 views | saintpaz |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 13:35 - May 21 by saints__fan__73 |
I would imagine it would be an actual sacking for gross misconduct as opposed to the usual use of the word sacking in terms of managers when it actually just means relieved of duties but continuing to be paid. |
yeah he won't be getting a penny | | | |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 14:14 - May 21 with 2775 views | saint22 |
No reason to wait
Gross misconduct damaged reputation
Needs firing before the weeks out |  | | |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 14:55 - May 21 with 2686 views | yateleysaint |
I’m surprised it’s taking this long.
I always knew there was something off about him.
I just couldn’t put my finger on it and gave him the benefit of the doubt. |  |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:10 - May 21 with 2641 views | dirk_doone |
"Not a big issue"
Bielsa won the Championship with Leeds the following season, and was named Championship Manager of the Year:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
https://www.skysports.com/foot
Even with the new 72-hour rule, the moralising and double standards are ridiculous. |  |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:29 - May 21 with 2585 views | Bridders2 |
Spot on. Bielsa had worse record on spying but stayed in his job and got Leeds promoted the next season.
On Talksport today Jordan and their guest lawyer were both saying the punishment was ludicrous in respect of the Leeds decision in 2019. They were talking a £10m fine as appropriate.
Keep Tonda and everything together as much as possible.
Any Championship manager that can beat Arsenal and scare the pants off Man City (without cheating) is worth fighting to keep. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:32 - May 21 with 2562 views | Bridders2 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 14:14 - May 21 by saint22 |
No reason to wait
Gross misconduct damaged reputation
Needs firing before the weeks out |
It's crap like this that make people want to call you Blobby. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:34 - May 21 with 2554 views | dirk_doone |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:32 - May 21 by Bridders2 |
It's crap like this that make people want to call you Blobby. |
The reason he gets called that is because most people suspect that he's a Pompey fan. He masks it well, but at times like this he lets the mask slip, | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:35 - May 21 with 2545 views | saints__fan__73 |
Leeds did it when a rule didn't exist which is the big difference.
Eckhart must be an utter moron to have allowed this to go on.
Are you really saying we shouldn't sack him?
We've no choice, he's going to get a lengthy world wide ban from the game from the FA so if we kept him we would have most of next season with another manager anyway. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:36 - May 21 with 2540 views | shotters |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:29 - May 21 by Bridders2 |
Spot on. Bielsa had worse record on spying but stayed in his job and got Leeds promoted the next season.
On Talksport today Jordan and their guest lawyer were both saying the punishment was ludicrous in respect of the Leeds decision in 2019. They were talking a £10m fine as appropriate.
Keep Tonda and everything together as much as possible.
Any Championship manager that can beat Arsenal and scare the pants off Man City (without cheating) is worth fighting to keep. |
I agree to a point with TE
BUT
The decision will be taken out of our hands, the FA want blood and to show how tough they are against any sort of wrong doing. Saints are the perfect club to do this to. The court of public opinion has ruled that we're cheats of the worst kind in the history of football and must be punished accordingly.
He'll get a lengthy ban, probably at least a year and will probably go back to Germany and get another job when that's ended [Post edited 21 May 15:40]
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:45 - May 21 with 2497 views | Bridders2 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:36 - May 21 by shotters |
I agree to a point with TE
BUT
The decision will be taken out of our hands, the FA want blood and to show how tough they are against any sort of wrong doing. Saints are the perfect club to do this to. The court of public opinion has ruled that we're cheats of the worst kind in the history of football and must be punished accordingly.
He'll get a lengthy ban, probably at least a year and will probably go back to Germany and get another job when that's ended [Post edited 21 May 15:40]
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If he does get a ban find a way of using him as a consultant and then bring him back when the bans expired. We'll probably have another unless coach anyway with our record.
There is a way round everything. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:54 - May 21 with 2463 views | PatfromPoole |
Any club with a future association with Eckert will forever have a cloud of suspicion on them that they have been cheating.
He isn't going to change his ways. He has been into football analysis for many a year. |  |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:02 - May 21 with 2434 views | shotters |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:45 - May 21 by Bridders2 |
If he does get a ban find a way of using him as a consultant and then bring him back when the bans expired. We'll probably have another unless coach anyway with our record.
There is a way round everything. |
Pat has just made the first point I was going to make
Also worth bearing in mind the players view in all of this
I would imagine the first team squad are pretty pissed off right now, are those who are still here going to want to work with him anymore?
As we saw with Will Still, if the players don't like or rate you, you aint gonna last long | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:30 - May 21 with 2290 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:35 - May 21 by saints__fan__73 |
Leeds did it when a rule didn't exist which is the big difference.
Eckhart must be an utter moron to have allowed this to go on.
Are you really saying we shouldn't sack him?
We've no choice, he's going to get a lengthy world wide ban from the game from the FA so if we kept him we would have most of next season with another manager anyway. |
Can the FA ban him world wide? He's not even a British national unless there is a unilateral agreement between all associations through FIFA |  |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:36 - May 21 with 2262 views | kernow |
They may want to set an example and show how tough they are?
Considering how they’ve shown their toughness towards the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea?
This is a joke, yes? | | | |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:43 - May 21 with 2242 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:30 - May 21 by kingslandstand1 |
Can the FA ban him world wide? He's not even a British national unless there is a unilateral agreement between all associations through FIFA |
Which there is. All bans from national governing bodies are applicable everywhere. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:44 - May 21 with 2239 views | Bridders2 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:54 - May 21 by PatfromPoole |
Any club with a future association with Eckert will forever have a cloud of suspicion on them that they have been cheating.
He isn't going to change his ways. He has been into football analysis for many a year. |
He won't cheat again, that I can assure you. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:48 - May 21 with 2218 views | saint22 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 15:34 - May 21 by dirk_doone |
The reason he gets called that is because most people suspect that he's a Pompey fan. He masks it well, but at times like this he lets the mask slip, |
So wrong
The guy cheated and committed gross misconduct not once but at least three times
In any other profession you are gone | | | |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:55 - May 21 with 2179 views | saintpaz |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:48 - May 21 by saint22 |
So wrong
The guy cheated and committed gross misconduct not once but at least three times
In any other profession you are gone |
and most likely a lot more | | | |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:56 - May 21 with 2174 views | Bridders2 |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:02 - May 21 by shotters |
Pat has just made the first point I was going to make
Also worth bearing in mind the players view in all of this
I would imagine the first team squad are pretty pissed off right now, are those who are still here going to want to work with him anymore?
As we saw with Will Still, if the players don't like or rate you, you aint gonna last long |
I'd guess the players are pissed off with him, but they recognise that he beat and matched Arsenal and City (without cheating). For the first time in years they played under a coach that got nearly every decision right and they fought for him. He can bring them success again or we throw the dice with another journeyman. | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:58 - May 21 with 2158 views | saintpaz |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:56 - May 21 by Bridders2 |
I'd guess the players are pissed off with him, but they recognise that he beat and matched Arsenal and City (without cheating). For the first time in years they played under a coach that got nearly every decision right and they fought for him. He can bring them success again or we throw the dice with another journeyman. |
you guess the players are peed off? I think it's safe to say they ARE mighty peed off.
I doubt hardly any of them would want to play under Tonda again (unless they knew about it) and that's why his position is untenable. | | | |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 17:02 - May 21 with 2145 views | shotters |
| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 16:36 - May 21 by kernow |
They may want to set an example and show how tough they are?
Considering how they’ve shown their toughness towards the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea?
This is a joke, yes? |
Fraid not K
Nick Robinson made this exact point on the Today program yesterday when he interviewed David Bernstein
They'll always pick on the "smaller" clubs as they can. Ask QPR or Luton fans | |
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| Tonda sacked in the next few days? on 17:09 - May 21 with 2120 views | kernow |
So they could demote Saints and reinstate Oxford perhaps? | | | |
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