| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread 12:59 - May 11 with 6476 views | SaintNick |
Nothing like getting in the thread early |  |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:18 - May 11 with 1290 views | dirk_doone |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:08 - May 11 by Centurion |
40 points. Safe at last!!! |
We are 14th and 13 points clear of the bottom 3. We should be aiming to finish 12th. |  |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:29 - May 11 with 1221 views | green |
Credit due for decent performance. Feared the worst after going a goal down so early but a fully deserved 3 points. |  | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:34 - May 11 with 1200 views | Ingskneeslide |
What a bunch of whining fannies some of you are, we’d almost certainly have been relegated if you had been allowed to go to games. Good performance tonight, much closer to 2020 standards |  | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:43 - May 11 with 1158 views | dirk_doone |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:34 - May 11 by Ingskneeslide |
What a bunch of whining fannies some of you are, we’d almost certainly have been relegated if you had been allowed to go to games. Good performance tonight, much closer to 2020 standards |
The worst one is 130 with his latest make believe Saints fan username. If you really want to see endless whining on match threads, you should take a look at the Little Pompey and Liverpool messageboards. What you have to remember on here is that there are always at least 2 Pompey fans pretending to be Sainst fans. They really are that obsessed. [Post edited 11 May 2021 22:46]
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:48 - May 11 with 1135 views | Sadoldgit |
What a quality player Danny Ings is. |  | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:50 - May 11 with 1122 views | dirk_doone |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:48 - May 11 by Sadoldgit |
What a quality player Danny Ings is. |
He really is. We would be on our way to Europe now if he hadn't been injured. When I saw that he was in the starting lineup, I thought oh good we'll be winning again. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:54 - May 11 with 1104 views | DorsetIan |
Much better performance. Minamino's best game so far. And the whole team more imaginative and energetic in attack.
For me, Redmond was the only weak link. It wasn't his worse game but every time he got the ball he paused and we lost a second of momentum.
Glad to hear Ralph acknowledge at the end that we don't have a strong enough squad. Interesting to see whether he will be able to insist that the club does something about that. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 23:34 - May 11 with 1048 views | Bison |
A shout out for our 2 centre midfielders tonight , JWP and Armstrong worked well in unison tonight. JWP got forward alot and SA stayed put , then Armstrong powered forward and JWP stayed put. We never got exploited down the wings either. Our strongest midfield would be JWP , SA and Romeu when fit. KWP on right no question so a decent left wing back and keep Ings I think we ok. Controversial but I would keep Che Mc'Adams for another season if we keep Ings.
3-2-3-2 formation could be our new blueprint. We have players , apart from left side to do that
3 - Veste , Bednarek , Salisu ( Stephens back up )
2 - KWP (r) , Pick a winger we have on books (L)
3 - JWP , Romeu ,Armstrong
2 - Ings , Adams.
Run at the oppositions centre halves and get free kicks and corners , we have the best dead ball specialist in the PL on our books , our wingers are not good enough just attack straight down the middle and let Captain fantastic do his stuff , eh I_Ward ? |  |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 05:27 - May 12 with 900 views | Berber |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 22:54 - May 11 by DorsetIan |
Much better performance. Minamino's best game so far. And the whole team more imaginative and energetic in attack.
For me, Redmond was the only weak link. It wasn't his worse game but every time he got the ball he paused and we lost a second of momentum.
Glad to hear Ralph acknowledge at the end that we don't have a strong enough squad. Interesting to see whether he will be able to insist that the club does something about that. |
I would say that Minamino played better than for weeks, but was still poor. He gave the ball away far too often. He isn't good enough for us, and that is not to be wearing rose tinted specs about our level. He doesn't add any more value than Walcott.
Redmond, who I have been critical of for a lot of the season made some telling contributions. Often, he was in really good positions, but the ball came to him too late, or not in front of him, forcing him to hold back or even turn back. |  |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 07:59 - May 12 with 814 views | saint22 |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 05:27 - May 12 by Berber |
I would say that Minamino played better than for weeks, but was still poor. He gave the ball away far too often. He isn't good enough for us, and that is not to be wearing rose tinted specs about our level. He doesn't add any more value than Walcott.
Redmond, who I have been critical of for a lot of the season made some telling contributions. Often, he was in really good positions, but the ball came to him too late, or not in front of him, forcing him to hold back or even turn back. |
Minamino is poor, he needs returning, he is so lightweight and cannot hold the ball up at all, as for his passing.....or lack of
Redmnd was infuriating again, looked better against Liverpool but today was back to his wasteful best, i just dont understand him. Even his cross to Ings was made to look good due to Dannys skill
It was a good reaction after the second minute though and the team looked to have more purpose and idea, no coincidence Danny was back leading the line | | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 08:27 - May 12 with 792 views | DorsetIan |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 05:27 - May 12 by Berber |
I would say that Minamino played better than for weeks, but was still poor. He gave the ball away far too often. He isn't good enough for us, and that is not to be wearing rose tinted specs about our level. He doesn't add any more value than Walcott.
Redmond, who I have been critical of for a lot of the season made some telling contributions. Often, he was in really good positions, but the ball came to him too late, or not in front of him, forcing him to hold back or even turn back. |
I’ve got it into my head now that Redmond slows down our attacks. He is so often the one putting on the brakes that maybe this is all I see. But I see it an awful lot. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 09:17 - May 12 with 768 views | SaintNick |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 07:59 - May 12 by saint22 |
Minamino is poor, he needs returning, he is so lightweight and cannot hold the ball up at all, as for his passing.....or lack of
Redmnd was infuriating again, looked better against Liverpool but today was back to his wasteful best, i just dont understand him. Even his cross to Ings was made to look good due to Dannys skill
It was a good reaction after the second minute though and the team looked to have more purpose and idea, no coincidence Danny was back leading the line |
I took a look at the first goal again, it would be easy to say Redmond's cross was poor because Ings produced such a good turn and finish, but if you look at the replay, Ings had four defenders around him, there wasn't a lot of space to put the ball into, certainly not anything behind the man marking ings, so he did all that could be asked, he got the ball into Ing's feet.
Watching the 90 in 90 on the official website Redmond made several telling contributions, the assist for Ings as well as a good chance himself well saved by the keeper and he set up Adams for a similar chance.
Some will only point to when he doesn't produce, but no player makes a telling contribution with every kick not even Danny Ings, however last night Redmond did a good job, he had an assist and but for two good saves that could have been 1 goal and 2 assists.
Redmond has an end product, even playing badly he will create at least one decent chance for someone, but he is the scapegoat so some never want to see the good in him | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 09:29 - May 12 with 760 views | grumpy |
Redmond looked a threat all game.
He's not frightened to lose the ball and always has a go, one of our best players last night. |  | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 09:36 - May 12 with 750 views | City_boy |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 09:29 - May 12 by grumpy |
Redmond looked a threat all game.
He's not frightened to lose the ball and always has a go, one of our best players last night. |
He's certainly not frightened to lose the ball :) | | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 10:28 - May 12 with 729 views | Sadoldgit |
I thought we looked more like the team who were flying in 2020 last night. Everyone put in a shift and we worked hard together both in defence and attack. No one was “on the beach” and the heads didn’t drop after going behind do early. There has been much to complain about this year both you’d have to be particularly hard to please if you weren’t happy with our performance. | | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:10 - May 12 with 711 views | DorsetIan |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 09:17 - May 12 by SaintNick |
I took a look at the first goal again, it would be easy to say Redmond's cross was poor because Ings produced such a good turn and finish, but if you look at the replay, Ings had four defenders around him, there wasn't a lot of space to put the ball into, certainly not anything behind the man marking ings, so he did all that could be asked, he got the ball into Ing's feet.
Watching the 90 in 90 on the official website Redmond made several telling contributions, the assist for Ings as well as a good chance himself well saved by the keeper and he set up Adams for a similar chance.
Some will only point to when he doesn't produce, but no player makes a telling contribution with every kick not even Danny Ings, however last night Redmond did a good job, he had an assist and but for two good saves that could have been 1 goal and 2 assists.
Redmond has an end product, even playing badly he will create at least one decent chance for someone, but he is the scapegoat so some never want to see the good in him |
I don't think it's fair to call him a scapegoat.
I think he is an honest player and person, he is not a bad player and he always tries his best. But after 5 years at the club and, for me, no marked improvement during that time (it was 2017 when Guardiola was putting his arm around him, and he was picked for England) I think the questions about him are legitimate.
Personally, I think that the fundamental problem is that he slows down our attacks because he more often that not pauses when faced with a defender. That's it. No other complaints about him but I think it's a significant factor in how effective we are.
And I do wonder whether after 5 years and only 20 goals, it might be time for a change for both player and club. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:15 - May 12 with 707 views | SaintNick |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:10 - May 12 by DorsetIan |
I don't think it's fair to call him a scapegoat.
I think he is an honest player and person, he is not a bad player and he always tries his best. But after 5 years at the club and, for me, no marked improvement during that time (it was 2017 when Guardiola was putting his arm around him, and he was picked for England) I think the questions about him are legitimate.
Personally, I think that the fundamental problem is that he slows down our attacks because he more often that not pauses when faced with a defender. That's it. No other complaints about him but I think it's a significant factor in how effective we are.
And I do wonder whether after 5 years and only 20 goals, it might be time for a change for both player and club. |
I think that no matter what Redmond does he will never be accepted by a proportion of our fanbase | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:43 - May 12 with 696 views | DorsetIan |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:15 - May 12 by SaintNick |
I think that no matter what Redmond does he will never be accepted by a proportion of our fanbase |
That's an odd response.
It's suggests some sort of unfair, irrational prejudice against him, whereas I gave you a very specific issue that I think there is with his game. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:55 - May 12 with 690 views | ericofarabia |
For me Armstrong was Motm. Even playing deep, every time he got the ball he made forceful runs forwards into the Palace half.
I thought Redz had a good game, but it is so frustrating when we are on a break, he just kills the move dead by stopping, putting hands on hips and then decides whether to go forwards or more than likely backwards. He wasn't helped by having Stephens as LB. He offers zilch going forwards and every time he received the ball out wide he has to cut back inside to use his right foot. No chance of an overlap, and even our patient play out of defence suffers because it is always going to be passed back in field again.
Minime just doesn't cut it for me, and we should be trying out some of our youngsters with safety assured, instead of keeping him match fit for Liverpool. |  | | |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 12:02 - May 12 with 677 views | DorsetIan |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:55 - May 12 by ericofarabia |
For me Armstrong was Motm. Even playing deep, every time he got the ball he made forceful runs forwards into the Palace half.
I thought Redz had a good game, but it is so frustrating when we are on a break, he just kills the move dead by stopping, putting hands on hips and then decides whether to go forwards or more than likely backwards. He wasn't helped by having Stephens as LB. He offers zilch going forwards and every time he received the ball out wide he has to cut back inside to use his right foot. No chance of an overlap, and even our patient play out of defence suffers because it is always going to be passed back in field again.
Minime just doesn't cut it for me, and we should be trying out some of our youngsters with safety assured, instead of keeping him match fit for Liverpool. |
Exactly my point about Redmond and his 'putting the brakes' on. I'm glad it's not just me that notices it.
It feels like a significant issue to me.
And perhaps you're right - when he had Bertrand bombing along beside him and then overlapping, there was more chance of the forward momentum continuing into the box or to the byline. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 12:19 - May 12 with 664 views | SaintNick |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:43 - May 12 by DorsetIan |
That's an odd response.
It's suggests some sort of unfair, irrational prejudice against him, whereas I gave you a very specific issue that I think there is with his game. |
Apologies I wasnt referring to your detailed analysis Ill reply to that separately, i was generalising that over the years some people cannot ever give him credit where it is due. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 12:33 - May 12 with 653 views | SaintNick |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 11:10 - May 12 by DorsetIan |
I don't think it's fair to call him a scapegoat.
I think he is an honest player and person, he is not a bad player and he always tries his best. But after 5 years at the club and, for me, no marked improvement during that time (it was 2017 when Guardiola was putting his arm around him, and he was picked for England) I think the questions about him are legitimate.
Personally, I think that the fundamental problem is that he slows down our attacks because he more often that not pauses when faced with a defender. That's it. No other complaints about him but I think it's a significant factor in how effective we are.
And I do wonder whether after 5 years and only 20 goals, it might be time for a change for both player and club. |
I think you are unfair to say there is no marked improvement, he is getting stick now, but he has contributed more this season than any other of our wide players with the exception of Armstrong when he was on the flank,
He was good in the 2018/19 season his 3rd season after a poor second and he was ok last season, during his time the club have had a plethora of wide players who have come and some gone, what I think with Redmond is he has an end product, yesterday he showed that but few gave him credit, compare that with Theo Walcott for instance who has plenty of pace and is a lot more direct but seems rarely to get the final ball or shot in.
Yes Redmond is frustrating in that he does check back, but then again he doesnt just hit and hope either.
You say he slows down the attack, yes he might do sometimes, but in other occasions there is no one in the box for him to hit.
Ill give you an example from 2017/18 season, go back and watch our equaliser at Burnley in the last minute.
Redmond wins the ball (bit of a lucky break the ref got in the way ) he runs with it and then lays it to Josh Sims who completely overhits the cross, it looks to be going out for a goalkick when Carrillo doesn't give it up for dead but somehow gets there and knocks it back across goal for Gabbiadini to score.
All the credit goes to Sims and Gabbiadini ( In Gabbiadinis case rightly) but nothing to Redmond and Carrillo.
As I said Redmond is the scapegoat, as has been see on social media although he had a good game last night some just can't bare to acknowledge that.
I agree he needs to go and go to a club that will appreciate him, strange how Hojbjerg after several years here of being slagged off by some suddenly improves at Spurs | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 13:01 - May 12 with 618 views | DorsetIan |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 12:33 - May 12 by SaintNick |
I think you are unfair to say there is no marked improvement, he is getting stick now, but he has contributed more this season than any other of our wide players with the exception of Armstrong when he was on the flank,
He was good in the 2018/19 season his 3rd season after a poor second and he was ok last season, during his time the club have had a plethora of wide players who have come and some gone, what I think with Redmond is he has an end product, yesterday he showed that but few gave him credit, compare that with Theo Walcott for instance who has plenty of pace and is a lot more direct but seems rarely to get the final ball or shot in.
Yes Redmond is frustrating in that he does check back, but then again he doesnt just hit and hope either.
You say he slows down the attack, yes he might do sometimes, but in other occasions there is no one in the box for him to hit.
Ill give you an example from 2017/18 season, go back and watch our equaliser at Burnley in the last minute.
Redmond wins the ball (bit of a lucky break the ref got in the way ) he runs with it and then lays it to Josh Sims who completely overhits the cross, it looks to be going out for a goalkick when Carrillo doesn't give it up for dead but somehow gets there and knocks it back across goal for Gabbiadini to score.
All the credit goes to Sims and Gabbiadini ( In Gabbiadinis case rightly) but nothing to Redmond and Carrillo.
As I said Redmond is the scapegoat, as has been see on social media although he had a good game last night some just can't bare to acknowledge that.
I agree he needs to go and go to a club that will appreciate him, strange how Hojbjerg after several years here of being slagged off by some suddenly improves at Spurs |
Cheers. That's a fair assessment. | |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 14:01 - May 12 with 589 views | Butty101 |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 13:01 - May 12 by DorsetIan |
Cheers. That's a fair assessment. |
is that the same Hjoberg who started brightly at Spurs but is now getting panned.
Wide Player Stats lets be honest they are all pretty poor. If we could some how shift Dnepo and Redmond it would make sense. But please dont re sign Walcott or Mini.
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Armstrong 30 4 5
Redmond 26 2 3
Tella 15 0 0
Djenpo 26 1 0
Mini 8 2 0 |  |
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| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 15:53 - May 12 with 555 views | SaintNick |
| Crystal Palace Game Matchday Thread on 14:01 - May 12 by Butty101 |
is that the same Hjoberg who started brightly at Spurs but is now getting panned.
Wide Player Stats lets be honest they are all pretty poor. If we could some how shift Dnepo and Redmond it would make sense. But please dont re sign Walcott or Mini.
games goals assists
Armstrong 30 4 5
Redmond 26 2 3
Tella 15 0 0
Djenpo 26 1 0
Mini 8 2 0 |
Redmond stats are pretty good on assists if you compare it with the rest of the league, Che Adams who is often derided is 21st in the number of assists with 5 Danny Ings has 4, | |
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